Jason Dunsmore

i'll be traveling around europe for two weeks on the eurail pass
soon. i'd like to see as much of europe as possible during that
time, so i plan on spending one day in each city i visit (with the
exception of london, where i'll spend two days).

here's a tentative route i mapped out:
http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png

i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long it will
take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route is a
little overly ambitious.) how many cities do you think i'll have time
to see along that route? what do you think is an optimum distance to
travel in two weeks?

jason

Jcoulter

Jason Dunsmore <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png

Assuming that the route in question is the pink line I can only
speculate that you are completely bonkers. When do you plan to get off
of the the train? and neither Rome nor Paris fine because they deserve
more than that. but honestly are you trying to see how many miles you
can run up but then again you are using a map that says it comes
Amsterdam so maybe you are just pulling out collective leg with a little
joke.



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Jcoulter

Jason Dunsmore <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png

To check out the times from place to place get yourself to

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en?
newrequest=yes&protocol=http:&



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Rog

"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> wrote...
    > i'll be traveling around europe for two weeks on the eurail pass
    > soon. i'd like to see as much of europe as possible during that
    > time, so i plan on spending one day in each city i visit (with the
    > exception of london, where i'll spend two days).
    > here's a tentative route i mapped out:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png

Even enlarged, I can only guess at your stops, although it seems
that you're skipping Paris. A better idea would be to simply list
them for us. But I agree with jc. You are nuts or a troll. BTW,
if it matters, my family did about this route in 1970... in 5 weeks.
=R=

Bb

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 18:34:57 GMT, Jason Dunsmore wrote:

    > i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long it will
    > take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route is a
    > little overly ambitious.)

No doubt. Think of European countries like medium-to-large-sized American
states. Its like saying "I'll do Missouri on Monday, Illinois on Tuesday,
Kentucky on Wednesday...", etc.

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"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > i'll be traveling around europe for two weeks on the eurail pass
    > soon. i'd like to see as much of europe as possible during that
    > time, so i plan on spending one day in each city i visit (with the
    > exception of london, where i'll spend two days).
    > here's a tentative route i mapped out:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png
    > i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long it will
    > take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route is a
    > little overly ambitious.) how many cities do you think i'll have time
    > to see along that route? what do you think is an optimum distance to
    > travel in two weeks?
    > jason

Jason Dunsmore

thanks for the replies.

here's a revised route:
http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v5.png

is that more reasonable? i'd like to spend at least a day in
frankfurt, amsterdam, london, edinburgh, and paris. if time allows,
i'll also visit either bern or basel. otherwise, i'll just cut across
to frankfurt.

any idea how long it takes to get from london to edinburgh?

jason

Runge

1 hour by plane

"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email protected]...
    > thanks for the replies.
    > here's a revised route:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v5.png
    > is that more reasonable? i'd like to spend at least a day in
    > frankfurt, amsterdam, london, edinburgh, and paris. if time allows,
    > i'll also visit either bern or basel. otherwise, i'll just cut across
    > to frankfurt.
    > any idea how long it takes to get from london to edinburgh?
    > jason

Ken Blake

In news:[email protected],
Jason Dunsmore <[email protected]> typed:

    > i'll be traveling around europe for two weeks on the eurail
    > pass
    > soon. i'd like to see as much of europe as possible during
    > that
    > time, so i plan on spending one day in each city i visit (with
    > the
    > exception of london, where i'll spend two days).
    > here's a tentative route i mapped out:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png
    > i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long
    > it will
    > take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route
    > is a
    > little overly ambitious.) how many cities do you think i'll
    > have time
    > to see along that route? what do you think is an optimum
    > distance to
    > travel in two weeks?


I haven't looked at your route, but if you're planning on seeing
13 cities in 14 days, a plan like this will guarantee that you
will see as *little* of Europe as possible. What you will mostly
see is the inside of trains and hotel rooms.

Assuming that you are interested in major cities like London,
Rome, and Paris, I wouldn't try to visit more than three in two
weeks time--four tops. You could profitably spend the entire two
weeks, or more, in just one of these cities.

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Your route is not "little overly ambitious"; its extremely overly

Rog

"Jason Dunsmore" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > here's a revised route:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v5.png
    > is that more reasonable? i'd like to spend at least a day in
    > frankfurt, amsterdam, london, edinburgh, and paris. if time
    > allows, i'll also visit either bern or basel. otherwise, i'll just
    > cut across to frankfurt.

