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Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:24:59 +0100,
[email protected] (Steve Firth) has scripted: >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> >wrote: > >> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:54:15 +0100, >> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) has scripted: >> >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> >> >wrote: >> > >> >> Last time we did this it was clear Mac prices were a heap higher, and >> >> you simply point out some small spec difference which was supposed to >> >> justify a much higher price tag. >> > >> ><gasp> >> > >> >You mean you object to comparing like with like? >> >> How can you, when they are fundamentally different? > >You seem to be terribly confused. It's perfectly possible to compare >like with like. It's introducing a red heering on your part to attempt >to compare fundamentally different specifications. > >When one compares like with like as has been done already in this >thread, the often repeated drivel that Macs are expensive machines is >disproved. They are the same price, often cheaper than, no-name PC >clones built to a lower spec. The overall costs are higher. Macintosh have structured their pricing to make it appear value, but when you go to add on something... -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote: > Macs have very little to offer me, except for higher reliability. Umm hmm. Well since you know all about them that's it eh? <snigger> |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote: > Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:24:59 +0100, > [email protected] (Steve Firth) has scripted: > > >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> > >wrote: > > > >> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:54:15 +0100, > >> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) has scripted: > >> > >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> Last time we did this it was clear Mac prices were a heap higher, and > >> >> you simply point out some small spec difference which was supposed to > >> >> justify a much higher price tag. > >> > > >> ><gasp> > >> > > >> >You mean you object to comparing like with like? > >> > >> How can you, when they are fundamentally different? > > > >You seem to be terribly confused. It's perfectly possible to compare > >like with like. It's introducing a red heering on your part to attempt > >to compare fundamentally different specifications. > > > >When one compares like with like as has been done already in this > >thread, the often repeated drivel that Macs are expensive machines is > >disproved. They are the same price, often cheaper than, no-name PC > >clones built to a lower spec. > > The overall costs are higher. Macintosh have structured their pricing > to make it appear value, but when you go to add on something... Make your mind up, it's not that long since you were complaining that Macs are expensive machines. Now you are complaining that the peripherals are expensive. Except that isn't true either. I added a terabyte of storage for my laptop recently. It cost the same price as it did to add a terabyte to my PC laptop. In fact (gasp) I simply plugged the same connector into each laptop and swap the same drive between each computer. And I use the same scanner, the same printers, the same server, and even in the case of the bespoke software I'm using for the current project, the same software. Heck I even use the same memory and the same internal drives on both platforms. So what is there to add on that costs so much more on the Mac than on the PC and what hardware am I tied into in such a way that Apple forces me to buy at their (hypothetically inflated) price? |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Deeply Filled Mortician wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:06:39 GMT, NM > <[email protected]> has scripted: > >> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:27:14 GMT, NM >>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>> >>>> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>>>> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:30:13 GMT, NM >>>>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>>>> >>>>>> Magda wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:22:59 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, NM <[email protected]> arranged >>>>>>> some electrons, so they looked like this: >>>>>>> That's why 99.99% of the world are using Macs... they are so wunnnnnerful... >>>>>>> >>>>>> Well they work for me but I've never been a sheep, however if you are >>>>>> happy with it that's all that matters. >>>>> This is the part that I don't get. Why do so many Mac users have a >>>>> silly attitude like this? >>>>> >>>>> Oh, I'm so independent from the mainstream, coz I got a Mac. It's just >>>>> another big corporation that exists to take your money! >>>> Nobody said different, I have tried Windoze and I prefer Mac for many >>>> reasons, If you want to follow the herd get on with it I'm not hindering >>>> you. >>> Of course the Mac herd is the one you've chosen to follow. >> And? At least I thought about it and made a decision to NOT follow the >> herd, however as you have discovered it's easier to just drop in with >> most others and accept second best as the easy option, shame it's hard >> to justify. > > Just what do you know about my selection criteria? Did you make any? Evidence says no, just took what was offered. |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Following up to [email protected] (Steve Firth) :
>Make your mind up, it's not that long since you were complaining that >Macs are expensive machines. Now you are complaining that the >peripherals are expensive. Not mutually exclusive statements. -- Tim C. |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
