On 29 Jun, 13:23, "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > It's all part of the great British class war LOL
> >http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....daily&storyID=...
>
> Is it 'for real'?
>
> It reads like the sort of ghastly parody you'd find in the centre pages of
> 'Private Eye'.
>
> I wonder who's paying?
>
> You wouldn't pay the wages, or even the storage bill down at the data
> warehouse, on the income from the advertising...
>
> --
> William Black
>
> I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
> Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
> I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
> All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
> Time for tea.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle1998137.ece

"LOTTRY WINNAR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 29 Jun, 13:23, "William Black" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> > It's all part of the great British class war LOL
>> >http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....daily&storyID=...
>>
>> Is it 'for real'?
>>
>> It reads like the sort of ghastly parody you'd find in the centre pages
>> of
>> 'Private Eye'.
>>
>> I wonder who's paying?
>>
>> You wouldn't pay the wages, or even the storage bill down at the data
>> warehouse, on the income from the advertising...
>
> http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle1998137.ece
>

No mention of 'The First Post' there.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:23:36 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>>
>>> It's all part of the great British class war LOL
>>> http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....ily&storyIDu21
>>
>>Is it 'for real'?
>
> It really is.
>
>>
>>It reads like the sort of ghastly parody you'd find in the centre pages of
>>'Private Eye'.
>
> exactly.
>
>>
>>I wonder who's paying?
>>
>>You wouldn't pay the wages, or even the storage bill down at the data
>>warehouse, on the income from the advertising...
>
> It is stuffed with ex-Daily Telegraph reporters. Paid for by Conrad
> Black's
> slush fund? :-)

Doubtful.

Far too left-wing

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:58:45 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:52:57 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>>>
>>>>Almost up to Daily Mail standards.
>>>>
>>>>First Post gives me a laugh most days.
>>>
>>>At least it's honest.
>>
>> Who owns the First Post and is there a paper version of it on sale
>> somewhere?
>
>They're a bit cagey on their home page about who owns them...
>
>Which is odd for a leftish periodical in the UK
>
>A posh address in Cheltenham that is shared by a large number of companies
>and the previous company name was that off a standard 'off the shelf'
>company, and so it's probably a solicitor's office or specialist Company
>Secretary.
>
>A London telephone number.
>
>There are some vague hints about corporate sponsorship.
>
>On the other hand they've got some seriously heavy hitters, including Peter
>Wilby, writing for them, so they're certainly not lightweight. Probably
>very well connected because nobody's making any money with it.
>
>If anyone is interested enough they can spend £5 down at the Company's House
>web site and find out who the directors and share holders are and get a copy
>of last year's accounts...
>
>But the chances are that it's 'the usual (leftish) suspects' trying out a
>new medium or some clever people trying to get very rich...

Sir Peregrine Worsthorne, ex Telegraph is a "leftist"? New Left? :-)
--

Martin

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:15:35 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:23:36 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>>
>>>> It's all part of the great British class war LOL
>>>> http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....ily&storyIDu21
>>>
>>>Is it 'for real'?
>>
>> It really is.
>>
>>>
>>>It reads like the sort of ghastly parody you'd find in the centre pages of
>>>'Private Eye'.
>>
>> exactly.
>>
>>>
>>>I wonder who's paying?
>>>
>>>You wouldn't pay the wages, or even the storage bill down at the data
>>>warehouse, on the income from the advertising...
>>
>> It is stuffed with ex-Daily Telegraph reporters. Paid for by Conrad
>> Black's
>> slush fund? :-)
>
>Doubtful.
>
>Far too left-wing

Maybe it is staffed by extremists, much of what they publish is extreme right
wing too.
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:15:35 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]. ..
>>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:23:36 GMT, "William Black"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected] m...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's all part of the great British class war LOL
>>>>> http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....ily&storyIDu21
>>>>
>>>>Is it 'for real'?
>>>
>>> It really is.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>It reads like the sort of ghastly parody you'd find in the centre pages
>>>>of
>>>>'Private Eye'.
>>>
>>> exactly.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wonder who's paying?
>>>>
>>>>You wouldn't pay the wages, or even the storage bill down at the data
>>>>warehouse, on the income from the advertising...
>>>
>>> It is stuffed with ex-Daily Telegraph reporters. Paid for by Conrad
>>> Black's
>>> slush fund? :-)
>>
>>Doubtful.
>>
>>Far too left-wing
>
> Maybe it is staffed by extremists, much of what they publish is extreme
> right
> wing too.

Could be.

The stuff I read was all left leaning, but I didn't plough through the
archive.

Chances are they're looking for a market, although they've been running for
a couple of years now and should have found one.

