Riding first class to avoid pickpockets
Dec 29th 2004 | 11:17 am
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B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote in news:tod5t0ds32hgo1cqfn0brtf7kccckgu9p4@
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> and if I were a thief or pickpocket I would work there
> rather than in second class.
ora sì che ragioni come un italiano :-)
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> and if I were a thief or pickpocket I would work there
> rather than in second class.
ora sì che ragioni come un italiano :-)
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Dec 29th 2004 | 11:17 am
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quiqueg <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xns95CFD31C59DBjkghnkfjdhndfgjkh@
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> ora s? che ragioni come un italiano :-)
tr. "now you start thinking like an italian".
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> ora s? che ragioni come un italiano :-)
tr. "now you start thinking like an italian".
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Dec 29th 2004 | 12:11 pm
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 22:43:30 +0100, "Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Rita" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected].. .
>> No, but some years ago I was riding first class with a Eurail
>> pass and got into a conversation with an American couple who
>> had had their luggage stolen from the train during a
>> station stop. They were both out of the car, eating, at
>> the time.
>How stupid can people be? Who would leave his bags on the train and go out
>to eat?
>Sjoerd
They left their seats to eat in a dining car on the train. They said
they would never do this again -- they would go one at a time. I felt
sorry for them, nice people, but I did wonder why the woman felt it
necessary to bring her expensive jewelry to Europe with her. My
luggage looks pretty cheap and battered so I don't think a thief would
choose mine to steal. All the more reason to dress and travel in
general as "low profile".
>"Rita" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>news:[email protected].. .
>> No, but some years ago I was riding first class with a Eurail
>> pass and got into a conversation with an American couple who
>> had had their luggage stolen from the train during a
>> station stop. They were both out of the car, eating, at
>> the time.
>How stupid can people be? Who would leave his bags on the train and go out
>to eat?
>Sjoerd
They left their seats to eat in a dining car on the train. They said
they would never do this again -- they would go one at a time. I felt
sorry for them, nice people, but I did wonder why the woman felt it
necessary to bring her expensive jewelry to Europe with her. My
luggage looks pretty cheap and battered so I don't think a thief would
choose mine to steal. All the more reason to dress and travel in
general as "low profile".
Dec 29th 2004 | 12:17 pm
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:22:25 -0800, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>John Bermont wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> You fail to acknowledge that there is a legion of professional
>> pickpockets who work the train stations and other public areas in
>> Europe. We have very few of those characters in the USA.
>Really???? Which alternate universe do YOU reside in? I've
>known plenty of careless women who've had wallets stolen
>from their purses. (Including my mother, who was not
>normally considered "careless".) I'm surprised it doesn't
>happen even more often, the number of women who leave an
>unattended purse in a supermarket shopping cart, not only
>just turning their backs "for a minute", but actually
>leaving it while they pursue an item in another aisle!
>(Perhaps the store's camera surveillance system does some
>good, after all.)
My d-i-l had her purse stolen at the LA airport -- it was
in the baby stroller and someone made a big fuss admiring the
baby and voila, the purse was gone. And she was moving between
cities at the time and had her jewelry in her purse for safe
keeping!
She also had a wallet taken from her purse when she put it down
in an Ikea store in Europe while she was at the checkout counter.
I sorta gave up giving advice on avoiding theft at that point:)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>John Bermont wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> You fail to acknowledge that there is a legion of professional
>> pickpockets who work the train stations and other public areas in
>> Europe. We have very few of those characters in the USA.
>Really???? Which alternate universe do YOU reside in? I've
>known plenty of careless women who've had wallets stolen
>from their purses. (Including my mother, who was not
>normally considered "careless".) I'm surprised it doesn't
>happen even more often, the number of women who leave an
>unattended purse in a supermarket shopping cart, not only
>just turning their backs "for a minute", but actually
>leaving it while they pursue an item in another aisle!
>(Perhaps the store's camera surveillance system does some
>good, after all.)
My d-i-l had her purse stolen at the LA airport -- it was
in the baby stroller and someone made a big fuss admiring the
baby and voila, the purse was gone. And she was moving between
cities at the time and had her jewelry in her purse for safe
keeping!
She also had a wallet taken from her purse when she put it down
in an Ikea store in Europe while she was at the checkout counter.
