mayaymy

Hi, I have made my plan to Central Europe and please comment.

Day 1-2 Vienna
Day 3 Vienna - Salzburg (Rail pass) (EUR33.50)
Day 4 Salzburg
Day 5 Salzburg (Innsbruck) (Rail pass) (EUR27.65 x 2 r/t)
Day 6 Salzburg - Budapest (Rail pass) (EUR64.55)
Day 7 Budapest - (Bratislava) (Rail pass) (approx EUR44.5 r/t)
Day 8 Budapest - (Esztergrom)
Day 9 Budapest - Krakow (night Train) (Rail pass)(EUR 25 by bus)
Day 10 Krakow
Day 11 Krakow - Wieliczka Salt Mine (by tour)
Day 12 Krakow - Auschwitz (by tour)
Day 13 Krakow - Warsaw
Day 14 Warsaw
Day 15 Warsaw - Wroclaw
Day 16 Wroclaw
Day 17 Wroclaw - Prague (Rail pass) (no idea of price)
Day 18 Prague (Cesky Krumlov)
Day 19 Prague (Ceske Budejovice)
Day 20 Prague (Kutuna Hora)
Day 21 Prague
Day 22 Prague - Karlovy Vary
Day 23 Karlovy Vary - Prague (end)

I guess it is not a bad choice for me to buy a European East Pass cost
USD183 (5 days in one month) as train ticket in Austria is expensive
and train in between two countries is not that cheap.

I also found that the price I checked from website is more expensive
than book I checked in Lonely Planet. Like train I checked in Lonely
Planet printed in 2005 March price from Krakow - Warsaw stated 37zl but
website I checked is 77zl ... which one I should believe? Anyone have
idea for me?

Thanks for you guy great help!

Deep Foiled Malls

On 22 May 2005 22:21:04 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Hi, I have made my plan to Central Europe and please comment.
    >Day 1-2 Vienna
    >Day 3 Vienna - Salzburg (Rail pass) (EUR33.50)
    >Day 4 Salzburg
    >Day 5 Salzburg (Innsbruck) (Rail pass) (EUR27.65 x 2 r/t)
    >Day 6 Salzburg - Budapest (Rail pass) (EUR64.55)
    >Day 7 Budapest - (Bratislava) (Rail pass) (approx EUR44.5 r/t)
    >Day 8 Budapest - (Esztergrom)
    >Day 9 Budapest - Krakow (night Train) (Rail pass)(EUR 25 by bus)
    >Day 10 Krakow
    >Day 11 Krakow - Wieliczka Salt Mine (by tour)
    >Day 12 Krakow - Auschwitz (by tour)
    >Day 13 Krakow - Warsaw
    >Day 14 Warsaw
    >Day 15 Warsaw - Wroclaw
    >Day 16 Wroclaw
    >Day 17 Wroclaw - Prague (Rail pass) (no idea of price)
    >Day 18 Prague (Cesky Krumlov)
    >Day 19 Prague (Ceske Budejovice)
    >Day 20 Prague (Kutuna Hora)
    >Day 21 Prague
    >Day 22 Prague - Karlovy Vary
    >Day 23 Karlovy Vary - Prague (end)

I would remove Bratislava and Warsaw from the list, and perhaps
consider not doing Cesky Krumlov as a daytrip, as it's much better in
the evening when all the daytrippers have gone home.
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David Bennetts

