C. Osbourne

Hi,

I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
really like to do some sleeping during the flights.

But somehow, I can't seem to get comfortable enough
to get to sleep. I'm 6'3" 280 lbs, and the tiny
seats are -very- uncomfortable after a few hours.

Can anyone suggest a method or even proper drugs
I can use to get to sleep so the flights don't seem
so long?

Thanks for answering here...

Nobody

"C. Osbourne" wrote:
    > I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    > really like to do some sleeping during the flights.

Please define "long".

Transatlantic flights from east cost USA to europe are too short to get ant
decent amount of sleep. From west coast of USA to europe, it starts to be long
enough to get a godo few hours of sleep.

Exercise lots during the day. Get up really early (helps set your body clock
as well). By the time you sit in aircraft, you should plan to be very verty
tired from a very long day full of exercise.

You can get a cognac to make you feel more "happy", but don't indulge in
alchool since it will dry you up and that is bad in an aircraft.

If you are not used to sleeping with lights on, get some sleeping goggles.

Can't do much to help you with your size problem though.

Nik

"C. Osbourne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Hi,
    > I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    > really like to do some sleeping during the flights.
    > But somehow, I can't seem to get comfortable enough
    > to get to sleep. I'm 6'3" 280 lbs, and the tiny
    > seats are -very- uncomfortable after a few hours.
    > Can anyone suggest a method or even proper drugs
    > I can use to get to sleep so the flights don't seem
    > so long?
    > Thanks for answering here...

Don't fly American airlines as they presumably do not minister "sleeping"
drugs for free any longer. The ones that comes in bottles are excellent and
makes your meals more enjoyable as well. But remember to have plenty of
water go with it. Most of it will evaporate in the thin and dry air in the
cabin so you will not have to run so often.


Nik

Tess

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"nobody" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "C. Osbourne" wrote:
    > > I'm going on some long flights soon, and would
    > > really like to do some sleeping during the flights.

    > Exercise lots during the day. Get up really early (helps set your body
clock
    > as well). By the time you sit in aircraft, you should plan to be very
verty
    > tired from a very long day full of exercise.

    > You can get a cognac to make you feel more "happy", but don't indulge in
    > alchool since it will dry you up and that is bad in an aircraft.

    > Can't do much to help you with your size problem though.

Okay, having dealt with all that; All good advice. Going back and forth
between Europe and the US quite a lot for a period of time, I'm a little
experienced with that "wanting-to-sleep" thing. I'm not nearly your height,
but I have trouble sleeping if things aren't "just so". I have to be lying
down, on my side, ususally covered up, and yes, I try to sleep with my
teddy. Well, I was flying alone a lot, quite a small girl, and I don't like
to fly transatlantically all alone. Just like that, me.

Well, the first time I was really going to have a problem with this, I
re-routed myself through a less stressfull aeroport. ( Charlotte instead of
Hartsfield en route to England from HSV. ) Went BritAir. I learned how to
get myself a little more comfortable because of this first mess.

All ready to go, all packed up, reached my local aeroport to find that
because of a "broken" wheel on my airplane, I had to go back home ( or be
re-routed through two *terrible* aeroports instead. ) The flight just wasn't
going to go that day. I went back home, and had to unpack some very careful
packing.Then I called BA and raised Hell. It was my wedding I was trying to
make, though I didn't tell them that, only that it was important. The dress
was already there.

BA is great. The next day they got me to Charlotte, and onto Gatwick. I was
upgraded to 1st Class, had a lovely duck and some wine. ( No, I mean I had
some fowl and some vino ). I spilled a little wine on my khakis, and the FA
took my whole outfit, dry-cleaned and ironed it, and it was waiting for me
when I awoke the next morning. I could sleep because they'd given me three
seats in FC; The FA gave me some neat jammies, plenty of pillows, a nice
blankie, and I curled right up with my bear, and slept like in my own bed. I
took a sleeping pill, and a Xanax, and had a bit of wine in me.

The moral to the story is : To call ahead, and find out if your plane is
experiencing a problem,and might be delayed or cancelled. If so, well, go
ahead and show up. If you call it to their attention, I think you might get
a really generous upgrade. Although, that was BA, and I don't think every
airlines might be as agreeable.

Happy travels,

- Tess

Matti J Kinnunen

I am 6'3" but only 230 lbs (192 cm, 105kg) and I know the
problems you will be facing quite well. There is not much
you can really do. Some small issues will help, though.

1. Try to get an exit-seat - they have ample space for
your long legs.
2. Always get an aisle-seat. This way you can try to
get your legs in the corridor. And you may leave
your seat whenever you want, if you cannot sleep.
3. Use earplugs
4. Use something to cover your eyes
5. Consider having a special neck-supporting pillow
6. Take a few drinks, but not more than, say, 4
with your size

Anyway, you will be tired when you arrive. You should
have some time to rest after arrival. Definitely
do not schedule any business meetings right
after arrival - only midget-people may do that.