I sorta gave up giving advice on avoiding theft at that point:)
Dec 29th 2004 | 12:19 pm
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:56:18 -0800, "PTRAVEL" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Rita" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> No, but some years ago I was riding first class with a Eurail
>>> pass and got into a conversation with an American couple who
>>> had had their luggage stolen from the train during a
>>> station stop. They were both out of the car, eating, at
>>> the time.
>> How stupid can people be? Who would leave his bags on the train and go out
>> to eat?
>I suspect the OP meant they were in the dining car. However, I agree that
>it's not particularly smart to leave your bags in another car, unattended,
>while a train is in the station.
>> Sjoerd
Yes, that is what I meant. But to be truthful, until I learned of
this incident I had never really considered luggage in an overhead
rack might be stolen if I left the car. And mine probably would not
be, because it neither looks or is expensive.
>>
wrote:
>"Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Rita" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> No, but some years ago I was riding first class with a Eurail
>>> pass and got into a conversation with an American couple who
>>> had had their luggage stolen from the train during a
>>> station stop. They were both out of the car, eating, at
>>> the time.
>> How stupid can people be? Who would leave his bags on the train and go out
>> to eat?
>I suspect the OP meant they were in the dining car. However, I agree that
>it's not particularly smart to leave your bags in another car, unattended,
>while a train is in the station.
>> Sjoerd
Yes, that is what I meant. But to be truthful, until I learned of
this incident I had never really considered luggage in an overhead
rack might be stolen if I left the car. And mine probably would not
be, because it neither looks or is expensive.
>>
Dec 29th 2004 | 12:54 pm
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
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> PTRAVEL <[email protected]> wrote:
> []
>> I suspect the OP meant they were in the dining car. However, I agree
>> that
>> it's not particularly smart to leave your bags in another car,
>> unattended,
>> while a train is in the station.
> Well, dining cars are on the way out nowadays in the UK, but I remember
> many trips, especially between Edinburgh and London, when I would be in
> the dining car for around 30 minutes or so, and not think twice about
> leaving luggage behind- as recently as the late 90s. I wouldn't worry
> about it now, either- but as I said, the dining cars are less common.
Dining cars are still standard on most long-distance lines in Europe -- I
can't recall being on a train without one outside the UK.
> --
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> PTRAVEL <[email protected]> wrote:
> []
>> I suspect the OP meant they were in the dining car. However, I agree
>> that
>> it's not particularly smart to leave your bags in another car,
>> unattended,
>> while a train is in the station.
> Well, dining cars are on the way out nowadays in the UK, but I remember
> many trips, especially between Edinburgh and London, when I would be in
> the dining car for around 30 minutes or so, and not think twice about
> leaving luggage behind- as recently as the late 90s. I wouldn't worry
> about it now, either- but as I said, the dining cars are less common.
Dining cars are still standard on most long-distance lines in Europe -- I
can't recall being on a train without one outside the UK.
> --
> David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Dec 29th 2004 | 12:57 pm
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"JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "PTRAVEL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "PTRAVEL" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Never carry a wallet in a back pocket or inside jacket pocket.
>>> Inside jacket pocket is one of the safest places.
>> Only if it's zippered, or you're wearing a coat over it. It's stunningly
>> easy to pick an inside jacket pocket.
>>>> Never carry a passport (I photocopy the front page of my passport and
>>> carry
>>>> that, and leave my passport in the hotel safe).
>>> Most immigration officers don't accept copies of passports.
>> I don't think any of them do. I didn't mean that copies should be
>> carried while in transit, but only after arrival. Some countries require
>> foreign visitors to have their passports with them at all time, but I'd
>> rather run the risk of being escorted back to my hotel to retrieve my
>> passport from the safe, than deal with the inconvenience of trying to
>> replace a stolen passport while overseas. I don't know how it is for
>> citizens of other countries, but the US consulates don't make it
>> particularly easy.
>> I've found that a passport photocopy is more than adequate for exchanging
>> currency (though ATMs are a better choice), obtaining VAT refund
>> documents, etc.
> Whilst it has nothing to do with first class travel, a friend had her
> handbag stolen whilst on holiday in the USA. She had copied the ID page of
> her UK Passport and the UK Consulate Visa Section in Washington DC
> produced a replacement Passport for her (by mail to Los Angeles) within a
> week of receiving that copy.
Fortunately, I've never had to depend on a US Consulate for assistance
overseas, but I've heard horror stories.
