Only Two Weeks Vacation Per Year In The Us???
Nov 2nd 2004, 8:14 pm
#886
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
> Remember, in my first post I said I don't enjoy travel. [...]
I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is a fairly bizarre place
to express that opinion...
> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
> drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
Biblical sites or sailboarding).
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I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is a fairly bizarre place
to express that opinion...
> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
> drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
Biblical sites or sailboarding).
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Nov 2nd 2004, 8:19 pm
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Re: US Imigrants???
Hi,
it's one of the things that upsets the negroes so much.
the vietnamese, khmer, lao, whatever lands here with nothing, doesn't
even speak english.
in 5 years they're successful business owners and their kids are
valedictorians in school.
the negro has had decades of aid and is STILL at the bottom economically.
during the LA/King riots you noted the asian shopkeepers protecting
their businesses against the negro rioters/thieves.
ever notice it's never the other way around.
>>I have NEVER seen a Vietnamese person standing on the corner with a
>>"Please Help" or "Will Work" sign.
>
>
> I've never seen any Oriental immigrant begging for money anywhere,
> although I suppose such a thing must exist, somewhere.
>
> Asians are quite smart, overall, and so they are rarely reduced to
> begging no matter where they choose to live. They are often textbook
> examples of "good" immigrants.
>
it's one of the things that upsets the negroes so much.
the vietnamese, khmer, lao, whatever lands here with nothing, doesn't
even speak english.
in 5 years they're successful business owners and their kids are
valedictorians in school.
the negro has had decades of aid and is STILL at the bottom economically.
during the LA/King riots you noted the asian shopkeepers protecting
their businesses against the negro rioters/thieves.
ever notice it's never the other way around.
>>I have NEVER seen a Vietnamese person standing on the corner with a
>>"Please Help" or "Will Work" sign.
>
>
> I've never seen any Oriental immigrant begging for money anywhere,
> although I suppose such a thing must exist, somewhere.
>
> Asians are quite smart, overall, and so they are rarely reduced to
> begging no matter where they choose to live. They are often textbook
> examples of "good" immigrants.
>
Nov 2nd 2004, 8:21 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
>> I could have sworn Boy George was your new monarch.
> He might be OK.
> I don't think has strongly committed to a political party, so
> that's fine.
He came out in support of one of the fascist parties during the
1980s. Though I believe he's since repented of it (which is more
than either Clapton and Morrissey have done to distance themselves
from their respective ventures into the politics of middle-class
resentment).
The public figure who most closely resembles the average-over-the-
centuries British monarch in attitudes and private life is probably
Peter Stringfellow.
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> He might be OK.
> I don't think has strongly committed to a political party, so
> that's fine.
He came out in support of one of the fascist parties during the
1980s. Though I believe he's since repented of it (which is more
than either Clapton and Morrissey have done to distance themselves
from their respective ventures into the politics of middle-class
resentment).
The public figure who most closely resembles the average-over-the-
centuries British monarch in attitudes and private life is probably
Peter Stringfellow.
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Nov 2nd 2004, 8:49 pm
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Re: US Imigrants???
>Hi,
>it's one of the things that upsets the negroes so much.
>the vietnamese, khmer, lao, whatever lands here with nothing, doesn't
>even speak english.
>in 5 years they're successful business owners and their kids are
>valedictorians in school.
>the negro has had decades of aid and is STILL at the bottom economically.
Its a cultural thing. They have grown used to being fed by the fat democratic
party. We should do away with welfare in this country and make them work
instead of letting them have 8 kids a piece and having the other races support
them. and yes I know all about the trailer park white trash.F them too, make em
work
Never Forgive, Never Forget
9-11-01
>it's one of the things that upsets the negroes so much.
>the vietnamese, khmer, lao, whatever lands here with nothing, doesn't
>even speak english.
>in 5 years they're successful business owners and their kids are
>valedictorians in school.
>the negro has had decades of aid and is STILL at the bottom economically.
