I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling to
and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will be one
per zone and per person ;-))

Greetings from Vienna,
Robert

In article , "Robert Maschek"
says...
    > I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling to
    > and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
    > Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will be one
    > per zone and per person ;-))
    >
what else would it be?

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Yes you will need a separate ticket for the RER trains to Central Paris, as
you are well outside zones 1-3. If you're coming from Charles de Gaulle,
you take the RER train, I think I paid around 8 euros for the trip, it takes
about half an hour to Gare du Nord area.

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David Bennetts
Australia

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"Robert Maschek" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling
to
    > and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
    > Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will be
one
    > per zone and per person ;-))
    > Greetings from Vienna,
    > Robert

"Robert Maschek" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling
to
    > and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
    > Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will be
one
    > per zone and per person ;-))

Why do you think you want a Paris Visite card? It's generally a poor value
compared to Carte Orange or Mobilis, with few exceptions.

To get to Paris from CDG, I recommend Roissybus to Opera and taxi to your
hotel unless you are already familiar with the RER route and stations. The
difference in cost is minimal and the bus/taxi is much more convenient for
visitors, in my opinion. After learning the RER/metro system, you can
decide whether it will be the best option to return to the airport.

I find it rather silly when travelers try to save a little money by trying
to navigate the RER/Metro with a load of luggage, yet pay a porter to take
their bags up to their rooms. If you're going to pay someone to take your
bags - do it on the way to the hotel - not from the hotel lobby to the room.

If you are traveling light with an easily managable amount of baggage, then
the RER/metro doesn't pose any significant inconvenience so long as you
don't mind having to deal with stairways and non-working escalators upon
occasion. Just try to keep your belongings out of the way of the local
commuters on the trains and walking paths on busy routes (and give them room
to pass by you on escalators). For Europeans and others who are familiar
with public transportation this should be obvious, so I only mention it for
the benefit of newbies.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, "J Quick" wrote:

    > I find it rather silly when travelers try to save a little money by trying
    > to navigate the RER/Metro with a load of luggage, yet pay a porter to take
    > their bags up to their rooms.

Anybody who travels with "a load of luggage" and then pays a porter
obviously hasn't been reading this group. ;-)

I always take the RER from Charles-de-Gaulle and don't see what's
complicated about it.

--
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 16:43:28 +0200, "Robert Maschek"
wrote:

    >I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling to
    >and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
    >Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will be one
    >per zone and per person ;-))
    >Greetings from Vienna,
    >Robert

don't buy that visitee card, unless you are going to use all the
"discount" whilst there. buy the carnet tickets or you can even buy a
"normal" pass which work out much cheaper. We made the mistake of
buying visitee first part of the trip until discover the other
options.

"Robert Maschek" a écrit dans le message de
news:[email protected]...
    > I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling
to
    > and from the airport I need an additional ticket.

Yes, since CDG is in zone 5.

    > Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website

No, it's a CDG-Paris ticket, worth about 8 ¤.

JL.

Maybe it's one that you can just use in zone 1?
We have such a situation here in Vienna where you can use particular tickets
in a particulr zone.

Robert
"jeroen" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > In article , "Robert Maschek"
    > says...
    > > I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for travelling
to
    > > and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
    > > Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will be
one
    > > per zone and per person ;-))
    > >
    > what else would it be?
    > --
    > Met vriendelijke groeten/Best regards
    > Jeroen Wijnands
    > http://spam.pagina.nl

Yes that is correct. You can actually just by the ticket in the airport and
also the visitee card. There is a little office down where you catch the
shuttle to the train station.

Santrina
"Robert Maschek" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Maybe it's one that you can just use in zone 1?
    > We have such a situation here in Vienna where you can use particular
tickets
    > in a particulr zone.
    > Robert
    > "jeroen" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article , "Robert Maschek"
    > > says...
    > > > I would like to buy a Paris visitee card for zone 1-3 but for
travelling
    > to
    > > > and from the airport I need an additional ticket.
    > > > Is this a normal single ticket as shown on the website (o.k. it will
be
    > one
    > > > per zone and per person ;-))
    > > >
    > > what else would it be?
    > >
    > > --
    > > Met vriendelijke groeten/Best regards
    > > Jeroen Wijnands
    > > http://spam.pagina.nl

J Quick wrote:

    > Why do you think you want a Paris Visite card? It's generally a poor value
    > compared to Carte Orange or Mobilis, with few exceptions.

Are those easy for tourists to get? I keep hearing rumors that some of
the station agents, upon hearing a word of English or badly-accented
French, will immediately start pushing the Paris Visite, or saying
that the Carte Orange is only for residents, etc.

On the RATP website, there's nothing to indicate that the Carte Orange
and Mobilis are limited to full-time residents, though....

I guess if you're turned down one place, you can go from station to
station until you find a willing agent....

So what's the story?

Charles Hobbs writes:

    > Are those easy for tourists to get? I keep hearing
    > rumors that some of the station agents, upon hearing
    > a word of English or badly-accented French, will
    > immediately start pushing the Paris Visite, or saying
    > that the Carte Orange is only for residents, etc.

I've heard this regularly, but I've never witnessed it. In any case,
they are required to sell you a Carte Orange if that is what you want.