This is much more reasonable. Just a couple of ideas: Instead
of crossing at the Hook of Holland, consider going to Brussels
and taking the Eurostar to London. Also, from Bern, I'd head
for Munich, which is more interesting than Frankfurt and from
there, you could do an side trips to Regensburg and Salzburg.
=R=

Gerald

Youve got 2 weeks 14 days!! where's Italy? everybody goes to Moscow &
Petersburg, catch Krakow on the way out. No Spain? Spain is Verry
Hot these days In summer, go to scandinavia, it'll fit.. Why go to
edinburg, you got relatives to look up there? good place for me, to
do museums.


There is a funny little thingie on the top center of your map. 0 to
300 km. 300 km is about 200 miles. For first guess, your loop is
about 5000km, or 3000+ miles. Even with a boost from the TGV(TVG?),
you will be on, or waiting to get on a train for 100+ hours.

think about it.............

The Gerald
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:13 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v5.png

Dave Smith

Jason Dunsmore wrote:

    > i'll be traveling around europe for two weeks on the eurail pass
    > soon. i'd like to see as much of europe as possible during that
    > time, so i plan on spending one day in each city i visit (with the
    > exception of london, where i'll spend two days).
    > here's a tentative route i mapped out:
    > http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v4.png
    > i'm from the US, so i don't have much of a concept of how long it will
    > take to travel that distance in europe. (i'm guessing my route is a
    > little overly ambitious.) how many cities do you think i'll have time
    > to see along that route? what do you think is an optimum distance to
    > travel in two weeks?

About 13 years ago my wife, son and I travelled on a 15 day unlimited
travel Eurail pass. We started off in Paris and went immediately to
Strasbourg, spent two days there. Then we went to Lahr and stayed at a
friend's apartment and made a day trips to Baden Badem, and over night
trip to Rothenburg ob der Tauber and back. Next we went to Switzerland,
stayed on night in Gimmelwald and three days with relatives near Luasanne.
It took about 9 hours to get from Lausanne to Padua where we grabbed a
hotel, then back on the train to Venice. for the evening and back to Padua
for the night. The next day we left midmorning for Nice, arriving around
5 pm. We spent two nights there and then on the TGV to Paris on the last
day of the pass.

Train is a great way to travel Europe. The trains are clean and run on
time (not so much it Italy) . The train stations were well situated and
are usually close to decent hotels and restaurants. There is lots of great
scenery.

Jack Campin - bogus address

    >> any idea how long it takes to get from london to edinburgh?
    > 1 hour by plane

About five hours by plane, when you count travel to the airport at
both ends, checkin time and time waiting at the carousel if you've
checked a bag. The train takes about the same time between the city
centres and is a lot less hassle and more comfortable, but usually
more expensive. I'd only fly to a London airport if I was on my way
to somewhere else (which in fact accounts for every trip I've made
to London in the last ten years).

Was it really necessary to take four friggin megabytes to say where
you're going? My browser can't even display the thing.

If you want to include Edinburgh on a pan-European itinerary it
makes more sense to go through it (to Dublin by plane or Zeebrugge
by the Rosyth ferry) than to make it just a side trip from London.

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On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:37:13 GMT, Jason Dunsmore
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >thanks for the replies.
    >here's a revised route:
    >http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...il-plan-v5.png
    >is that more reasonable? i'd like to spend at least a day in
    >frankfurt, amsterdam, london, edinburgh, and paris. if time allows,
    >i'll also visit either bern or basel. otherwise, i'll just cut across
    >to frankfurt.

It's like this. Here in r.t.e. once or twice a week an American on a
tight, tight supertight schedule wants to 'do' Europe in as little
time as possible so he/she can go home and say they have travelled the
world.

You will hate it, and get NOTHING out of it, except a distaste for any
travel in the future and a hole in your bank account. If you want to
do this, then I feel sorry for you.

Otherwise, go to London, Paris, and Amsterdam for the 2 weeks. There
isn't even enough time there to scratch the surface of those three,
but at least you will have some fun.
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Jason Dunsmore

"Simone" <[email protected]> writes:
    > Now... Even on an ambitious plan, why don't you just stick to London,
    > Edinburgh, Amsterdam and Paris? You still will not be able to see all
    > the major sights in London and Paris. Or, skip Edinburgh and like
    > someone else posted add in Munich (since you seem intent on seeing as
    > many major cities as is possible). If it were me, and those cities were
    > my choices: London, Amsterdam and Paris. Period.

thanks for the recommendations. i've been to munich before, and i've
decided to save the UK for my next trip. i think i'd like to see
frankfurt though.

here's the latest (hopefully final) version of the map:
http://zwei.homelinux.net/~jason/eur...urail-plan.png

i'll go to frankfurt, amsterdam, paris, and bern.

jason