That they haven't is indicated by the lack of advertising.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:17:25 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >>It's all part of the great British class war LOL
> >>http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....ily&storyIDu21
> >
> >If it wasn't trying to be serious, I'd have laughed.
>
> I laughed.

I'm laughing all the way. I hope the rain keeps up for Sunday. I've got
the hotline number to report infractions already in my phone. I'm almost
giddy with excitement. I've become embittered by years of abuse by
selfish smokers.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007

On Jun 29, 12:58 pm, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:52:57 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>
> >>>Almost up to Daily Mail standards.
>
> >>>First Post gives me a laugh most days.
>
> >>At least it's honest.
>
> > Who owns the First Post and is there a paper version of it on sale
> > somewhere?
>
> They're a bit cagey on their home page about who owns them...

Yus, I've wondered about them before.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/busin...553119,00.html
has a bit of info.

Kensington High Street might suggest an Associated connection. Or
might not, of course.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:45:51 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:17:25 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >>It's all part of the great British class war LOL
>> >>http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index....ily&storyIDu21
>> >
>> >If it wasn't trying to be serious, I'd have laughed.
>>
>> I laughed.
>
>I'm laughing all the way. I hope the rain keeps up for Sunday. I've got
>the hotline number to report infractions already in my phone. I'm almost
>giddy with excitement. I've become embittered by years of abuse by
>selfish smokers.

:-)

--

Martin

Following up to [email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:

> I've become embittered by years of abuse by
>selfish smokers.

R E L A X, dont get run over* dialing the smoke police :-)

*imagine how annoyed you would be if you ended up crocked by a tobacco
sponsered F1 car. Still if it was driven by His incredibleness Lewis
Hamilton, you would probably get the blame! National hero or what!
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
to email remove clothing.

On 29 Jun, 13:58, "Jan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jan wrote:
> > Jean wrote:
> >> Here is a list of smoke-free restaurants in UK :
> >>http://www.smokefreeworld.com/uk.shtml
>
> > From tomorrow every restaurant will be Non Smoking
>
> Correct my own post:
>
> From Sunday every restaurant will be Non Smoking
>
> Jan

all u need now is some decent food

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jun 29, 12:58 pm, "William Black" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:52:57 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>>
>> >>>Almost up to Daily Mail standards.
>>
>> >>>First Post gives me a laugh most days.
>>
>> >>At least it's honest.
>>
>> > Who owns the First Post and is there a paper version of it on sale
>> > somewhere?
>>
>> They're a bit cagey on their home page about who owns them...
>
> Yus, I've wondered about them before.
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/busin...553119,00.html
> has a bit of info.
>
> Kensington High Street might suggest an Associated connection. Or
> might not, of course.
>

Well whoever's behind it will be getting sick of the outgoings soon.


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:10:04 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected] roups.com...
>> On Jun 29, 12:58 pm, "William Black" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> "Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> > On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:52:57 +0200, Tim C. <[email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Following up to Martin <[email protected]> :
>>>
>>> >>>Almost up to Daily Mail standards.
>>>
>>> >>>First Post gives me a laugh most days.
>>>
>>> >>At least it's honest.
>>>
>>> > Who owns the First Post and is there a paper version of it on sale
>>> > somewhere?
>>>
>>> They're a bit cagey on their home page about who owns them...
>>
>> Yus, I've wondered about them before.
>> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/busin...553119,00.html
>> has a bit of info.
>>
>> Kensington High Street might suggest an Associated connection. Or
>> might not, of course.
>>
>
>Well whoever's behind it will be getting sick of the outgoings soon.

They are certainly fed up with getting up before lunch time to review the Sunday
newspapers.
--

Martin

In article <[email protected]>, William Black
<[email protected]> writes

>But the chances are that it's 'the usual (leftish) suspects' trying out a
>new medium or some clever people trying to get very rich...

I started writing this before I saw the Observer reference posted by
barney, but I was sure it's a pet project by some ex-journalist now
employed in PR who has the time and inclination to dabble in his
previous profession.

At my previous employer, a large PR firm, all staff were circulated with
a monthly newsletter that specifically targeted Ken Livingstone and the
GLA. Fun for the first issue, perhaps, but deeply boring after that.
--
congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http://congokid.com

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
> I'm laughing all the way. I hope the rain keeps up for Sunday. I've got
> the hotline number to report infractions already in my phone. I'm almost
> giddy with excitement. I've become embittered by years of abuse by
> selfish smokers.
>
Actually been a non-smoker for years but tempted to light up again on
July 1st in a knee-jerk reaction against socialist nanny-ism.