CliffB

On Jun 30, 3:55 pm, Undecided <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jim Beaver wrote:
> > Could be, especially post-9/11. They won't let crazy people or rich people
> > or rich crazy people who want/must get off the plane deplane without their
> > baggage. Post 9/11, if the passenger gets off, the baggage has to get off.
> > Applies to coach passengers, too. So I'm just sayin' maybe this isn't all
> > about rich 'tude.
>
> Maybe not. No, probably not, you're right.
>
> And another element. An actor is, so I've heard, encouraged to seek her
> inner child. James Dean was directed to express rage at daddy.

This could also help explain Angelina Voight.......

> In any
> event, what the actor feels inside is weighted much higher by her, and
> by extension or by common usage her audience, than my bladder at Newark.
> And so Ms Cruz has not only the experience, the capacity of expressing
> what she feels, she has every confidence that feeling should matter
> generally, a sense utterly lacking in me, and others in coach class, I'd
> reckon.
>
> Is Ms Cruz Basque, by the way? Better check.
>
> --
> Doubting Timus
> Ubi Dubium Ibi Libertashttp://tremonius.blogspot.com/

-Ant

Magda wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:59:52 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "ant"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they
> looked like this:
>
> ... the freaky skies wrote:
> ... >
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/0...r_n_54345.html
> ... > ... > Penelope Cruz had a panic attack onboard a Continental
> flight from ... > Newark to Barcelona Thursday night. Cruz, who
> appeared to be traveling ... > alone, was in first class and became
> agitated after the plane left the ... > gate. After she spoke with
> the cockpit, the plane returned to the gate ... > and Cruz deplaned.
> A fellow passenger told Huffington Post, "She was ... > freaking out
> and refused to fly." In the process of Cruz deplaning, ... > the
> flight removed all the bags, which then sat in the rain to the ... >
> consternation of fellow passengers, so that the airline could locate
> ... > her luggage. ...
> ... There's a simple explanation. She needed Apple Juice.
>
> She was a HE.

Oh no! Don't tell Tom Cruise that.

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M.L.

> I make a point of never, ever, flying thru O'Hare since I got stuck
> on the tarmac for 4 and 6 hours on two different flights. The first
> one I could buy because it was really stormy. The excuse for the
> second was bad weather on a bright sunny day.

But was it bright and sunny at your *destination*?

-Undecided

CliffB wrote after I wrote:

>> And another element. An actor is, so I've heard, encouraged to seek her
>> inner child. James Dean was directed to express rage at daddy.
>
> This could also help explain Angelina Voight.......

And Nastassja Kinski. I think maybe there is a whole roster of great
actresses reacting against daddy. Name some more.

Let's see if we can make up a rule. Actors who didn't hate their fathers
turned out lousy. Nancy Sinatra. Michael Douglas.


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Ubi Dubium Ibi Libertas
http://tremonius.blogspot.com/

Left Sock

On 30 Jun 2007, "M.L." <[email protected]> posted some
news:[email protected] t:

>> I make a point of never, ever, flying thru O'Hare since I got stuck
>> on the tarmac for 4 and 6 hours on two different flights. The first
>> one I could buy because it was really stormy. The excuse for the
>> second was bad weather on a bright sunny day.
>
> But was it bright and sunny at your *destination*?

It was bright and sunny the entire flight until the sun started going
down. Not a cloud anywhere.

Richard Schultz

In rec.arts.movies.past-films Left Sock <[email protected]> wrote:
: On 30 Jun 2007, "M.L." <[email protected]> posted some
: news:[email protected] t:

:>> I make a point of never, ever, flying thru O'Hare since I got stuck
:>> on the tarmac for 4 and 6 hours on two different flights. The first
:>> one I could buy because it was really stormy. The excuse for the
:>> second was bad weather on a bright sunny day.

:> But was it bright and sunny at your *destination*?

: It was bright and sunny the entire flight until the sun started going
: down. Not a cloud anywhere.