> (Message to Paul - are you not travelling in Southern Europe for New
> Year?)
This year, we're in Copenhagen, though we'll be doing some day trips into
the surrounding environs, including Sweden. We'll finish off in Amsterdam
and then head home.
It's our first time in Scandinavia -- so far, we love it!
> JohnT
>
news:[email protected]...
> "PTRAVEL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Sjoerd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "PTRAVEL" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Never carry a wallet in a back pocket or inside jacket pocket.
>>> Inside jacket pocket is one of the safest places.
>> Only if it's zippered, or you're wearing a coat over it. It's stunningly
>> easy to pick an inside jacket pocket.
>>>> Never carry a passport (I photocopy the front page of my passport and
>>> carry
>>>> that, and leave my passport in the hotel safe).
>>> Most immigration officers don't accept copies of passports.
>> I don't think any of them do. I didn't mean that copies should be
>> carried while in transit, but only after arrival. Some countries require
>> foreign visitors to have their passports with them at all time, but I'd
>> rather run the risk of being escorted back to my hotel to retrieve my
>> passport from the safe, than deal with the inconvenience of trying to
>> replace a stolen passport while overseas. I don't know how it is for
>> citizens of other countries, but the US consulates don't make it
>> particularly easy.
>> I've found that a passport photocopy is more than adequate for exchanging
>> currency (though ATMs are a better choice), obtaining VAT refund
>> documents, etc.
> Whilst it has nothing to do with first class travel, a friend had her
> handbag stolen whilst on holiday in the USA. She had copied the ID page of
> her UK Passport and the UK Consulate Visa Section in Washington DC
> produced a replacement Passport for her (by mail to Los Angeles) within a
> week of receiving that copy.
Fortunately, I've never had to depend on a US Consulate for assistance
overseas, but I've heard horror stories.
> (Message to Paul - are you not travelling in Southern Europe for New
> Year?)
This year, we're in Copenhagen, though we'll be doing some day trips into
the surrounding environs, including Sweden. We'll finish off in Amsterdam
and then head home.
It's our first time in Scandinavia -- so far, we love it!
> JohnT
>
Dec 29th 2004 | 1:14 pm
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
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> Do you usually travel to another country while all your stuff is at the
> hotel?
Often.
Singapore to Malaysia daytrip.
Spain to Gibraltar daytrip.
Finland to Estonia daytrip.
USA to Mexico daytrip.
Hong Kong to Macau daytrip.
Austria to Slovenia daytrip.
Turkey to Greece daytrip.
Just what I remember now.
Sjoerd
<[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:1gpksxf.u0beie1v14mc4N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> Do you usually travel to another country while all your stuff is at the
> hotel?
Often.
Singapore to Malaysia daytrip.
Spain to Gibraltar daytrip.
Finland to Estonia daytrip.
USA to Mexico daytrip.
Hong Kong to Macau daytrip.
Austria to Slovenia daytrip.
Turkey to Greece daytrip.
Just what I remember now.
Sjoerd
Dec 29th 2004 | 2:11 pm
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m.berger wrote:
> Where in Europe??
> Sweden? Norway? Germany? Switzerland?.....?
> Can't imagine
It's a big problem in Prague, some places in Italy, Spain, many train
stations/tourist attractions all over the place...
Organized gangs of gypsies, Albanians and other poor Eastern Europeans,
North Africans and other undesirables prey on unsuspecting tourists.
Additionally these people are *majorily* engaged in auto theft, human
trafficking (prostitutes), narcotics, even tobacco smuggling...
This is one of the results of Europe's generous "refugee" and "immigration"
policies, done under the guise of "humanitarianism". Finally the bleeding
heart governments are realising that untrammeled immigration brings with it
a lot of problems and are clamping down a bit, e.g. the Netherlands and
France...
--
Best
Greg
> Where in Europe??
> Sweden? Norway? Germany? Switzerland?.....?
> Can't imagine
It's a big problem in Prague, some places in Italy, Spain, many train
stations/tourist attractions all over the place...
Organized gangs of gypsies, Albanians and other poor Eastern Europeans,
North Africans and other undesirables prey on unsuspecting tourists.
Additionally these people are *majorily* engaged in auto theft, human
trafficking (prostitutes), narcotics, even tobacco smuggling...
