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Old Nov 22nd 2004, 12:38 am
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Magda
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:28:36 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :


... Prince Charles is our expert in everything under the sun, especially
... alternative medicines. :-)

Watch me caring about what Big-Eared Charlie has to say !
(along with the rest of the world, that is...)

And oxomemazine does not sound to me as an "alternative medicine"...
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 1:06 am
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Cyrus Afzali
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 06:46:28 -0500, nobody <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"C. Osbourne" wrote:
    >> I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    >> really like to do some sleeping during the flights.
    >Please define "long".
    >Transatlantic flights from east cost USA to europe are too short to get ant
    >decent amount of sleep. From west coast of USA to europe, it starts to be long
    >enough to get a godo few hours of sleep.

More genius responses. How the hell can you argue that 6-1/2 hours
isn't enough time to sleep? IOW, if you're going to be able to sleep
on a flight period, 6-1/2 hours ought to do it.
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 1:11 am
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:38:15 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:28:36 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ... Prince Charles is our expert in everything under the sun, especially
    > ... alternative medicines. :-)
    >Watch me caring about what Big-Eared Charlie has to say !
    >(along with the rest of the world, that is...)

I'm watching :-)

    >And oxomemazine does not sound to me as an "alternative medicine"...

It would to him :-)

It sounds like something you make gravy with, over to Tim Challenger
...

Khang Phuc Pharmacy
... 70. VN. TOPLEXILV. Toplexil. Oxomemazine,
Guaifenesine,paracetamol, natri benzoat.
700. ... TOPLEXILS. Toplexil Sirô. Oxomemazine 0.033g, Guaifenesine
0.666g. 9800. ...
www.thuoctay.com.vn/index.php?nth=cate&c=78 - 69k

Khang Phuc? say no more <nudge> <nudge> <wink> <wink>
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Old Nov 22nd 2004, 1:26 am
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:11:11 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :

... >And oxomemazine does not sound to me as an "alternative medicine"...
...
... It would to him :-)

Are you crazy about your Little Prince Charlie or what ?

... It sounds like something you make gravy with, over to Tim Challenger
... ...
...
... Khang Phuc Pharmacy
... ... 70. VN. TOPLEXILV. Toplexil. Oxomemazine,
... Guaifenesine,paracetamol, natri benzoat.
... 700. ... TOPLEXILS. Toplexil Sirô. Oxomemazine 0.033g, Guaifenesine
... 0.666g. 9800. ...
... www.thuoctay.com.vn/index.php?nth=cate&c=78 - 69k
...
... Khang Phuc? say no more <nudge> <nudge> <wink> <wink>

In what country is that ??

Stop being silly...! Any chemist in France has it. OTC, too.
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 1:37 am
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:26:51 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:11:11 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... >And oxomemazine does not sound to me as an "alternative medicine"...
    > ...
    > ... It would to him :-)
    >Are you crazy about your Little Prince Charlie or what ?

Gawd you really know how to insult a trollop :-)

    > ... It sounds like something you make gravy with, over to Tim Challenger
    > ... ...
    > ...
    > ... Khang Phuc Pharmacy
    > ... ... 70. VN. TOPLEXILV. Toplexil. Oxomemazine,
    > ... Guaifenesine,paracetamol, natri benzoat.
    > ... 700. ... TOPLEXILS. Toplexil Sirô. Oxomemazine 0.033g, Guaifenesine
    > ... 0.666g. 9800. ...
    > ... www.thuoctay.com.vn/index.php?nth=cate&c=78 - 69k
    > ...
    > ... Khang Phuc? say no more <nudge> <nudge> <wink> <wink>
    >In what country is that ??

Thailand?

    >Stop being silly...! Any chemist in France has it. OTC, too.

Is it a French product? Nearly all the google hits were in French.
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Old Nov 22nd 2004, 1:58 am
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"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:14:31 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, "Nik"
    > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so
    > they looked
    > like this :
    > ... Don't fly American airlines as they presumably do not minister
    > "sleeping"
    > ... drugs for free any longer. The ones that comes in bottles are
    > excellent and
    > ... makes your meals more enjoyable as well. But remember to have plenty
    > of
    > ... water go with it. Most of it will evaporate in the thin and dry air in
    > the
    > ... cabin so you will not have to run so often.
    > Cough syrup for children are great to send you to sleep in 10 minutes
    > tops.

Old versions of anti-histamines (over the counter stuff) are supposed to do
the same trick quite well. We've used it once after medical advice.
Unfortunately it had the opposite effect on our son...


