passport control
May 4th 2003 | 6:40 am
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passport control
When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
stamping?
Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
England?
stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
stamping?
Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
England?
May 4th 2003 | 6:54 am
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"Jenn" skrev i meddelandet
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> When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> stamping?
> Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> England?
Passport control is an obligatory when exiting the Schengen area. Thus
you're likely to face exit and entry checks while travelling the chunnel.
Don't know if there are records made though.
L.P
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> When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> stamping?
> Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> England?
Passport control is an obligatory when exiting the Schengen area. Thus
you're likely to face exit and entry checks while travelling the chunnel.
Don't know if there are records made though.
L.P
May 4th 2003 | 9:45 am
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Re: passport control
On Sun, 04 May 2003 18:40:38 GMT, Jenn wrote
> When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are
> seldom stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the
> chunnel to London will we be stopped on entry to London for
> passport control and passport stamping?
Yes, but the way it's done depends, I think, on which service you're
using -- passenger train or car shuttle.
When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
carry your passport with you. (For all I know, though, it's now done
at the point of ticketing/checking-in.)
On the car shuttle the passport check was done as on the ferries -- the
check-in staff verified it when they checked us in and issued boarding
passes as we drove in.
--
Cheers,
Harvey
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> When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are
> seldom stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the
> chunnel to London will we be stopped on entry to London for
> passport control and passport stamping?
Yes, but the way it's done depends, I think, on which service you're
using -- passenger train or car shuttle.
When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
carry your passport with you. (For all I know, though, it's now done
at the point of ticketing/checking-in.)
On the car shuttle the passport check was done as on the ferries -- the
check-in staff verified it when they checked us in and issued boarding
passes as we drove in.
--
Cheers,
Harvey
For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.
May 4th 2003 | 10:11 am
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Re: passport control
"Jenn" wrote in message
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> When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> stamping?
> Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> England?
For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a British
immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped and
you'll have to fill in an immigration card with personal details. If you are
using the Eurotunnel shuttle service from Calais, checks will be made after
you go through the tollbooth, again by a British official, with stamping and
card filling for non-EU passports. So a record will be made by UK for non-EU
citizens entering the country.
Alec
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> When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> stamping?
> Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> England?
For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a British
immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped and
you'll have to fill in an immigration card with personal details. If you are
using the Eurotunnel shuttle service from Calais, checks will be made after
you go through the tollbooth, again by a British official, with stamping and
card filling for non-EU passports. So a record will be made by UK for non-EU
citizens entering the country.
Alec
May 4th 2003 | 12:55 pm
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On Sun, 04 May 2003 21:45:22 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
wrote:
>When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
>were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
>they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
>carry your passport with you.
I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering, and
we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way back, our
guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this was a NON-STOP
TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train stopped, the doors opened,
and one of our members (these are Mensans, remember, and therefore
'putatively intelligent') stepped onto the platform for a quick smoke.
No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him and
the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform with his
cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's license. His
jacket and passport went to London without him.
A few minutes later HM Customs and Immigration passed through the cars
stamping passports as they went. The train had stopped only long
enough to let them on.
wrote:
>When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
>were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
>they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
>carry your passport with you.
I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering, and
we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way back, our
guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this was a NON-STOP
TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train stopped, the doors opened,
and one of our members (these are Mensans, remember, and therefore
'putatively intelligent') stepped onto the platform for a quick smoke.
No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him and
the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform with his
cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's license. His
jacket and passport went to London without him.
A few minutes later HM Customs and Immigration passed through the cars
stamping passports as they went. The train had stopped only long
enough to let them on.
May 4th 2003 | 9:18 pm
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 00:55:14 GMT, Frank Clarke wrote
-snip-
> I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering,
> and we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way
> back, our guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this
> was a NON-STOP TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train
> stopped, the doors opened, and one of our members (these are
> Mensans, remember, and therefore 'putatively intelligent') stepped
> onto the platform for a quick smoke.
>
> No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him
> and the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform
> with his cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's
> license. His jacket and passport went to London without him.