This is one of the results of Europe's generous "refugee" and "immigration"
policies, done under the guise of "humanitarianism". Finally the bleeding
heart governments are realising that untrammeled immigration brings with it
a lot of problems and are clamping down a bit, e.g. the Netherlands and
France...
--
Best
Greg
Dec 29th 2004 | 2:22 pm
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
> John Bermont wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > You fail to acknowledge that there is a legion of professional
> > pickpockets who work the train stations and other public areas in
> > Europe. We have very few of those characters in the USA.
> Really???? Which alternate universe do YOU reside in? I've
> known plenty of careless women who've had wallets stolen
> from their purses. (Including my mother, who was not
> normally considered "careless".) I'm surprised it doesn't
> happen even more often, the number of women who leave an
> unattended purse in a supermarket shopping cart, not only
> just turning their backs "for a minute", but actually
> leaving it while they pursue an item in another aisle!
> (Perhaps the store's camera surveillance system does some
> good, after all.)
He's talking about *organised* gangs of pickpockets that specifically prey
on unsuspecting travellers in tourist areas, Evelyn, not the usual lone
scumbag pickpockets/thieves that one encounters in most any big US city...
The closest to organised theft gangs I've heard of in the States are
organised groups of shoplifters that will go into large stores and boost
items (Marshall Field's here in Chicago cracked such a group here a few
years back). Someone else mentioned South Americans preying on tourists in
NYC. I've never heard of organised pickpocket gangs in any other big US
tourist place, e.g. San Francisco, Orlando, DC, etc. Of course that doesn't
mean that one should let down one's guard :-|
--
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Greg
> John Bermont wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > You fail to acknowledge that there is a legion of professional
> > pickpockets who work the train stations and other public areas in
> > Europe. We have very few of those characters in the USA.
> Really???? Which alternate universe do YOU reside in? I've
> known plenty of careless women who've had wallets stolen
> from their purses. (Including my mother, who was not
> normally considered "careless".) I'm surprised it doesn't
> happen even more often, the number of women who leave an
> unattended purse in a supermarket shopping cart, not only
> just turning their backs "for a minute", but actually
> leaving it while they pursue an item in another aisle!
> (Perhaps the store's camera surveillance system does some
> good, after all.)
He's talking about *organised* gangs of pickpockets that specifically prey
on unsuspecting travellers in tourist areas, Evelyn, not the usual lone
scumbag pickpockets/thieves that one encounters in most any big US city...
The closest to organised theft gangs I've heard of in the States are
organised groups of shoplifters that will go into large stores and boost
items (Marshall Field's here in Chicago cracked such a group here a few
years back). Someone else mentioned South Americans preying on tourists in
NYC. I've never heard of organised pickpocket gangs in any other big US
tourist place, e.g. San Francisco, Orlando, DC, etc. Of course that doesn't
mean that one should let down one's guard :-|
--
Best
Greg
Dec 30th 2004 | 1:20 am
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:54:28 -0800, "PTRAVEL"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dining cars are still standard on most long-distance lines in Europe -- I
>can't recall being on a train without one outside the UK.
I rode from Senigallia to Milan (about 4 and a half hours) this past
Tuesday on an Intercity train. There was not only no dining car, there
was no snack car, there wasn't even the little snack cart that usually
circulates in the train. In fact, there was no potable water on the
entire train. (I asked the conductor.) When we got to Modena, I saw a
vending machine on the track near our carriage and nipped out to buy a
bottle of water. My daughter was having a heart attack back at her
seat; she was sure I was going to miss the departure.
--
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My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Dining cars are still standard on most long-distance lines in Europe -- I
>can't recall being on a train without one outside the UK.
I rode from Senigallia to Milan (about 4 and a half hours) this past
Tuesday on an Intercity train. There was not only no dining car, there
was no snack car, there wasn't even the little snack cart that usually
circulates in the train. In fact, there was no potable water on the
entire train. (I asked the conductor.) When we got to Modena, I saw a
vending machine on the track near our carriage and nipped out to buy a
bottle of water. My daughter was having a heart attack back at her
seat; she was sure I was going to miss the departure.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Dec 30th 2004 | 1:20 am
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:57:01 -0800, "PTRAVEL"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Fortunately, I've never had to depend on a US Consulate for assistance
>overseas, but I've heard horror stories.