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    > Hi, I have made my plan to Central Europe and please comment.
    > Day 1-2 Vienna
    > Day 3 Vienna - Salzburg (Rail pass) (EUR33.50)
    > Day 4 Salzburg
    > Day 5 Salzburg (Innsbruck) (Rail pass) (EUR27.65 x 2 r/t)
    > Day 6 Salzburg - Budapest (Rail pass) (EUR64.55)
    > Day 7 Budapest - (Bratislava) (Rail pass) (approx EUR44.5 r/t)
    > Day 8 Budapest - (Esztergrom)
    > Day 9 Budapest - Krakow (night Train) (Rail pass)(EUR 25 by bus)
    > Day 10 Krakow
    > Day 11 Krakow - Wieliczka Salt Mine (by tour)
    > Day 12 Krakow - Auschwitz (by tour)
    > Day 13 Krakow - Warsaw
    > Day 14 Warsaw
    > Day 15 Warsaw - Wroclaw
    > Day 16 Wroclaw
    > Day 17 Wroclaw - Prague (Rail pass) (no idea of price)
    > Day 18 Prague (Cesky Krumlov)
    > Day 19 Prague (Ceske Budejovice)
    > Day 20 Prague (Kutuna Hora)
    > Day 21 Prague
    > Day 22 Prague - Karlovy Vary
    > Day 23 Karlovy Vary - Prague (end)
    > I guess it is not a bad choice for me to buy a European East Pass cost
    > USD183 (5 days in one month) as train ticket in Austria is expensive
    > and train in between two countries is not that cheap.
    > I also found that the price I checked from website is more expensive
    > than book I checked in Lonely Planet. Like train I checked in Lonely
    > Planet printed in 2005 March price from Krakow - Warsaw stated 37zl but
    > website I checked is 77zl ... which one I should believe? Anyone have
    > idea for me?
    > Thanks for you guy great help!

You may also consider posting your message to misc.transport.rail.europe,
which more specialises in train travel aspects.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia

Tim Challenger

On Mon, 23 May 2005 05:40:54 GMT, Deep Foiled Malls wrote:

    > I would remove Bratislava and Warsaw from the list, and perhaps
    > consider not doing Cesky Krumlov as a daytrip, as it's much better in
    > the evening when all the daytrippers have gone home.

I object to that remark! ;-)

I haven't been for 10 years even thought it's only about an hour's drive
away. There weren't any people there in the evening in those days.

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mayaymy

Thanks for the comment ... not worth to visit Bratislava and Warsaw?

Deep Foiled Malls

On 23 May 2005 02:34:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >Thanks for the comment ... not worth to visit Bratislava and Warsaw?

I have stated before that Bratislava is the least remarkable capital
in Europe, mainly because there are much better things to see in the
region. There is a big castle there, but the rest of the town is not
very exciting. Slovakia becomes much better when you head east.

Warsaw is ok, but you will probably be interested in the old town,
which has basically been completely reconstructed after the war, and a
such is not very old! I guess with an itinerary like that I would be
tempted to spend a few extra days in the other places.
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Tile

there is no big castle in Bratislava as it is a paintings museum nowadays.
there is still a castle in ruins on top of the hill called DEVIN.
"Deep Foiled Malls" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> ha scritto
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    > On 23 May 2005 02:34:06 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    >>Thanks for the comment ... not worth to visit Bratislava and Warsaw?
    > I have stated before that Bratislava is the least remarkable capital
    > in Europe, mainly because there are much better things to see in the
    > region. There is a big castle there, but the rest of the town is not
    > very exciting. Slovakia becomes much better when you head east.
    > Warsaw is ok, but you will probably be interested in the old town,
    > which has basically been completely reconstructed after the war, and a
    > such is not very old! I guess with an itinerary like that I would be
    > tempted to spend a few extra days in the other places.
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Markku Grönroos

"tile" <[email protected]> kirjoitti viestissä
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    > there is no big castle in Bratislava as it is a paintings museum nowadays.

What the heck are you saying here ?