On 23 apr, 15:16, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > Make credence recognised that on 23 Apr 2007 03:15:52 -0700, > [email protected] has scripted: > > > > > > >On 23 apr, 12:07, Deeply Filled Mortician > ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >> Make credence recognised that on 23 Apr 2007 07:01:15 GMT, Adrian > >> <[email protected]> has scripted: > > >> >SteveH ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they > >> >were saying : > > >> >> Apple hardware can't be compared with cheap generic hardware > > >> >Yes, it can. > > >> "OH NO IT CAN'T!!!! ONE'S GOT A DUEL CORE 2 THINGY!!!!" > > >Well, if you're making a comparison, it sort of helps if you compare > >like for like, no? > > From a shop I visited recently: > > http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/ABC...s/ABCD0002.JPG > > Slight difference in price, but they appear like for like to me. I did warn you about making a fool of yourself again. Find out the difference between a "Mac computer" and a random piece of Apple hardware. (In fact I'm grateful to you for posting these pics - I may buy the cheap monitor to plug into my Mac Mini computer.) It's not hard to find items of hardware that are cheaper than superficially similar Apple kit elsewhere - I'll give you another for free - iPod socks and Marks and Spencers socks. B; |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
On 23 apr, 15:22, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > Make credence recognised that on 23 Apr 2007 03:14:05 -0700, > [email protected] has scripted: > > > > > > >On 23 apr, 12:05, Deeply Filled Mortician > ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >> Make credence recognised that on 22 Apr 2007 23:49:17 -0700, > >> [email protected] has scripted: > > >> >On 23 apr, 00:09, Deeply Filled Mortician > >> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: > >> >> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:17:09 +0100, > >> >> [email protected] (SteveH) has scripted: > > >> >> >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> > >> >> >wrote: > > >> >> >> >Windows 1.0 was launched in November 1985. It was a pile of poo, a > >> >> >> >tradition that has been consistently maintained right the way up to the > >> >> >> >present day. > > >> >> >> Windows is not bad. Not great, but better than anything else that's > >> >> >> been available. > > >> >> >> The alternative is to go Mac, but be prepared to change worlds - and > >> >> >> open your wallet! > > >> >> >Where did this gem of 'knowledge' come from? > > >> >> >Mac hardware is no more expensive than any other quality computer > >> >> >hardware. My MacBook was stupidly cheap when compared with a lot of the > >> >> >WinTel machines out there. The OS is actually *cheaper* than Windows if > >> >> >you want the same functionality. > > >> >> >So, in conclusion, you're talking shite. > > >> >> Gawd, here we go again with a bunch of passionate Mac defending > >> >> diatribe with a few ousting clauses like '"quality computer hardware" > >> >> and "same functionality". > > >> >Yeah - "here we go again" indeed. Last time we did this you, Martin > >> >and Barbara made fools of yourselves. Is your memory really *so* > >> >short? > > >> Last time we did this it was clear Mac prices were a heap higher, and > >> you simply point out some small spec difference which was supposed to > >> justify a much higher price tag. > > >Oh really? Care to provide a link to where this was shown? > > >No, I thought not. > > Ferchristsake, knock it off with the silly pettyness. See the post I > just sent before you "think not". Keep digging - you'll be back in Oz in no time at this rate. B; |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
>It's not hard to find items of hardware that are cheaper than
>superficially similar Apple kit elsewhere - I'll give you another for >free - iPod socks and Marks and Spencers socks. iPod socks cost 3 times as much as the otherwise identical Marks & Sparks socks? -- Tim C. |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
On 23 apr, 16:33, Tim C. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >It's not hard to find items of hardware that are cheaper than > >superficially similar Apple kit elsewhere - I'll give you another for > >free - iPod socks and Marks and Spencers socks. > > iPod socks cost 3 times as much as the otherwise identical Marks & Sparks > socks? I imagine so - I have to say that I'm not up to date on M&S prices - perhaps DFM can nip into town with his camera and take some candid shots for us. B; |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:09:02 GMT, NM
<[email protected]> has scripted: >Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:06:39 GMT, NM >> <[email protected]> has scripted: >> >>> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>>> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:27:14 GMT, NM >>>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>>> >>>>> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>>>>> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:30:13 GMT, NM >>>>>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Magda wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:22:59 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, NM <[email protected]> arranged >>>>>>>> some electrons, so they looked like this: >>>>>>>> That's why 99.99% of the world are using Macs... they are so wunnnnnerful... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well they work for me but I've never been a sheep, however if you are >>>>>>> happy with it that's all that matters. >>>>>> This is the part that I don't get. Why do so many Mac users have a >>>>>> silly attitude like this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, I'm so independent from the mainstream, coz I got a Mac. It's just >>>>>> another big corporation that exists to take your money! >>>>> Nobody said different, I have tried Windoze and I prefer Mac for many >>>>> reasons, If you want to follow the herd get on with it I'm not hindering >>>>> you. >>>> Of course the Mac herd is the one you've chosen to follow. >>> And? At least I thought about it and made a decision to NOT follow the >>> herd, however as you have discovered it's easier to just drop in with >>> most others and accept second best as the easy option, shame it's hard >>> to justify. >> >> Just what do you know about my selection criteria? > >Did you make any? Evidence says no, just took what was offered. You really just made a complete tit out of yourself, didn't you?. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:59:32 +0100,