A friend of my daughter was able to get a replacement passport (or
some equivalent travel document) at the Rome consulate in a few days.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Fortunately, I've never had to depend on a US Consulate for assistance
>overseas, but I've heard horror stories.
A friend of my daughter was able to get a replacement passport (or
some equivalent travel document) at the Rome consulate in a few days.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Dec 30th 2004 | 1:20 am
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On 30 Dec 2004 00:17:12 GMT, quiqueg <[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote in news:tod5t0ds32hgo1cqfn0brtf7kccckgu9p4@
>4ax.com:
>> and if I were a thief or pickpocket I would work there
>> rather than in second class.
>ora sì che ragioni come un italiano :-)
Marchigiana, pure.
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I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
>B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote in news:tod5t0ds32hgo1cqfn0brtf7kccckgu9p4@
>4ax.com:
>> and if I were a thief or pickpocket I would work there
>> rather than in second class.
>ora sì che ragioni come un italiano :-)
Marchigiana, pure.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Dec 30th 2004 | 2:00 am
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:20:18 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:54:28 -0800, "PTRAVEL"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Dining cars are still standard on most long-distance lines in Europe -- I
>>can't recall being on a train without one outside the UK.
>I rode from Senigallia to Milan (about 4 and a half hours) this past
>Tuesday on an Intercity train. There was not only no dining car, there
>was no snack car, there wasn't even the little snack cart that usually
>circulates in the train. In fact, there was no potable water on the
>entire train. (I asked the conductor.) When we got to Modena, I saw a
>vending machine on the track near our carriage and nipped out to buy a
>bottle of water. My daughter was having a heart attack back at her
>seat; she was sure I was going to miss the departure.
A few years ago I boarded a train in Brussels going to Switzerland.
No dining car, the snack cart was missing and there was no water.
Luckily I had packed some food and water but I sure missed that cup
of hot coffee as I left early in the morning. People were wandering
through the train looking for refreshment, but there was no
explanation forthcoming.
>On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 17:54:28 -0800, "PTRAVEL"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>Dining cars are still standard on most long-distance lines in Europe -- I
>>can't recall being on a train without one outside the UK.
>I rode from Senigallia to Milan (about 4 and a half hours) this past
>Tuesday on an Intercity train. There was not only no dining car, there
>was no snack car, there wasn't even the little snack cart that usually
>circulates in the train. In fact, there was no potable water on the
>entire train. (I asked the conductor.) When we got to Modena, I saw a
>vending machine on the track near our carriage and nipped out to buy a
>bottle of water. My daughter was having a heart attack back at her
>seat; she was sure I was going to miss the departure.
A few years ago I boarded a train in Brussels going to Switzerland.
No dining car, the snack cart was missing and there was no water.
Luckily I had packed some food and water but I sure missed that cup
of hot coffee as I left early in the morning. People were wandering
through the train looking for refreshment, but there was no
explanation forthcoming.
Dec 30th 2004 | 4:45 am
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Sjoerd <[email protected]> wrote:
> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
> <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:1gpksxf.u0beie1v14mc4N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> > Do you usually travel to another country while all your stuff is at the
> > hotel?
>
> Often.
>
> Singapore to Malaysia daytrip.
> Spain to Gibraltar daytrip.
> Finland to Estonia daytrip.
> USA to Mexico daytrip.
> Hong Kong to Macau daytrip.
> Austria to Slovenia daytrip.
> Turkey to Greece daytrip.
Fair enough, though given the amount you travel, it's probably not
'usual' for you either! I've done different country daytrips- I just
haven't taken (or thought I'd need) my passport. The other poster was
referring to what to do with a passport when you _are_ in the same
country though.
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> "chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
> <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:1gpksxf.u0beie1v14mc4N%this_address_is_for_sp [email protected]...
> > Do you usually travel to another country while all your stuff is at the
> > hotel?
>
> Often.
>
> Singapore to Malaysia daytrip.
> Spain to Gibraltar daytrip.
> Finland to Estonia daytrip.
> USA to Mexico daytrip.
> Hong Kong to Macau daytrip.
> Austria to Slovenia daytrip.
> Turkey to Greece daytrip.
Fair enough, though given the amount you travel, it's probably not
'usual' for you either! I've done different country daytrips- I just
haven't taken (or thought I'd need) my passport. The other poster was
referring to what to do with a passport when you _are_ in the same
country though.
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