michaelnewport

[email protected] wrote:
    > Hi, I have made my plan to Central Europe and please comment.
    > Day 1-2 Vienna
    > Day 3 Vienna - Salzburg (Rail pass) (EUR33.50)
    > Day 4 Salzburg
    > Day 5 Salzburg (Innsbruck) (Rail pass) (EUR27.65 x 2 r/t)
    > Day 6 Salzburg - Budapest (Rail pass) (EUR64.55)
    > Day 7 Budapest - (Bratislava) (Rail pass) (approx EUR44.5 r/t)
    > Day 8 Budapest - (Esztergrom)
    > Day 9 Budapest - Krakow (night Train) (Rail pass)(EUR 25 by bus)
    > Day 10 Krakow
    > Day 11 Krakow - Wieliczka Salt Mine (by tour)
    > Day 12 Krakow - Auschwitz (by tour)
    > Day 13 Krakow - Warsaw
    > Day 14 Warsaw
    > Day 15 Warsaw - Wroclaw
    > Day 16 Wroclaw
    > Day 17 Wroclaw - Prague (Rail pass) (no idea of price)
    > Day 18 Prague (Cesky Krumlov)
    > Day 19 Prague (Ceske Budejovice)
    > Day 20 Prague (Kutuna Hora)
    > Day 21 Prague
    > Day 22 Prague - Karlovy Vary
    > Day 23 Karlovy Vary - Prague (end)
    > I guess it is not a bad choice for me to buy a European East Pass
cost
    > USD183 (5 days in one month) as train ticket in Austria is expensive
    > and train in between two countries is not that cheap.
    > I also found that the price I checked from website is more expensive
    > than book I checked in Lonely Planet. Like train I checked in Lonely
    > Planet printed in 2005 March price from Krakow - Warsaw stated 37zl
but
    > website I checked is 77zl ... which one I should believe? Anyone have
    > idea for me?
    > Thanks for you guy great help!

I'm guessing but do you like cities ?

Deep Foiled Malls

On Mon, 23 May 2005 17:58:55 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > there is no big castle in Bratislava as it is a paintings museum nowadays.
    >there is still a castle in ruins on top of the hill called DEVIN.

Yes, there is a castle in Bratislava.
http://www.slovakheritage.org/Castles/bratislava.htm

There are also some ruins on the hill called Devin.
http://www.castles.org/castles/Europ...a/slovakia.htm
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Deep Foiled Malls

On 23 May 2005 11:59:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >I'm guessing but do you like cities ?

What would you suggest apart from this?
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Captain Dondo

Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
    > On 23 May 2005 11:59:17 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I'm guessing but do you like cities ?
    >
    >
    > What would you suggest apart from this?

It seems like a lot of traveling, and not much seeing.....

I'd pare it down some so that I have more time to enjoy just a few
places, insted of spending so much time traveling....

I'd skip Ceske Budejovice in favor of Tabor or just another day in Prague...

Igor

    > I also found that the price I checked from website is more expensive
    > than book I checked in Lonely Planet. Like train I checked in Lonely
    > Planet printed in 2005 March price from Krakow - Warsaw stated 37zl but
    > website I checked is 77zl ... which one I should believe? Anyone have
    > idea for me?

85 zl - InterCity (2h45m)
77 zl - Express (2h50m)
43 zl - "fast" train (4,5 hours)

igor

Tim

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    >> Thanks for you guy great help!
    > I'm guessing but do you like cities ?

Surely this is the inevitable consequence of travelling by train.
It hardly makes sense to try and fit in: Cesky Raj, Moravian Karst,
The Tatras and Levoco without a car, unless you really like walking.

You can get to these places by Public Transport, but it's very
time consuming.

tim

Jesper Lauridsen

On 2005-05-23, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Hi, I have made my plan to Central Europe and please comment.
    > Day 1-2 Vienna
    > Day 3 Vienna - Salzburg (Rail pass) (EUR33.50)
    > Day 4 Salzburg
    > Day 5 Salzburg (Innsbruck) (Rail pass) (EUR27.65 x 2 r/t)
    > Day 6 Salzburg - Budapest (Rail pass) (EUR64.55)
    > Day 7 Budapest - (Bratislava) (Rail pass) (approx EUR44.5 r/t)

Your logistics seems odd to me, with a good deal of backtracking. Assuming
you fly into Vienna here's what you could do for the start of your trip:

Day 1 Vienna - Salzburg (it's a travel day anyway) (3 hours)
Day 2 Salzburg
Day 3 Salzburg (Innsbruck) (2x2 hours)
Day 4 Salzburg - Vienna (3 hours)
Day 5 Vienna
Day 6 Vienna - Bratislava (one hour)
Day 7 Bratislava - Budapest (3 hours)

You'll see the same things, but you'll spend less time on trains. Your old
itenary for days 1-7 had ~19 hours of train travel, will the this version
has 14 hours.