Its a cultural thing. They have grown used to being fed by the fat democratic
party. We should do away with welfare in this country and make them work
instead of letting them have 8 kids a piece and having the other races support
them. and yes I know all about the trailer park white trash.F them too, make em
work
Never Forgive, Never Forget
9-11-01
Nov 2nd 2004, 9:22 pm
#890
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
bogus address <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>> Remember, in my first post I said I don't enjoy travel. [...]
> I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is
> a fairly bizarre place to express that opinion...
Thats the fault of the original poster, stupid.
>> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different
>> values, and drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan
> as to reflect the values of the entire planet...
Doesnt need to, just enough of that for her.
> and the range of people who would want to visit it isn't going
> to match the variety that Dubrovnik or Paris attracts, is it?
Doesnt need to.
> (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's the home of
> University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses
> might be, it's not going to draw people whose main
> thing is Renaissance art, Biblical sites or sailboarding).
Irrelevant to what's enough for her.
in message news:[email protected]...
>> Remember, in my first post I said I don't enjoy travel. [...]
> I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is
> a fairly bizarre place to express that opinion...
Thats the fault of the original poster, stupid.
>> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different
>> values, and drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan
> as to reflect the values of the entire planet...
Doesnt need to, just enough of that for her.
> and the range of people who would want to visit it isn't going
> to match the variety that Dubrovnik or Paris attracts, is it?
Doesnt need to.
> (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's the home of
> University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses
> might be, it's not going to draw people whose main
> thing is Renaissance art, Biblical sites or sailboarding).
Irrelevant to what's enough for her.
Nov 2nd 2004, 9:25 pm
#891
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
>> drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
> values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
> want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
> or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
> the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
> it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
> Biblical sites or sailboarding).
It does, however, draw huge numbers of people whose main thing is puffing on
the hay, or buying kitschy crafts.
Ann Arbor is a great place, but thinking that it is a substitute for the
great wild world out there is delusional.
miguel
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>> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
>> drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
> values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
> want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
> or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
> the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
> it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
> Biblical sites or sailboarding).
It does, however, draw huge numbers of people whose main thing is puffing on
the hay, or buying kitschy crafts.
Ann Arbor is a great place, but thinking that it is a substitute for the
great wild world out there is delusional.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Nov 2nd 2004, 10:01 pm
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Re: Passport Needed???
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 22:35:42 +0000, Hilary wrote:
>> > Only certain Schengen countries. The UK is not amongst them - you still
>> > need a passport to fly out of the UK unless you happen to be resident in
>> > one of the other Schengen countries and have the national ID card.
>>
>> The UK is *not* a Schengen country, that's why you need a passport.
>
> It seems to be unofficially included, which is why Spanish residents (for
> example) can fly *to* Britain using their national ID, but need a passport
> to fly *back*. Makes for some interesting problems...
Agreements on what is an appropriate inter-European travel document do
predate Schengen.
But I can't see why Spanish folks couldn't get back on their ID card.
That does not sound right.
>> > Only certain Schengen countries. The UK is not amongst them - you still
>> > need a passport to fly out of the UK unless you happen to be resident in
>> > one of the other Schengen countries and have the national ID card.
>>
>> The UK is *not* a Schengen country, that's why you need a passport.
>
> It seems to be unofficially included, which is why Spanish residents (for
> example) can fly *to* Britain using their national ID, but need a passport
> to fly *back*. Makes for some interesting problems...
Agreements on what is an appropriate inter-European travel document do
predate Schengen.
But I can't see why Spanish folks couldn't get back on their ID card.
That does not sound right.
Nov 2nd 2004, 10:08 pm
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
>>> drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
>> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
>> values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
>> want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
>> or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
>> the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
>> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
>> it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
>> Biblical sites or sailboarding).
> It does, however, draw huge numbers of people whose main thing is puffing on
> the hay, or buying kitschy crafts.
> Ann Arbor is a great place, but thinking that it is a substitute for the
> great wild world out there is delusional.
Pity she never did, JUST said that its enough for her.
Her choice.
You get to like that or lump it basically.
news:[email protected]...