The way the scheduling of airline flights has developed in the generation
since deregulation means that it could be stormy in some city that's not
anywhere near your particular flight path, and because of planes not being
able to take off, a domino effect ensues that causes all of the gates at
your destination to be full.

Or it could be that the bad weather cleared up or passed out of the flight
path during the time of your flight delay. Last year, I was the victim of
such a scenario. After an 11-hour flight from Tel Aviv, my continuing
flight sat on the tarmac at Newark for three hours before it was cancelled
due to "bad weather at the destination." Since there were no seats
available to that destination for two days, the airline company offered to
send us on an eight-hour bus ride. . . but no bus company was willing to
send a bus because of the purported "bad weather." Several of us rented
a car (which might have been an interesting premise for a movie had one
of us turned out to have been a psychopath), drove overnight to the
destination, and except for about 10 minutes of rain in mid-New Jersey,
experienced no bad weather whatsoever.

-----
Richard Schultz [email protected]
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"an optimist is a guy/ that has never had/ much experience"

Richard Schultz

In rec.arts.movies.past-films Jim Beaver <[email protected]> wrote:

: And do you think flight attendants check to see whose credit card the ticket
: was charged to? I'm saying: first class seats to Europe are expensive.

The one time in my life that I've flown first class (from Tel Aviv to Newark),
the ticket cost me less than a coach ticket would have. That was admittedly
thanks to "frequent flyer" miles that made it impossible for me to get a free
coach ticket, but incredibly easy to purchase an upgrade.

In the present instance, the "she freaked out" theory sounds more reasonable
than the "we go back to the gate for first class passengers" theory.
About a decade ago, my aunt and uncle were on a flight that had a stopover
in London. One passenger freaked out and refused to get back on the plane,
at which point they removed *all* of the luggage and made everyone identify
their own -- which is apparently very similar to what happened in the
present instance.

-----
Richard Schultz [email protected]
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."

Richard Schultz

In rec.arts.movies.past-films Jim Beaver <[email protected]> wrote:

: Post 9/11, if the passenger gets off, the baggage has to get off.
: Applies to coach passengers, too. So I'm just sayin' maybe this isn't all
: about rich 'tude.

As I pointed out in my previous post, this was true pre 9/11 as well.

-----
Richard Schultz [email protected]
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Where's the Kaboom? There's supposed to be a big Kaboom!"

MarcoPoloPlayer

CliffB wrote:

> On Jun 30, 3:55 pm, Undecided <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Jim Beaver wrote:
>>
>>>Could be, especially post-9/11. They won't let crazy people or rich people
>>>or rich crazy people who want/must get off the plane deplane without their
>>>baggage. Post 9/11, if the passenger gets off, the baggage has to get off.
>>>Applies to coach passengers, too. So I'm just sayin' maybe this isn't all
>>>about rich 'tude.
>>
>>Maybe not. No, probably not, you're right.
>>
>>And another element. An actor is, so I've heard, encouraged to seek her
>>inner child. James Dean was directed to express rage at daddy.
>
>
> This could also help explain Angelina Voight.......
>

She doesn't use her birth last name anymore.

-Magda

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 11:05:38 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "ant"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... Magda wrote:
... > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:59:52 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "ant"
... > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they
... > looked like this:
... >
... > ... the freaky skies wrote:
... > ... >
... > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/0...r_n_54345.html
... > ... > ... > Penelope Cruz had a panic attack onboard a Continental
... > flight from ... > Newark to Barcelona Thursday night. Cruz, who
... > appeared to be traveling ... > alone, was in first class and became
... > agitated after the plane left the ... > gate. After she spoke with
... > the cockpit, the plane returned to the gate ... > and Cruz deplaned.
... > A fellow passenger told Huffington Post, "She was ... > freaking out
... > and refused to fly." In the process of Cruz deplaning, ... > the
... > flight removed all the bags, which then sat in the rain to the ... >
... > consternation of fellow passengers, so that the airline could locate
... > ... > her luggage. ...
... > ... There's a simple explanation. She needed Apple Juice.
... >
... > She was a HE.
...
... Oh no! Don't tell Tom Cruise that.