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Magda

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:14:31 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, "Nik"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
like this :


... Don't fly American airlines as they presumably do not minister "sleeping"
... drugs for free any longer. The ones that comes in bottles are excellent and
... makes your meals more enjoyable as well. But remember to have plenty of
... water go with it. Most of it will evaporate in the thin and dry air in the
... cabin so you will not have to run so often.

Cough syrup for children are great to send you to sleep in 10 minutes tops.

nitram

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:30:00 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:14:31 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, "Nik"
    ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
    >like this :
    > ... Don't fly American airlines as they presumably do not minister "sleeping"
    > ... drugs for free any longer. The ones that comes in bottles are excellent and
    > ... makes your meals more enjoyable as well. But remember to have plenty of
    > ... water go with it. Most of it will evaporate in the thin and dry air in the
    > ... cabin so you will not have to run so often.
    >Cough syrup for children are great to send you to sleep in 10 minutes tops.

Colis Brown's Chlorodyne worked well in the days when it's main
ingredient was opium.
--
Martin

Magda

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:33:43 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :

... On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:30:00 +0100, Magda
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:14:31 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, "Nik"
... ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
... >like this :
... >
... >
... > ... Don't fly American airlines as they presumably do not minister "sleeping"
... > ... drugs for free any longer. The ones that comes in bottles are excellent and
... > ... makes your meals more enjoyable as well. But remember to have plenty of
... > ... water go with it. Most of it will evaporate in the thin and dry air in the
... > ... cabin so you will not have to run so often.
... >
... >Cough syrup for children are great to send you to sleep in 10 minutes tops.
...
... Colis Brown's Chlorodyne worked well in the days when it's main
... ingredient was opium.

In mine it's oxomemazine. No idea what it is, but it works.

nitram

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:43:04 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:33:43 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:30:00 +0100, Magda
    > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ...
    > ... >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:14:31 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, "Nik"
    > ... ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked
    > ... >like this :
    > ... >
    > ... >
    > ... > ... Don't fly American airlines as they presumably do not minister "sleeping"
    > ... > ... drugs for free any longer. The ones that comes in bottles are excellent and
    > ... > ... makes your meals more enjoyable as well. But remember to have plenty of
    > ... > ... water go with it. Most of it will evaporate in the thin and dry air in the
    > ... > ... cabin so you will not have to run so often.
    > ... >
    > ... >Cough syrup for children are great to send you to sleep in 10 minutes tops.
    > ...
    > ... Colis Brown's Chlorodyne worked well in the days when it's main
    > ... ingredient was opium.

seems I missed a few ingredients
http://www.rhpeo.org/ijhp-articles/1998/11/
"If you were a general practitioner in London in 1850, for example,
just about the only things you had in your pharmacopoeia that actually
worked were opium, for treating diarrhoea, rhubarb, for treating
constipation, and J. Collis Brown's Chlorodyne, which contained
morphine, ether, cannabis and treacle and certainly should have had a
generally cheering effect. Of course, we could always give good
advice."

I still remember the cheering effect, AFAIK the formulation was not
changed until the nineteen fifties.

    >In mine it's oxomemazine. No idea what it is, but it works.

Made by oxomorons from oxymorons for oxymorons?
--
Martin

Magda

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:53:37 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :

... seems I missed a few ingredients
... http://www.rhpeo.org/ijhp-articles/1998/11/
... "If you were a general practitioner in London in 1850, for example,
... just about the only things you had in your pharmacopoeia that actually
... worked were opium, for treating diarrhoea, rhubarb, for treating
... constipation, and J. Collis Brown's Chlorodyne, which contained
... morphine, ether, cannabis and treacle and certainly should have had a
... generally cheering effect. Of course, we could always give good
... advice."

Opium for diarrhoea ??
The things I learn in this ng...

... I still remember the cheering effect, AFAIK the formulation was not
... changed until the nineteen fifties.
...
... >
... >In mine it's oxomemazine. No idea what it is, but it works.
...
... Made by oxomorons from oxymorons for oxymorons?

I said "no idea", Mister Trollop... Let's ask Earl.

nitram

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:04:22 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:53:37 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... seems I missed a few ingredients
    > ... http://www.rhpeo.org/ijhp-articles/1998/11/
    > ... "If you were a general practitioner in London in 1850, for example,
    > ... just about the only things you had in your pharmacopoeia that actually
    > ... worked were opium, for treating diarrhoea, rhubarb, for treating
    > ... constipation, and J. Collis Brown's Chlorodyne, which contained
    > ... morphine, ether, cannabis and treacle and certainly should have had a
    > ... generally cheering effect. Of course, we could always give good
    > ... advice."
    >Opium for diarrhoea ??