    > On the RATP website, there's nothing to indicate
    > that the Carte Orange and Mobilis are limited to
    > full-time residents, though....

Because they aren't. Anyone can buy them.

    > I guess if you're turned down one place, you can
    > go from station to station until you find a willing
    > agent....

True, although I suspect that unwilling agents--if they exist at
all--are mostly the exceptions to the rule.

--
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The only problem with Carte Orange is that they are valid for week (sunday
to sunday).
This means that I have to buy two because we arrive on saturday and stay
until wednesday. Doesn't realy makes sense for me.

Robert
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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    > Charles Hobbs writes:
    > > Are those easy for tourists to get? I keep hearing
    > > rumors that some of the station agents, upon hearing
    > > a word of English or badly-accented French, will
    > > immediately start pushing the Paris Visite, or saying
    > > that the Carte Orange is only for residents, etc.
    > I've heard this regularly, but I've never witnessed it. In any case,
    > they are required to sell you a Carte Orange if that is what you want.
    > > On the RATP website, there's nothing to indicate
    > > that the Carte Orange and Mobilis are limited to
    > > full-time residents, though....
    > Because they aren't. Anyone can buy them.
    > > I guess if you're turned down one place, you can
    > > go from station to station until you find a willing
    > > agent....
    > True, although I suspect that unwilling agents--if they exist at
    > all--are mostly the exceptions to the rule.
    > --
    > Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.

In , Robert Maschek wrote:
    > The only problem with Carte Orange is that they are valid for week (sunday
    > to sunday).

Or rather, Monday to Sunday.

    > This means that I have to buy two because we arrive on saturday and stay
    > until wednesday. Doesn't realy makes sense for me.

If you don't have to go to CDG, it may be slightly cheaper to buy two
Mobilis tickets for Saturday and Sunday, then a carte orange for the rest of
the week.


--
Herbie J.
Famous Curator

Mxsmanic wrote in message news:...
    > Charles Hobbs writes:
    >
    > > Are those easy for tourists to get? I keep hearing
    > > rumors that some of the station agents, upon hearing
    > > a word of English or badly-accented French, will
    > > immediately start pushing the Paris Visite, or saying
    > > that the Carte Orange is only for residents, etc.
    >
    > I've heard this regularly, but I've never witnessed it. In any case,
    > they are required to sell you a Carte Orange if that is what you want.
    >
    > > On the RATP website, there's nothing to indicate
    > > that the Carte Orange and Mobilis are limited to
    > > full-time residents, though....
    >
    > Because they aren't. Anyone can buy them.
    >
    > > I guess if you're turned down one place, you can
    > > go from station to station until you find a willing
    > > agent....
    >
    > True, although I suspect that unwilling agents--if they exist at
    > all--are mostly the exceptions to the rule.

I had the same questions before I went to Paris at the end of
April...and got some good info from the posters here.

I bought my Carte Orange at the St. Michel station, which was close to
my hotel. I spoke with an agent there to find out the closest place to
have the required photo taken. Although I am sure he could tell by my
accent and bad French that I sure wasn't local, he directed me to the
next stop up the line, Cité, which had photo booths. We had some
tickets left from an earlier carnet so we did the photos (a sheet of 4
cost 4 Euros from the photomat booths) later at the Opera station; but
I returned to St. Michel to buy the Carte Orange. The agent that I
originally spoke to was at a closed window. I caught his eye from the
line I was in, flashed the photos, he smiled, opened his window and
motioned us over. He did address me once in English to make sure which
version of the card I wanted. Another "rude" Parisian...LOL!

Anyhow, they are available to non-Parisians, and, considering the
amount of trips we took that week, a good deal. We would have spent
way more using the 10-ticket carnets. And, as I understand it, the ID
portion can be reused on my next trip....I just need to buy the
coupon.

jml wrote:

    > I bought my Carte Orange at the St. Michel station, which was close to
    > my hotel. I spoke with an agent there to find out the closest place to
    > have the required photo taken. Although I am sure he could tell by my
    > accent and bad French that I sure wasn't local, he directed me to the
    > next stop up the line, Cité, which had photo booths. We had some
    > tickets left from an earlier carnet so we did the photos (a sheet of 4
    > cost 4 Euros from the photomat booths) later at the Opera station; but
    > I returned to St. Michel to buy the Carte Orange. The agent that I
    > originally spoke to was at a closed window. I caught his eye from the
    > line I was in, flashed the photos, he smiled, opened his window and
    > motioned us over. He did address me once in English to make sure which
    > version of the card I wanted. Another "rude" Parisian...LOL!
    > Anyhow, they are available to non-Parisians, and, considering the
    > amount of trips we took that week, a good deal. We would have spent
    > way more using the 10-ticket carnets. And, as I understand it, the ID
    > portion can be reused on my next trip....I just need to buy the
    > coupon.

You are correct. I've had the same carte orange for 3 years now, and have used it for 3 trips to Paris
totaling 8 weeks.

They are an excellent deal; it even pays to get zones 1-5 for your first and last week, because the cost
differential is less than the cost of an RER or Roissybus ride to CDG.

Oh, and I never had an argument from an agent about buying a coupon. All of the agents were civil and
most were actually friendly. Even the time I wanted to exchange a 3 zone for a 4 zone in midweek.

Larry

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Larry Finch

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