Do you know if he got angry, or did he realise it served him bloody
right?
)
--
Cheers,
Harvey
For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.
-snip-
> I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering,
> and we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way
> back, our guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this
> was a NON-STOP TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train
> stopped, the doors opened, and one of our members (these are
> Mensans, remember, and therefore 'putatively intelligent') stepped
> onto the platform for a quick smoke.
>
> No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him
> and the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform
> with his cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's
> license. His jacket and passport went to London without him.
Do you know if he got angry, or did he realise it served him bloody
right?
)--
Cheers,
Harvey
For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.
May 5th 2003 | 4:13 am
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In article ,
"Alec" wrote:
> "Jenn" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> > stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> > will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> > stamping?
> >
> > Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> > England?
> >
> >
> For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a British
> immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped and
> you'll have to fill in an immigration card with personal details. If you are
> using the Eurotunnel shuttle service from Calais, checks will be made after
> you go through the tollbooth, again by a British official, with stamping and
> card filling for non-EU passports. So a record will be made by UK for non-EU
> citizens entering the country.
>
> Alec
>
>
>
>
is there a record also filed with Schengen?
"Alec" wrote:
> "Jenn" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> > stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> > will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> > stamping?
> >
> > Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> > England?
> >
> >
> For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a British
> immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped and
> you'll have to fill in an immigration card with personal details. If you are
> using the Eurotunnel shuttle service from Calais, checks will be made after
> you go through the tollbooth, again by a British official, with stamping and
> card filling for non-EU passports. So a record will be made by UK for non-EU
> citizens entering the country.
>
> Alec
>
>
>
>
is there a record also filed with Schengen?
May 5th 2003 | 4:14 am
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In article ,
Frank Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2003 21:45:22 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
> wrote:
>
>
> >When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
> >were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
> >they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
> >carry your passport with you.
>
> I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering, and
> we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way back, our
> guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this was a NON-STOP
> TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train stopped, the doors opened,
> and one of our members (these are Mensans, remember, and therefore
> 'putatively intelligent') stepped onto the platform for a quick smoke.
>
> No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him and
> the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform with his
> cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's license. His
> jacket and passport went to London without him.
>
> A few minutes later HM Customs and Immigration passed through the cars
> stamping passports as they went. The train had stopped only long
> enough to let them on.
>
when eurostar trains close the doors that is it -- I almost got left in
Naples when I stepped off to stamp my ticket [I was unclear about
whether it was necessary as with regular trains]
Frank Clarke wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2003 21:45:22 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
> wrote:
>
>
> >When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
> >were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
> >they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
> >carry your passport with you.
>
> I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering, and
> we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way back, our
> guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this was a NON-STOP
> TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train stopped, the doors opened,
> and one of our members (these are Mensans, remember, and therefore
> 'putatively intelligent') stepped onto the platform for a quick smoke.
>
> No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him and
> the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform with his
> cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's license. His
> jacket and passport went to London without him.
>
> A few minutes later HM Customs and Immigration passed through the cars
> stamping passports as they went. The train had stopped only long
> enough to let them on.
>
when eurostar trains close the doors that is it -- I almost got left in
Naples when I stepped off to stamp my ticket [I was unclear about
whether it was necessary as with regular trains]
May 5th 2003 | 4:18 am
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In article ,
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:
> "Jenn" skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
> > When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> > stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> > will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> > stamping?
> >
> > Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> > England?
> Passport control is an obligatory when exiting the Schengen area. Thus
> you're likely to face exit and entry checks while travelling the chunnel.
> Don't know if there are records made though.
I don;t know if it is mandatory. I certainly didn't see any passport
controls on the train from G-d-N to Waterloo (back in '99 anyway).
Maybe there was a very cursory check in G-d_N but I didn't receive a
passport stamp.
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:
> "Jenn" skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
> > When traveling from one country to another in Europe, we are seldom
> > stopped for passport checks etc -- when we go on the chunnel to London
> > will we be stopped on entry to London for passport control and passport
> > stamping?
