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-Tim Apr 25th 2007 11:06 pm

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
"Steve Firth" wrote
> ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
> non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."

Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself? Bless...
Most people can manage that quite easily!

Steve Firth Apr 25th 2007 11:23 pm

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Huge <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2007-04-24, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
> > Chris Bartram <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> One of my bugbears with Windows is it never feels
> >> like it was intended to be multi-user, and has just been kludged into it.
> >
> > The same used to apply to MacOS. And let's face it, despite his
> > protestations Bill and his crew slavishly copied MacOS, particularly for
> > Windows 3.11.
>
> A touch ironic, given that Jobs and his crew slavishly copied Xerox.

Although unlike M$, Apple did actually pay Xerox for what they took.

Steve Firth Apr 25th 2007 11:28 pm

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Steve Firth" wrote
> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
>
> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself? Bless...
> Most people can manage that quite easily!

<sigh>

Where did I say that I can't change a battery?

In what way does changing a battery make a device "user serviceable"?

Here's a clue bozo. I have a shortwave radio. It needs AA batteries
which have to be changed. The radio is marked "not user serviceable."

Do I need to type more slowly for your pea-sized brain to absorb the
information?

-Tim Apr 26th 2007 12:37 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
>> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
>> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
>>
> "Tim" wrote:
>> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself? Bless...
>> Most people can manage that quite easily!
>
"Steve Firth" wrote
> <sigh>
>
> Where did I say that I can't change a battery?

Your comment suggests that you need someone else to change the batteries:-

"mistakenly" => you disagree
"... change ... AA battery ..."
"user" = You

There are, of course, many definitions for "serviceable"...

> ...
> <Other crap snipped>

Steve Firth Apr 26th 2007 1:07 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
> >> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
> >> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
> >>
> > "Tim" wrote:
> >> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself? Bless...
> >> Most people can manage that quite easily!
> >
> "Steve Firth" wrote
> > <sigh>
> >
> > Where did I say that I can't change a battery?
>
> Your comment suggests that you need someone else to change the batteries:-

No it doesn't.

> "mistakenly" => you disagree
> "... change ... AA battery ..."
> "user" = You

"they"

Someone else, not me.

"mistakenly"

erroneously

"consider"

have the opinion, preceded by "they" hence "they" have the opinion, not
I.

"having to change a non-rechargeable AA battery as"

That is, someone else "the 'they' referred to previously" is the one
changing a battery


"user servicable."

A term which is used to mean "serviceable by the user" and does not
refer to the replacement of consumables such as non-rechargeable
batteries.

> There are, of course, many definitions for "serviceable"...

There are of course many definitions for ****wit, and you seem to fit
all of them.

You need remedial English lessons.

> > ...
> > <Other crap snipped>

You appear to be unable to quote a usenet post correctly. And the "crap"
you snipped did show up your drooling stupidity for what it is, so I can
see why you snipped it.

-Tim Apr 26th 2007 1:33 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
>> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> >> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
>> >> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
>> >>
>> > "Tim" wrote:
>> >> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself?
>> >> Bless...
>> >> Most people can manage that quite easily!
>> >
>> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> > Where did I say that I can't change a battery?
>>
> "Tim" wrote:
>> Your comment suggests that you need someone else to change the
>> batteries:-
>>
>> "mistakenly" => you disagree
>> "... change ... AA battery ..."
>> "user" = You
>
"Steve Firth" wrote
> "they"
> ...
> "consider"
>
> have the opinion, preceded by "they"
> hence "they" have the opinion, not I.

Exactly - that's why I said you disagreed with their opinion.
Do you have a problem with simple english comprehension now?

"Steve Firth" wrote
> That is, someone else "the 'they' referred to
> previously" is the one changing a battery

No, we've already determined that it's the "someone
else" who has the *opinion* stated - we hadn't
decided yet who was to be changing any battery.

Now, as we know that you think their opinion was wrong,
then you must think that the "user" can't change the battery.
Of course, most other people will be happy to
change the battery, so you must be referring to
your own (lack of) capability to change batteries...


>> > ...
>> > <Other crap snipped>
> [Again.]

