On 2005-03-22 21:32:15 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]> said:

    > Anthony wrote:
    >
    >> We are going from Atlanta to Nice via Paris CDG, where we have a rather
    >> short time to get our connection. We arrive in terminal 2C and depart
    >> from 2F. Does anyone here know whether it's best to go from one to the
    >> other on foot, or is there a bus one should take? TIA
    >>
    > One piece of advice, if you do try walking, study a map of the
    > terminals carefully before you set off. The ordering of the letters
    > defies all logic.
    > Alternatively, take the bus and let the driver figure it out.
    >
    > T.

Then you have to figure out the logic of the bus numbering. (Clue:
there isn't any)

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On 2005-03-23 15:54:22 +0100, Zinzan <[email protected]> said:

    > Le 23 Mar 2005 14:17:36 +0000, Des Small <[email protected]> a
    > écrit :
    >
    >> On peut bien lire les panneaux et penser quand même qu'ils ne sont pas
    >> très utiles, n'est-ce pas ?
    >
    > Les panneaux dans un aéroport sont là pour renseigner les voyageurs.
    > On peut tout à fait critiquer les informations qui ne sont qu'en une
    > seule langue, mais pour ce qui est de leur utilité, je fais confiance
    > à l'aéroport qui a réfléchi à la signalétique.

Then your confidence is misplaced. Perhaps they got the signs done by
the same guy who designed gate 2E ??

Another place where the signage is bad is Gare du Nord - a station
which is the point of arrival of vast numbers of foreigners who then
have to negotiate a nightmare of confusing and conflicting information
in order to commence their journey inside Paris.

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The Rev Gaston <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On 2005-03-22 16:01:19 +0100, Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> said:
    >>
    >> Agreed. The internal signage is terrible. Perhaps the worst I know.
    >Worse than Heathrow?

I think CDG is worse, but I won't go to the wall on this one.

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Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > ... Des Small <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ...
    > ... >Zinzan <[email protected]> writes:
    > ... >
    > ... >> Le Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:47:39 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
    > ... >> <[email protected]> a écrit :
    > ... >>
    > ... >> >I can read French, and I still don't find helpful signs in CDG.
    > ... >>
    > ... >> C'est pourtant d'une simplicité extreme. Il y a des panneaux partout
    > ... >> en langue française, si vous savez lire le français vous n'avez aucune
    > ... >> excuse.
    > ... >
    > ... >On peut bien lire les panneaux et penser quand même qu'ils ne sont pas
    > ... >très utiles, n'est-ce pas ?
    >Il se peut qu'il puisse *lire*, mais sans comprendre ce qu'il lit ! Cela arrive...
Yeah. That's just what I mean by being able to read French. And I
didn't understand what your wrote.

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:53:37 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:

    |The Rev Gaston <[email protected]> wrote:
    |
    |>On 2005-03-22 16:01:19 +0100, Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> said:
    |>
    |>>
    |>> Agreed. The internal signage is terrible. Perhaps the worst I know.
    |>
    |>Worse than Heathrow?
    |
    |I think CDG is worse, but I won't go to the wall on this one.

We flew Aer Lingus from CDG to Dublin. We were directed to a lounge
area when we asked at the terminal entry point - but we simply
couldn't find the Aer Lingus gate. No signs, nothing. Eventually, I
wandered the area and gradually other passengers searching for Aer
Lingus joined me. At least I'd allowed plenty of time.

We finally found it hidden around a corner in a cul-de-sac. In fact,
we had been looking at the clerk's back through a glass wall for a
while before we realised it from Aer Lingus logos on documents on the
desk.

Later, before boarding, an Aer Lingus spokesman came over and
apologised and said that the Terminal Authorities would not allow them
to put up signage for directions. We offered him some strongly put
constructive suggestions about using some staff members to direct
people from the other lounge, and some thoughts on where to put signs
and other articles. He seemed to think they wouldn't fit in the place
we suggested.




Cheers, Alan, Australia

Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:

    > He seemed to think they wouldn't fit in the place
    > we suggested.

Well, they need all the space they need to support the roof nowadays...

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Anthony <[email protected]> wrote:

    > To all who responded. Most kind. I guess we'll take the bus and hope for
    > the best.