Nik.
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 2:28 am
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In news:[email protected],
nobody <[email protected]> typed:

    > "C. Osbourne" wrote:

    >> I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    >> really like to do some sleeping during the flights.
    > Please define "long".
    > Transatlantic flights from east cost USA to europe are too
    > short to
    > get ant decent amount of sleep.


It doesn't matter. Whether it's what you consider a "decent
amount" of sleep or not, the more sleep you can get, the better
off you'll be when you arrive. Some is better than none.

To more the three most important things to help you sleep are

1. Eye covering--a blindfold

2. Earplugs

3. No alcohol.

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Old Nov 22nd 2004, 3:10 am
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:37:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :


... Is it a French product? Nearly all the google hits were in French.

No idea. Once when I, was ill I asked for a cough syrup at a pharmacy, got Toplexil
(because apparently only children have coughs), and found out that a soup spoonful of it
would send me to Morpheus' arms for 12 hours straight - no dreams, either. A dessert
spoonful is a reasonable dose for a flight, IMO.

(very useful to get rid of kids who are being more than a handful, too ! ;))
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 3:19 am
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:10:08 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:37:04 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... Is it a French product? Nearly all the google hits were in French.
    >No idea. Once when I, was ill I asked for a cough syrup at a pharmacy, got Toplexil
    >(because apparently only children have coughs), and found out that a soup spoonful of it
    >would send me to Morpheus' arms for 12 hours straight - no dreams, either. A dessert
    >spoonful is a reasonable dose for a flight, IMO.
    >(very useful to get rid of kids who are being more than a handful, too ! ;))

Seen on BBC TV last night in Atlantic Challenge
Expert: If you are feeling sea sick eat a large spoonful of strawberry
jam.
...
Novice: Does strawberry jam prevent seasickness
Expert: No, but it make it taste better , when it happens

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Old Nov 22nd 2004, 3:36 am
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"C. Osbourne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hi,
    > I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    > really like to do some sleeping during the flights.
    > But somehow, I can't seem to get comfortable enough
    > to get to sleep. I'm 6'3" 280 lbs, and the tiny
    > seats are -very- uncomfortable after a few hours.
    > Can anyone suggest a method or even proper drugs
    > I can use to get to sleep so the flights don't seem
    > so long?
    > Thanks for answering here...

1. Business class. Seriously.
2. Alcohol (in moderation).
3. Noise-cancelling headphones.
4. Asking to be reseated if near babies or small children.
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 3:41 am
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"Rosalie B." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Matti J Kinnunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >I am 6'3" but only 230 lbs (192 cm, 105kg) and I know the
    > >problems you will be facing quite well. There is not much
    > >you can really do. Some small issues will help, though.
    > >
    > >1. Try to get an exit-seat - they have ample space for
    > >your long legs.
    > >2. Always get an aisle-seat. This way you can try to
    > >get your legs in the corridor. And you may leave
    > >your seat whenever you want, if you cannot sleep.
    > I usually get a window seat because I like to lean against the side of
    > the plane. I can't sleep sitting up straight.
    > Don't put anything under the seat in front of you - that will give
    > your legs more room.

But do this by bringing a single carryon, rather than a carryon + personal
item. Do not usurp overhead bin space, forcing someone else to gatecheck
their bag.


    > >3. Use earplugs
    > >4. Use something to cover your eyes
    > >5. Consider having a special neck-supporting pillow
    > >6. Take a few drinks, but not more than, say, 4
    > >with your size
    > >
    > >Anyway, you will be tired when you arrive. You should
    > >have some time to rest after arrival. Definitely
    > >do not schedule any business meetings right
    > >after arrival - only midget-people may do that.
    > I would also say - practice putting yourself to sleep in less than
    > ideal circumstances. I can kind of hypnotize myself to sleep.

Me, too. It's a skill I learned commuting to high school on the NY City
subway system. I find that, on planes, music helps a lot -- a good set of
noise-cancelling headphones and an MP3 player (one of those hard disk ones
that can hold hundreds of hours of music) does the trick for me.