Steve Firth Apr 26th 2007 1:40 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
> >> >> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
> >> >> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
> >> >>
> >> > "Tim" wrote:
> >> >> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself?
> >> >> Bless...
> >> >> Most people can manage that quite easily!
> >> >
> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
> >> > Where did I say that I can't change a battery?
> >>
> > "Tim" wrote:
> >> Your comment suggests that you need someone else to change the
> >> batteries:-
> >>
> >> "mistakenly" => you disagree
> >> "... change ... AA battery ..."
> >> "user" = You
> >
> "Steve Firth" wrote
> > "they"
> > ...
> > "consider"
> >
> > have the opinion, preceded by "they"
> > hence "they" have the opinion, not I.
>
> Exactly - that's why I said you disagreed with their opinion.
> Do you have a problem with simple english comprehension now?

No, but I'm obviusly dealing with someone who can't parse a sentence.

> "Steve Firth" wrote
> > That is, someone else "the 'they' referred to
> > previously" is the one changing a battery
>
> No, we've already determined that it's the "someone
> else" who has the *opinion* stated - we hadn't
> decided yet who was to be changing any battery.

The someone else has the opinion about changing the battery.

> Now, as we know that you think their opinion was wrong,
> then you must think that the "user" can't change the battery.

That's stupid. At no point have indicated that either I or the "they"
that is the subject of the sentence cannot change the battery.

> Of course, most other people will be happy to
> change the battery, so you must be referring to
> your own (lack of) capability to change batteries...

Try reading the sentence, rather than reading something into it.

The mistaken opion referred to is thinking that changing a battery (a
consumable) makes a device user serviceable.

> >> > ...
> >> > <Other crap snipped>
> > [Again.]

**** off you mindless twat.

-Tim Apr 26th 2007 2:13 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
>> >> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> >> >> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
>> >> >> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
>> >> >>
>> >> > "Tim" wrote:
>> >> >> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to
>> >> >> swap an AA battery yourself? Bless...
>> >> >> Most people can manage that quite easily!
>> >> >
>> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> >> > Where did I say that I can't change a battery?
>> >>
>> > "Tim" wrote:
>> >> Your comment suggests that you need
>> >> someone else to change the batteries:-
>> >>
>> >> "mistakenly" => you disagree
>> >> "... change ... AA battery ..."
>> >> "user" = You
>> >
>> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> > "they"
>> > ...
>> > "consider"
>> >
>> > have the opinion, preceded by "they"
>> > hence "they" have the opinion, not I.
>>
> "Tim" wrote:
>> Exactly - that's why I said you disagreed with their opinion.
>
>> "Steve Firth" wrote
>> > That is, someone else "the 'they' referred to
>> > previously" is the one changing a battery
>>
> "Tim" wrote:
>> No, we've already determined that it's the "someone
>> else" who has the *opinion* stated - we hadn't
>> decided yet who was to be changing any battery.
>
"Steve Firth" wrote
> The someone else has the opinion about changing the battery.

Yep, that's what I just said!

> "Tim" wrote:
>> Now, as we know that you think their opinion was wrong,
>> then you must think that the "user" can't change the battery.
>
"Steve Firth" wrote
> That's stupid. At no point have indicated that either I or the "they"
> that is the subject of the sentence cannot change the battery.

The "they" suggested that the battery was changeable by the user.
You *disagreed* with their opinion !!

"Steve Firth" wrote
> The mistaken opion referred to is thinking that changing a
> battery (a consumable) makes a device user serviceable.

So - who do you consider should perform the
service of changing the battery, if not the user?

>> >> > ...
>> >> > <Other crap snipped>
>> > [Yet again.]

By the way, giving verbal abuse doesn't mean you win the
argument. In fact, it suggests that you are *losing* the argument,
as you have no further constructive comments to make.

Steve Firth Apr 26th 2007 2:19 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

> By the way, giving verbal abuse doesn't mean you win the
> argument.

And repeatedly stating something which shows you don't understand simple
English doesn't mean there is an argument. And I am obviously dealing
with a congenital idiot.