You kidding? He would fall in love with her (err... him) all over again! LOL

---
(I thought we were talking about the damn brat who wanted apple juice - and his even
brattier dadddeee...)

Ticket No: WRNM/SMI/5990

On 1 Jul, 09:01, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 11:05:38 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "ant"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Magda wrote:
>
> ... > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:59:52 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "ant"
> ... > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they
> ... > looked like this:
> ... >
> ... > ... the freaky skies wrote:
> ... > ... >
> ... >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/0...loses-contr_n_...
> ... > ... > ... > Penelope Cruz had a panic attack onboard a Continental
> ... > flight from ... > Newark to Barcelona Thursday night. Cruz, who
> ... > appeared to be traveling ... > alone, was in first class and became
> ... > agitated after the plane left the ... > gate. After she spoke with
> ... > the cockpit, the plane returned to the gate ... > and Cruz deplaned.
> ... > A fellow passenger told Huffington Post, "She was ... > freaking out
> ... > and refused to fly." In the process of Cruz deplaning, ... > the
> ... > flight removed all the bags, which then sat in the rain to the ... >
> ... > consternation of fellow passengers, so that the airline could locate
> ... > ... > her luggage. ...
> ... > ... There's a simple explanation. She needed Apple Juice.
> ... >
> ... > She was a HE.
> ...
> ... Oh no! Don't tell Tom Cruise that.
>
> You kidding? He would fall in love with her (err... him) all over again! LOL
>
> ---
> (I thought we were talking about the damn brat who wanted apple juice - and his even
> brattier dadddeee...)

d'oh

M.L.

> Last year, I was
> the victim of such a scenario. After an 11-hour flight from Tel
> Aviv, my continuing flight sat on the tarmac at Newark for three
> hours before it was cancelled due to "bad weather at the
> destination." Since there were no seats available to that
> destination for two days, the airline company offered to send us on
> an eight-hour bus ride. . . but no bus company was willing to send a
> bus because of the purported "bad weather." Several of us rented a
> car (which might have been an interesting premise for a movie had one
> of us turned out to have been a psychopath), drove overnight to the
> destination, and except for about 10 minutes of rain in mid-New
> Jersey, experienced no bad weather whatsoever.

It's possible that the bad weather was far above sea level.

Ravenlynne

Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote:

> the freaky skies wrote:
>
> *PLONK*

Add yourself while you're at it...

I HATE plonk messages.

--
-Gina in Italy

Favorite phrase of the day: Messiah-envy

Ravenlynne

Left Sock wrote:

> On 29 Jun 2007, Flash Bazbo <[email protected]> posted some
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 02:05:02 -0000, whimples <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Continental spokesman Dave Messing had no additional comment.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cruz's publicist Carrie Gordon insisted to Huffington Post all is
> > > fine, saying, "There was no panic attack. The airline let her know
> > > there was going to be a 3 or 4 hour delay due to the storm. She
> > > had work so she figured she'd deplane and fly when the storm
> > > passed."
> > >
> > >
> > > Since when are airlines coming back to the gate to let people out.
> > > Didnt I just read a story about a 25 hour flight from Florida to
> > > NY? I bet those people had the same chance to get off too...
> >
> > You beat me to it! SOP for airlines is to sit on the
> > tarmac...period. Since when do planes return to the gate for the
> > convenience of one passenger?
>
> If you make a scene and threaten the crew they'll let you off. ; )
> Otherwise, you're screwed.

In that case I think you should be arrested.



--
-Gina in Italy

Favorite phrase of the day: Messiah-envy

-RichA

On Jun 29, 7:35 pm, the freaky skies <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/0...loses-contr_n_...
>
> Penelope Cruz Loses Control On Flight
>

Another female latino prima donna. What a surprise. Someone call
Jennifer Lopez, someone is after her tiara.