    > In my
    > case, I do it by pretending that I don't want to sleep and
    > concentrating on something mental (with my eyes shut - so no reading,
    > and no listening to some interesting audio) that is very interesting,
    > but that may not work for you - I've been practicing this since I was
    > about 6 years old. I can take a nap on the front seat of my car which
    > has bucket seats (if I'm driving, I park first - if Bob is driving, I
    > lay my head on the top of the seat belt wedging it in between that and
    > the top of the head rest). I can sleep on the cabin sole of our boat
    > by the mast or on the floor of the airport. It does take practice.
    > grandma Rosalie
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 5:05 am
  #27  
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[email protected] wrote:
    > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:26:51 +0100, Magda
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:11:11 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >>electrons, so they looked like this :
    >>... >And oxomemazine does not sound to me as an "alternative medicine"...
    >>...
    >>... It would to him :-)
    >>Are you crazy about your Little Prince Charlie or what ?
    >
    >
    > Gawd you really know how to insult a trollop :-)
    >
    >
    >>... It sounds like something you make gravy with, over to Tim Challenger
    >>... ...
    >>...
    >>... Khang Phuc Pharmacy
    >>... ... 70. VN. TOPLEXILV. Toplexil. Oxomemazine,
    >>... Guaifenesine,paracetamol, natri benzoat.
    >>... 700. ... TOPLEXILS. Toplexil Sirô. Oxomemazine 0.033g, Guaifenesine
    >>... 0.666g. 9800. ...
    >>... www.thuoctay.com.vn/index.php?nth=cate&c=78 - 69k
    >>...
    >>... Khang Phuc? say no more <nudge> <nudge> <wink> <wink>
    >>In what country is that ??
    >
    >
    > Thailand?
    >
    >
    >>Stop being silly...! Any chemist in France has it. OTC, too.
    >
    >
    > Is it a French product? Nearly all the google hits were in French.
Speaking of such things - what do the French call pseudoephedrine?
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 5:15 am
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PTravel wrote:

    > "C. Osbourne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:1Miod.69542$V41.13640@attbi_s52...
    >
    >>Hi,
    >>I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    >>really like to do some sleeping during the flights.
    >>But somehow, I can't seem to get comfortable enough
    >>to get to sleep. I'm 6'3" 280 lbs, and the tiny
    >>seats are -very- uncomfortable after a few hours.
    >>Can anyone suggest a method or even proper drugs
    >>I can use to get to sleep so the flights don't seem
    >>so long?
    >>Thanks for answering here...
    >
    >
    > 1. Business class. Seriously.

You *can't* be serious. Who can afford business class? I just did a
quick random-date comparison of a round trip flight from Toulouse to
Boston, Feb 9 - Mar 12. Economy class is $458, business class is $5198.
Back when Digital Ireland was paying for my flights, it was wonderful
flyingf business of first class, but those days a long over for me, and
probably for anyone here paying their own fares.

    > 2. Alcohol (in moderation).
    > 3. Noise-cancelling headphones.
    > 4. Asking to be reseated if near babies or small children.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 5:18 am
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:05:39 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Ellie C <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :


... Speaking of such things - what do the French call pseudoephedrine?

Where is Earl ?!?
 
Old Nov 22nd 2004, 5:43 am
  #30  
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:05:39 +0100, Ellie C <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:26:51 +0100, Magda
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:11:11 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >>>electrons, so they looked like this :
    >>>... >And oxomemazine does not sound to me as an "alternative medicine"...
    >>>...
    >>>... It would to him :-)
    >>>Are you crazy about your Little Prince Charlie or what ?
    >>
    >>
    >> Gawd you really know how to insult a trollop :-)
    >>
    >>
    >>>... It sounds like something you make gravy with, over to Tim Challenger
    >>>... ...
    >>>...
    >>>... Khang Phuc Pharmacy
    >>>... ... 70. VN. TOPLEXILV. Toplexil. Oxomemazine,
    >>>... Guaifenesine,paracetamol, natri benzoat.
    >>>... 700. ... TOPLEXILS. Toplexil Sirô. Oxomemazine 0.033g, Guaifenesine
    >>>... 0.666g. 9800. ...
    >>>... www.thuoctay.com.vn/index.php?nth=cate&c=78 - 69k
    >>>...
    >>>... Khang Phuc? say no more <nudge> <nudge> <wink> <wink>
    >>>In what country is that ??
    >>
    >>
    >> Thailand?
    >>
    >>
    >>>Stop being silly...! Any chemist in France has it. OTC, too.
    >>
    >>
    >> Is it a French product? Nearly all the google hits were in French.
    >Speaking of such things - what do the French call pseudoephedrine?

from www.google.fr

pseudoéphédrine
Éphédrine/Pseudoephedrine
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Martin
 


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