[email protected] (Steve Firth) has scripted: >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> >wrote: > >> Macs have very little to offer me, except for higher reliability. > >Umm hmm. Well since you know all about them that's it eh? > ><snigger> Ooooh, *snigger*. Gosh, that Mac advertising campaign certainly had it's desired affect on someone. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Make credence recognised that on 23 Apr 2007 07:29:41 -0700,
[email protected] has scripted: >On 23 apr, 15:16, Deeply Filled Mortician ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: >> Make credence recognised that on 23 Apr 2007 03:15:52 -0700, >> [email protected] has scripted: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On 23 apr, 12:07, Deeply Filled Mortician >> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote: >> >> Make credence recognised that on 23 Apr 2007 07:01:15 GMT, Adrian >> >> <[email protected]> has scripted: >> >> >> >SteveH ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much like they >> >> >were saying : >> >> >> >> Apple hardware can't be compared with cheap generic hardware >> >> >> >Yes, it can. >> >> >> "OH NO IT CAN'T!!!! ONE'S GOT A DUEL CORE 2 THINGY!!!!" >> >> >Well, if you're making a comparison, it sort of helps if you compare >> >like for like, no? >> >> From a shop I visited recently: >> >> http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/ABC...s/ABCD0002.JPG >> >> Slight difference in price, but they appear like for like to me. > >I did warn you about making a fool of yourself again. Find out the >difference between a "Mac computer" and a random piece of Apple >hardware. (In fact I'm grateful to you for posting these pics - I may >buy the cheap monitor to plug into my Mac Mini computer.) Note that I never limited it to Mac computers. Look up the top, and you'll see this was about Apple hardware. >It's not hard to find items of hardware that are cheaper than >superficially similar Apple kit elsewhere - I'll give you another for >free - iPod socks and Marks and Spencers socks. Medication time, jeremy. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:59:32 +0100,
[email protected] (Steve Firth) has scripted: >Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> >wrote: >> The overall costs are higher. Macintosh have structured their pricing >> to make it appear value, but when you go to add on something... > >Make your mind up, it's not that long since you were complaining that >Macs are expensive machines. Now you are complaining that the >peripherals are expensive. And? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Deeply Filled Mortician wrote:
> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:09:02 GMT, NM > <[email protected]> has scripted: > >> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:06:39 GMT, NM >>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>> >>>> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>>>> Make credence recognised that on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:27:14 GMT, NM >>>>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>>>> >>>>>> Deeply Filled Mortician wrote: >>>>>>> Make credence recognised that on Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:30:13 GMT, NM >>>>>>> <[email protected]> has scripted: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Magda wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:22:59 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, NM <[email protected]> arranged >>>>>>>>> some electrons, so they looked like this: >>>>>>>>> That's why 99.99% of the world are using Macs... they are so wunnnnnerful... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well they work for me but I've never been a sheep, however if you are >>>>>>>> happy with it that's all that matters. >>>>>>> This is the part that I don't get. Why do so many Mac users have a >>>>>>> silly attitude like this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, I'm so independent from the mainstream, coz I got a Mac. It's just >>>>>>> another big corporation that exists to take your money! >>>>>> Nobody said different, I have tried Windoze and I prefer Mac for many >>>>>> reasons, If you want to follow the herd get on with it I'm not hindering >>>>>> you. >>>>> Of course the Mac herd is the one you've chosen to follow. >>>> And? At least I thought about it and made a decision to NOT follow the >>>> herd, however as you have discovered it's easier to just drop in with >>>> most others and accept second best as the easy option, shame it's hard >>>> to justify. >>> Just what do you know about my selection criteria? >> Did you make any? Evidence says no, just took what was offered. > > You really just made a complete tit out of yourself, didn't you?. In your opinion (which is valueless) |
Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote: > From a shop I visited recently: > > http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/ABCD0001.JPG > http://deepfriedmars.com/OddPics/ABCD0002.JPG > > Slight difference in price, You're being ripped off. The LG monitor is available for EUR 220 elsewhere. The going price for the 20" Cinema dislay in Italy is EUR 599. That tends to suggest that this "recent" visit was not so recent. As indeed do the file creation dates: [IMG] ABCD0001.JPG 15-Feb-2007 05:16 91k [IMG] ABCD0002.JPG 15-Feb-2007 05:17 96k You're a bit of an ugly bugger BTW. Hmm, Pentax Optio. Oh, BTW, your site security sucks. If you hadn't already guessed. Must be that famous PC user superior ability, eh? > but they appear like for like to me. Ah, you have an inability to tell the difference between arse and elbow. Why didn't you say so earlier? Heck if you prefer the LG monitor (or something cheaper like an Acer or Samsung) to an Apple monitor, why not buy the LG? It will still work with Apple kit. Or did you imagine that Apple computers will only work with Apple displays? |
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