> bogus address <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
>>> drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
>> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
>> values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
>> want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
>> or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
>> the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
>> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
>> it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
>> Biblical sites or sailboarding).
> It does, however, draw huge numbers of people whose main thing is puffing on
> the hay, or buying kitschy crafts.
> Ann Arbor is a great place, but thinking that it is a substitute for the
> great wild world out there is delusional.
Pity she never did, JUST said that its enough for her.
Her choice.
You get to like that or lump it basically.
Nov 2nd 2004, 10:17 pm
#894
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:09:23 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to john
>>I believe there are too many government workers at every level of
>>government--federal, state, county, and city.
>Others believe otherwise.
>>Keep government employment down-it is a drain on the economy.
>Its been done already several times over by every "right"
>government, to, and beyond, the point of damaging services.
>>Now, in your case, maybe you and your neighbor could find a lad and
>>PAY him to wash your cars. It might help the economy.
>Heres one for you.
>Why would paying someone to wash my car help the economy more
>than paying the same amount in extra taxes to fund an extra
>public service? You see, what matters is the creation of goods
>and services, not the method of funding.
So you don't see the value of you and your neighbor in paying a lad to
wash your cars.
How shortsighted.
Don't you think the lad will put his money right back into the
economy?
Oh, you wouldn't like that. You want more "public services".
Be sure to get in touch with your local politician and tell him:
- You want to pay more in taxes (which I doubt that you pay much in
taxes now)
- You want more "public services".
From the attitude that you have expressed I strongly suspect that you
are on the dole and loving every minute of it.
Your request for more "public services" will probably mean many more
bureaucrats and five new levels of management.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to john
>>I believe there are too many government workers at every level of
>>government--federal, state, county, and city.
>Others believe otherwise.
>>Keep government employment down-it is a drain on the economy.
>Its been done already several times over by every "right"
>government, to, and beyond, the point of damaging services.
>>Now, in your case, maybe you and your neighbor could find a lad and
>>PAY him to wash your cars. It might help the economy.
>Heres one for you.
>Why would paying someone to wash my car help the economy more
>than paying the same amount in extra taxes to fund an extra
>public service? You see, what matters is the creation of goods
>and services, not the method of funding.
So you don't see the value of you and your neighbor in paying a lad to
wash your cars.
How shortsighted.
Don't you think the lad will put his money right back into the
economy?
Oh, you wouldn't like that. You want more "public services".
Be sure to get in touch with your local politician and tell him:
- You want to pay more in taxes (which I doubt that you pay much in
taxes now)
- You want more "public services".
From the attitude that you have expressed I strongly suspect that you
are on the dole and loving every minute of it.
Your request for more "public services" will probably mean many more
bureaucrats and five new levels of management.
Nov 3rd 2004, 2:17 am
#895
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Re: Passport Needed???
I think that you miss the point. For EU citizens all that is required
to get thru immigration control in another EU country is a national ID.
Within Schengen there is no immigration control. That is done only
when you enter a Schengen country.
Hilary wrote:
>>>Only certain Schengen countries. The UK is not amongst them - you still
>>>need a passport to fly out of the UK unless you happen to be resident in
>>>one of the other Schengen countries and have the national ID card.
>>The UK is *not* a Schengen country, that's why you need a passport.
>
>
> It seems to be unofficially included, which is why Spanish residents (for
> example) can fly *to* Britain using their national ID, but need a passport
> to fly *back*. Makes for some interesting problems...
>
> Hilary
>
to get thru immigration control in another EU country is a national ID.
Within Schengen there is no immigration control. That is done only
when you enter a Schengen country.
Hilary wrote:
>>>Only certain Schengen countries. The UK is not amongst them - you still
>>>need a passport to fly out of the UK unless you happen to be resident in
>>>one of the other Schengen countries and have the national ID card.
>>The UK is *not* a Schengen country, that's why you need a passport.
>
>
> It seems to be unofficially included, which is why Spanish residents (for
> example) can fly *to* Britain using their national ID, but need a passport
> to fly *back*. Makes for some interesting problems...