It constricts the stomach muscles and gives a feeling of well being
...

    >The things I learn in this ng...
    > ... I still remember the cheering effect, AFAIK the formulation was not
    > ... changed until the nineteen fifties.
    > ...
    > ... >
    > ... >In mine it's oxomemazine. No idea what it is, but it works.
    > ...
    > ... Made by oxomorons from oxymorons for oxymorons?
    >I said "no idea", Mister Trollop... Let's ask Earl.

Huh! You can ask Prince Charles himself, if that helps :-)
--
Martin

Magda

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:17:56 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :


... Huh! You can ask Prince Charles himself, if that helps :-)

Earl is our chemistry expert.

Rosalie B .

Matti J Kinnunen <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I am 6'3" but only 230 lbs (192 cm, 105kg) and I know the
    >problems you will be facing quite well. There is not much
    >you can really do. Some small issues will help, though.
    >1. Try to get an exit-seat - they have ample space for
    >your long legs.
    >2. Always get an aisle-seat. This way you can try to
    >get your legs in the corridor. And you may leave
    >your seat whenever you want, if you cannot sleep.

I usually get a window seat because I like to lean against the side of
the plane. I can't sleep sitting up straight.

Don't put anything under the seat in front of you - that will give
your legs more room.

    >3. Use earplugs
    >4. Use something to cover your eyes
    >5. Consider having a special neck-supporting pillow
    >6. Take a few drinks, but not more than, say, 4
    >with your size
    >Anyway, you will be tired when you arrive. You should
    >have some time to rest after arrival. Definitely
    >do not schedule any business meetings right
    >after arrival - only midget-people may do that.

I would also say - practice putting yourself to sleep in less than
ideal circumstances. I can kind of hypnotize myself to sleep. In my
case, I do it by pretending that I don't want to sleep and
concentrating on something mental (with my eyes shut - so no reading,
and no listening to some interesting audio) that is very interesting,
but that may not work for you - I've been practicing this since I was
about 6 years old. I can take a nap on the front seat of my car which
has bucket seats (if I'm driving, I park first - if Bob is driving, I
lay my head on the top of the seat belt wedging it in between that and
the top of the head rest). I can sleep on the cabin sole of our boat
by the mast or on the floor of the airport. It does take practice.



grandma Rosalie

nitram

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:21:20 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:17:56 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    >electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... Huh! You can ask Prince Charles himself, if that helps :-)
    >Earl is our chemistry expert.

Prince Charles is our expert in everything under the sun, especially
alternative medicines. :-)
--
Martin

nitram

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:21:23 GMT, Rosalie B.
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Matti J Kinnunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>I am 6'3" but only 230 lbs (192 cm, 105kg) and I know the
    >>problems you will be facing quite well. There is not much
    >>you can really do. Some small issues will help, though.
    >>1. Try to get an exit-seat - they have ample space for
    >>your long legs.
    >>2. Always get an aisle-seat. This way you can try to
    >>get your legs in the corridor. And you may leave
    >>your seat whenever you want, if you cannot sleep.
    >I usually get a window seat because I like to lean against the side of
    >the plane. I can't sleep sitting up straight.
    >Don't put anything under the seat in front of you - that will give
    >your legs more room.

and if the person in front puts something under the seat kick back
under your seat. Cases sometimes mysteriously make their way from the
front to the back of the planes.

    >>3. Use earplugs
    >>4. Use something to cover your eyes
    >>5. Consider having a special neck-supporting pillow
    >>6. Take a few drinks, but not more than, say, 4
    >>with your size
    >>Anyway, you will be tired when you arrive. You should
    >>have some time to rest after arrival. Definitely
    >>do not schedule any business meetings right
    >>after arrival - only midget-people may do that.
    >I would also say - practice putting yourself to sleep in less than
    >ideal circumstances. I can kind of hypnotize myself to sleep. In my
    >case, I do it by pretending that I don't want to sleep and
    >concentrating on something mental (with my eyes shut - so no reading,
    >and no listening to some interesting audio) that is very interesting,
    >but that may not work for you - I've been practicing this since I was
    >about 6 years old. I can take a nap on the front seat of my car which
    >has bucket seats (if I'm driving, I park first - if Bob is driving, I
    >lay my head on the top of the seat belt wedging it in between that and
    >the top of the head rest). I can sleep on the cabin sole of our boat
    >by the mast

huh anybody deprived of sleep on a boat can do that. I can even manage
it in cold wet clothes.

    > or on the floor of the airport. It does take practice.

If you hypnotise yourself who wakes you up? :-)
--
Martin