Or rather I'm not. Because I see no point in continuing to talk to a
drooling ****wad.

For the avoidance of doubt. At no time did I say I could not change a
battery. At no time did I say that someone else could not change a
battery.

What I did say can be summarised as 'the ability to change a battery
does not make an item "user serviceable"'

Now you can continue with your juvenile attempts at point scoring.

-Tim Apr 26th 2007 2:40 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
> "Tim" wrote:
>> By the way, giving verbal abuse
>> doesn't mean you win the argument.
>
"Steve Firth" wrote: <Some more abuse, snipped>

Steve, I note you refuse to answer the question:
"Who do you consider should perform the
service of changing the battery, if not the user?".

Is it because you've realised your mistake?

Steve Firth Apr 26th 2007 3:21 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

> > "Tim" wrote:
> >> By the way, giving verbal abuse
> >> doesn't mean you win the argument.

Then you lose, since you were the first to do so.

> "Steve Firth" wrote: <Some more abuse, snipped>
>
> Steve, I note you refuse to answer the question:
> "Who do you consider should perform the
> service of changing the battery, if not the user?".
>
> Is it because you've realised your mistake?

I'm not refusing to answer it, the question is a canard, since the
question of who changes the battery is entirely something that you have
invented as a reason for a mindless argument.

If you keep snipping the answers given and indeed describing any answer
as "crap" then you are obviously not interested in the answer and only
interested in mudslinging and misrepresentation.

Now **** off and play in the main road with the other morons.

Mister Bartlett Apr 26th 2007 4:24 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Tim <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> "Steve Firth" wrote
> >> > ... they mistakenly consider having to change a
> >> > non-rechargeable AA battery as "user servicable."
> >>
> > "Tim" wrote:
> >> Ah, diddums - can't you manage to swap an AA battery yourself? Bless...
> >> Most people can manage that quite easily!
> >
> "Steve Firth" wrote
> > <sigh>
> >
> > Where did I say that I can't change a battery?
>
> Your comment suggests that you need someone else to change the batteries:-
>
> "mistakenly" => you disagree
> "... change ... AA battery ..."
> "user" = You
>
> There are, of course, many definitions for "serviceable"...

There are indeed, and you chose one. Changing a battery in a car might
be called "servicing". Changing an AA battery in an MP3 player hardly
merits the term.

B;


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Deeply Filled Mortician Apr 26th 2007 8:50 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Make credence recognised that on Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:40:07 +0100,
"Tim" <[email protected]> has scripted:

>> "Tim" wrote:
>>> By the way, giving verbal abuse
>>> doesn't mean you win the argument.
>>
>"Steve Firth" wrote: <Some more abuse, snipped>
>
>Steve, I note you refuse to answer the question:
>"Who do you consider should perform the
>service of changing the battery, if not the user?".
>
>Is it because you've realised your mistake?

Have you figured out why I plonked him, Tim?
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Brain Robertson Apr 26th 2007 9:33 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
Deeply Filled Mortician <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu>
wrote:

> Have you figured out why I plonked him, Tim?

Because you're a plonker?

David Taylor Apr 28th 2007 3:35 am

Re: Motorists hit by card clone scam
 
On 2007-04-24, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
> Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:16:48 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
>> %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) arranged some electrons, so they looked
>> like this:
>>
>> ... Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
>> ...
>> ... > Mari = husband. Marie = Mary.
>> ... >
>> ... > Mac user indeed...
>> ...
>> ... <sigh>
>> ...
>> ... I've never studied the French language at any school, nor taken a course
>> ... in French for self study. I do not claim to speak French. I do not speak
>> ... French. I was not born speaking French, nor indeed was any citizen of
>> ... France. Speaking French is not an indicator of intelligence.
>> ...
>> ... However you certainly are scoring points for being about the dumbest ass
>> ... that has posted to this newsgroup.
>>
>> You have big clusters of brain cells that stopped working long ago. No
>> need to explain,
>
> Right, you think people come into the world able to speak a variety of
> languages. And you want to call me dumb?

I want to call you dumb, but only because you keep replying...

--
David Taylor


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