>
> Hilary
>
Nov 3rd 2004, 2:26 am
#896
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
bogus address wrote:
>> Remember, in my first post I said I don't enjoy travel. [...]
>
>
> I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is a fairly bizarre place
> to express that opinion...
Then again, if the poster is coming from misc.consumers.frugal-living it
looks quite appropriate. This thread is madly cross posted.
>>Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
>>drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
>
>
> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
> values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
> want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
> or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
> the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
> it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
> Biblical sites or sailboarding).
>
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> Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760
> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/purrhome.html> food intolerance data & recipes,
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>
>> Remember, in my first post I said I don't enjoy travel. [...]
>
>
> I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is a fairly bizarre place
> to express that opinion...
Then again, if the poster is coming from misc.consumers.frugal-living it
looks quite appropriate. This thread is madly cross posted.
>>Frankly, I can eat new food, meet people with different values, and
>>drive an empty road right here in Ann Arbor.
>
>
> Some how I doubt if Ann Arbor is so cosmopolitan as to reflect the
> values of the entire planet... and the range of people who would
> want to visit it isn't going to match the variety that Dubrovnik
> or Paris attracts, is it? (All I know about Ann Arbor is that it's
> the home of University Microfilms International, and worthy as the
> enterprise of preserving and distributing Ph.D. theses might be,
> it's not going to draw people whose main thing is Renaissance art,
> Biblical sites or sailboarding).
>
> ========> Email to "j-c" at this site; email to "bogus" will bounce <========
> Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760
> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/purrhome.html> food intolerance data & recipes,
> Mac logic fonts, Scots traditional music files and CD-ROMs of Scottish music.
>
Nov 3rd 2004, 4:57 am
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Re: US Imigrants???
ARKADYA writes:
> Its a cultural thing.
It's mostly related to average IQ.
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Nov 3rd 2004, 8:28 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Following up to K. Reece
>>>I would like to see a volcano someday, and perhaps I shall.
>> I doubt it.
>Why would you doubt she could see a volcano?
because I suspect she's going to spend all her money on
marginally useful possessions.
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>>>I would like to see a volcano someday, and perhaps I shall.
>> I doubt it.
>Why would you doubt she could see a volcano?
because I suspect she's going to spend all her money on
marginally useful possessions.
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Nov 3rd 2004, 8:28 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Following up to Barbara Bomberger
> But I think
>>the annual vacation is... a fine thing for those who value it, but just
>>not necessary for me.
>I dont think an "annual" vacation is necessary for everyone. I do
>think people most people are kidding themselves when they say the
>weekends are enough time off.
I don't think I would enjoy travel if limited to an "annual
vacation". Having to wait a year before I went somewhere again? I
tend to go to places I can revisit regularly, making some sort of
trip every month.
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> But I think
>>the annual vacation is... a fine thing for those who value it, but just
>>not necessary for me.
>I dont think an "annual" vacation is necessary for everyone. I do
>think people most people are kidding themselves when they say the
>weekends are enough time off.
I don't think I would enjoy travel if limited to an "annual
vacation". Having to wait a year before I went somewhere again? I
tend to go to places I can revisit regularly, making some sort of
trip every month.
--
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Nov 3rd 2004, 8:28 am
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Re: ONLY TWO WEEKS VACATION PER YEAR IN THE US???
Following up to Frank F. Matthews
>> I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is a fairly bizarre place
>> to express that opinion...
>Then again, if the poster is coming from misc.consumers.frugal-living it
>looks quite appropriate. This thread is madly cross posted.
no doubt posted by a troll, but as often happens it gets people
talking in a sensible and interesting way.
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>> I'm reading this in rec.travel.europe, which is a fairly bizarre place
>> to express that opinion...
>Then again, if the poster is coming from misc.consumers.frugal-living it
>looks quite appropriate. This thread is madly cross posted.
no doubt posted by a troll, but as often happens it gets people
talking in a sensible and interesting way.
--
Mike Reid
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