> >
> > Is some sort of record made of exiting Schengen countries and going into
> > England?
> Passport control is an obligatory when exiting the Schengen area. Thus
> you're likely to face exit and entry checks while travelling the chunnel.
> Don't know if there are records made though.
I don;t know if it is mandatory. I certainly didn't see any passport
controls on the train from G-d-N to Waterloo (back in '99 anyway).
Maybe there was a very cursory check in G-d_N but I didn't receive a
passport stamp.
May 5th 2003 | 4:19 am
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In article ,
"Alec" wrote:
> For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a British
> immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped and
Has this changed in the las 4 years? The last time I travelled Eurostar
in 1999, British entry procedures were inconvieniently at Waterloo.,
"Alec" wrote:
> For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a British
> immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped and
Has this changed in the las 4 years? The last time I travelled Eurostar
in 1999, British entry procedures were inconvieniently at Waterloo.,
May 5th 2003 | 6:04 am
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"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message
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> In article ,
> "Alec" wrote:
> > For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a
British
> > immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped
and
> Has this changed in the las 4 years? The last time I travelled Eurostar
> in 1999, British entry procedures were inconvieniently at Waterloo.
Yes, since around summer 2001, to prevent illegal immigrants entering UK on
Eurostar. Before then many could board Eurostar train in Paris with a
ticket, say, to Lille, and then continue on to London without any checks.
Alec
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> In article ,
> "Alec" wrote:
> > For Eurostar passenger trains, your passport will be checked by a
British
> > immigration officer at Gare du Nord, and non-EU passport will be stamped
and
> Has this changed in the las 4 years? The last time I travelled Eurostar
> in 1999, British entry procedures were inconvieniently at Waterloo.
Yes, since around summer 2001, to prevent illegal immigrants entering UK on
Eurostar. Before then many could board Eurostar train in Paris with a
ticket, say, to Lille, and then continue on to London without any checks.
Alec
May 5th 2003 | 6:48 am
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"Not the Karl Orff" skrev i meddelandet
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> In article ,
> "Lennart Petersen" wrote:
> > Passport control is an obligatory when exiting the Schengen area. Thus
> > you're likely to face exit and entry checks while travelling the
chunnel.
> > Don't know if there are records made though.
> I don;t know if it is mandatory. I certainly didn't see any passport
> controls on the train from G-d-N to Waterloo (back in '99 anyway).
> Maybe there was a very cursory check in G-d_N but I didn't receive a
> passport stamp.
Yes a passport control for exit is mandatory due to the Schengen treaty, but
all countries aren't doing it to the book.
news:[email protected]...
> In article ,
> "Lennart Petersen" wrote:
> > Passport control is an obligatory when exiting the Schengen area. Thus
> > you're likely to face exit and entry checks while travelling the
chunnel.
> > Don't know if there are records made though.
> I don;t know if it is mandatory. I certainly didn't see any passport
> controls on the train from G-d-N to Waterloo (back in '99 anyway).
> Maybe there was a very cursory check in G-d_N but I didn't receive a
> passport stamp.
Yes a passport control for exit is mandatory due to the Schengen treaty, but
all countries aren't doing it to the book.
May 5th 2003 | 9:01 am
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On Mon, 05 May 2003 21:37:10 GMT, "Lennart Petersen"
wrote:
>[...] As I can see some
>Eurostar services are advertised to take passengers at least between
>Paris-Calais Frethun.
I went to http://www.eurostar.co.uk and tried to find a schedule
for Paris->Calais-F and there were none; the only intermediate
station option was Ashford. Similarly, http://www.sncf.com
doesn't recognize a Eurostar stop at C-F from Paris, and
http://bahn.hafas.de shows only TGV service, not Eurostar.
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wrote:
>[...] As I can see some
>Eurostar services are advertised to take passengers at least between
>Paris-Calais Frethun.