The bus you must take is a white and yellow ADP bus. Lines 2 or 5 (but
better ask the drvier anyhow!)

Avoid walking since 2 C and 2 F are not closely connected, you have to
take an underpass between them


<http://www.adp.fr> should be helpful

Cheers

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ABC <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Its the worst and most confusing airport terminal in the world.
    > Its like being in a terrible nightmare where you have to get somewhere
    > urgently, but you are trapped in a building without exits. In fact it
    > reminds me a bit of the film 'Cube'.

It was built in the 70s when some "new" architecture was praised... it
took badly woth the time. However it is being heavily overhauled (it
gets less and less frequented with the time)...

Cheers

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:43 +0100, Zinzan <[email protected]> wrote:
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    >Le Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:45:07 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
    ><[email protected]> a écrit :
    >>I didn't say that I don't find signs there; I said that I don't find
    >>helpful ones.
    >It's a piece of cake, Gate X on your left, Gate Y on your right. Halls
    >indicated everywhere on signs. Concretly, what's the problem ?

I was there in '01 for the very first time -- flew into CDG-1 and wanted to take
the Metro into downtown. The Metro seems to service CDG-2 but not CDG-1. From
CDG-1 there were no signs (I could interpret) to tell me how to get to CDG-2.

Now, possibly CDG-2 has some other name and it's referred to by that other name
on signs, but for someone newly-arrived with no experience of what's where, it
was a very frustrating experience. Eventually we found the shuttle bus to take
us over to CDG-2 and all was well, but it took a long time.


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Le Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:52:38 +0100, The Rev Gaston <[email protected]> a
écrit :

    >Then your confidence is misplaced. Perhaps they got the signs done by
    >the same guy who designed gate 2E ??

As far as I know, an architect do not design signs.

    >Another place where the signage is bad is Gare du Nord - a station
    >which is the point of arrival of vast numbers of foreigners who then
    >have to negotiate a nightmare of confusing and conflicting information
    >in order to commence their journey inside Paris.

I can understand the confusion at Gare du Nord if you need to take the
RER. But as for international trains, I think that Thalys or Eurostars
are very easy to find.

Le Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:39:52 GMT, Frank Clarke
<[email protected]> a écrit :

    >I was there in '01 for the very first time -- flew into CDG-1 and wanted to take
    >the Metro into downtown. The Metro seems to service CDG-2 but not CDG-1. From
    >CDG-1 there were no signs (I could interpret) to tell me how to get to CDG-2.

The RER should go to both.

    >Now, possibly CDG-2 has some other name and it's referred to by that other name
    >on signs, but for someone newly-arrived with no experience of what's where, it
    >was a very frustrating experience. Eventually we found the shuttle bus to take
    >us over to CDG-2 and all was well, but it took a long time.

Never experienced the interconnection between CDG-1 and 2 so I can't
comment.

Unfortunately the only way you can go is to walk. If you are taking Air
France, be prepared to miss your connection. This is because most
flights form the US arrive at the closed Terminal 3 and you are bussed
then to Terminal 2 after waiting 20 minutes for the steps to arrive at
the plane. Then the passport line is long and slow. And then you have a
10-minute walk between terminals. I would advise going right to the
transfer desk in Terminal 2, get a later flight and spend a few hours
walking in Paris.

erilar <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>, "Anthony"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> We are going from Atlanta to Nice via Paris CDG, where we have a
    >> rather short time to get our connection. We arrive in terminal 2C
    >> and depart from
    >> 2F. Does anyone here know whether it's best to go from one to the
    >> other on
    >> foot, or is there a bus one should take? TIA
    >>
    >>
    >
    > They're connected. You can run. Don't expect signs you can read unless
    > you can read French, and don't expect helpful employees.
    >

I assume you are on Delta transatlantic? Air France will met your plane and
give you an escort through the security lines if you are on a tight
connection. It worked for me last year. (side note running as best she
could one of my traveling companions made the flight but was a mess by the
time she got there. look for the Air France folks on the jetway, life
doesn't have to be all bad!)

Stanislas de Kertanguy <[email protected]> wrote:

    > The bus you must take is a white and yellow ADP bus. Lines 2 or 5 (but
    > better ask the drvier anyhow!)

Sorry. The right line is line 3!

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