I went to http://www.eurostar.co.uk and tried to find a schedule
for Paris->Calais-F and there were none; the only intermediate
station option was Ashford. Similarly, http://www.sncf.com
doesn't recognize a Eurostar stop at C-F from Paris, and
http://bahn.hafas.de shows only TGV service, not Eurostar.
************* DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
May 5th 2003 | 9:03 am
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"Jenn" wrote in message
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> In article ,
> Frank Clarke wrote:
> > On Sun, 04 May 2003 21:45:22 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
> > >were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
> > >they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
> > >carry your passport with you.
> >
> > I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering, and
> > we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way back, our
> > guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this was a NON-STOP
> > TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train stopped, the doors opened,
> > and one of our members (these are Mensans, remember, and therefore
> > 'putatively intelligent') stepped onto the platform for a quick smoke.
> >
> > No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him and
> > the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform with his
> > cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's license. His
> > jacket and passport went to London without him.
> >
> > A few minutes later HM Customs and Immigration passed through the cars
> > stamping passports as they went. The train had stopped only long
> > enough to let them on.
> >
> when eurostar trains close the doors that is it -- I almost got left in
> Naples when I stepped off to stamp my ticket [I was unclear about
> whether it was necessary as with regular trains]
Italian Eurostar trains have nothing to do with cross-channel Eurostar, but
I do take your point.
BTW all passports are now checked before boarding at Gare du Nord, with a
possible spot-check on the train, to stop illegal immigrants from travelling
to UK with a ticket to intermediate stations.
Alec
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> In article ,
> Frank Clarke wrote:
> > On Sun, 04 May 2003 21:45:22 GMT, Harvey Van Sickle
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >When we went on the passenger train a couple of years ago, passports
> > >were checked by officials who passed through the carriages -- so if
> > >they haven't come through and you're heading to the loo or buffet,
> > >carry your passport with you.
> >
> > I was in London in '96 for the Mensa 50th Anniversary Gathering, and
> > we took Eurostar over to Paris for a day-trip. On the way back, our
> > guides informed us --in no uncertain terms-- that this was a NON-STOP
> > TRAIN. Yet, when we got to Lille the train stopped, the doors opened,
> > and one of our members (these are Mensans, remember, and therefore
> > 'putatively intelligent') stepped onto the platform for a quick smoke.
> >
> > No sooner had he exited the train than the doors closed behind him and
> > the train departed for London... leaving him on the platform with his
> > cigarettes and a lighter, and possibly his driver's license. His
> > jacket and passport went to London without him.
> >
> > A few minutes later HM Customs and Immigration passed through the cars
> > stamping passports as they went. The train had stopped only long
> > enough to let them on.
> >
> when eurostar trains close the doors that is it -- I almost got left in
> Naples when I stepped off to stamp my ticket [I was unclear about
> whether it was necessary as with regular trains]
Italian Eurostar trains have nothing to do with cross-channel Eurostar, but
I do take your point.
BTW all passports are now checked before boarding at Gare du Nord, with a
possible spot-check on the train, to stop illegal immigrants from travelling
to UK with a ticket to intermediate stations.
Alec
May 5th 2003 | 9:37 am
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"Alec" skrev i meddelandet
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> Italian Eurostar trains have nothing to do with cross-channel Eurostar,
but
> I do take your point.
> BTW all passports are now checked before boarding at Gare du Nord, with a
> possible spot-check on the train, to stop illegal immigrants from
travelling
> to UK with a ticket to intermediate stations.
> Alec
So you need a passport to travel domestic inside France ? As I can see some
Eurostar services are advertised to take passengers at least between
Paris-Calais Frethun.
L.P
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> Italian Eurostar trains have nothing to do with cross-channel Eurostar,
but
> I do take your point.
> BTW all passports are now checked before boarding at Gare du Nord, with a
> possible spot-check on the train, to stop illegal immigrants from
travelling
> to UK with a ticket to intermediate stations.
> Alec
So you need a passport to travel domestic inside France ? As I can see some
Eurostar services are advertised to take passengers at least between
Paris-Calais Frethun.
L.P
