Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

    >Then I can understand the authorities' concern over them - I
    >imagine they might easily be programmed for a grimmer
    >purpose, by people who know how.

Yes, you can make them go "beep" to wake David up :-)
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Following up to poldy

    >The administration in the US sees this as a political bonanza. Bush
    >gave a speech today about how security is a big issue against the
    >"Islamic Fascists."

that's interesting, here I'm assuming its taken as why the f***
did Blair involve us in this stupid war?
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Following up to Gregory Morrow

    >> Perhaps they will work out5 a "deal" with Bush, so they can
    >> send them to join his unclassified prisoners at Guatanamo?
    >That would be fine with me. AFAIC they can lock the pukes away forever...

so anybody accuses is guilty, wonderful.
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Following up to Lennart Petersen

    >Me too. I'm sure my camera will survive if packed with some care.
    >But a such system opens for not so honest air-terminal workers if the
    >average suitcase contains a laptop,mobile phone and an expensive camera.

this is going to be a real problem.
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Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy
of city south and deansgate

    > (To me - and probably many
    >> Americans - "fob" means a simple key-chain ornament.)
    >Ah- that's interesting- it was a word I didn't use until a few weeks
    >ago. My 'fob' opens the electronic entries to the communal areas of the
    >building I live in.

a fob to me is a little leather thing with a BMW badge on it show
I'm an important person, the electronics which do things like
open the doors, set the seat position etc are in what I call the
"key". Increasingly a credit card thingy.
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Following up to Gregory Morrow

    >Which would be a GREAT thing IMNSHO. Banning most carry - ons would be
    >*very* smart move, it would make air travel *much* more pleasant...

until you find all your valuables have been stolen or lost at the
destination airport
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Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

    >Oh, now I get it! You're talking about the electronic
    >gadgets that "arm" car alarm systems, and open car locks
    >with the push of a button.

Yes, if they lose my hold luggage, i cant move my car. I cant
take the photos which are a fair part of the purpose of the trip
or I dont have the memory cards they are on. Etc etc etc
I was already thinking of moving to ferries, if this has to
become permenant, it might clinch it, unless they come up with
better hold secirity.
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Gregory Morrow <[email protected]> wrote:

    > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
    >
    > > David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city
    > > south and
    > > deansgate wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > >
    > > > It will be interesting to watch this all unfold. (The people held will
    > > > have to be charged eventually- 4 weeks IIRC?)
    > >
    > > Perhaps they will work out5 a "deal" with Bush, so they can
    > > send them to join his unclassified prisoners at Guatanamo?
    >
    >
    > That would be fine with me. AFAIC they can lock the pukes away forever...
    >
    >
    > > Some of those have been there for several years - have any
    > > yet been "charged"?
    > >
    >
    >
    > We're not dealing here with some 13 year - olds who threw a baseball through
    > a window, Evelyn...

Actually, in many of the cases, that is exactly what you're dealing
with. Kids who were in the wrong place at the wrong time- in other cases
people who were simply shopped by locals for money. There are
undoubtedly some malevolent people in Guantanamo (in addition to the
guard, natch) but otherwise- it's a shameful situation. Even Bush's
poodle doesn't like it. It's just another thing which brings shame to
the US in my opinion. It's a pretty good recruiting tool for terrorists
too.

One of the most astonishing things that Bush has managed to do is to
have diluted practically all the genuine sympathy which the rest of the
world had for the US on 9/11. He started a 'war' on terrorism, and I
think he and his cronies have if anything just made a bad situation
worse.

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Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy
of city south and deansgate

    >One of the most astonishing things that Bush has managed to do is to
    >have diluted practically all the genuine sympathy which the rest of the
    >world had for the US on 9/11. He started a 'war' on terrorism, and I
    >think he and his cronies have if anything just made a bad situation
    >worse.

its a monument to his immense stupidity.
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"The Reid" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
    > Following up to Lennart Petersen
    >>Me too. I'm sure my camera will survive if packed with some care.
    >>But a such system opens for not so honest air-terminal workers if the
    >>average suitcase contains a laptop,mobile phone and an expensive camera.
    > this is going to be a real problem.
    > --
    > Mike Reid
--------------
I would guess it's likely to go back to normal rules after a while.
With a more elaborate search perhaps. Possibly you have to show your
camera works as a normal camera is supposed to.
Yesterday here at the Stockholm airports the ban for hand luggage were for
US flights on request from US authorities. Rest of the flights had the
usual rules, UK flights being cancelled.
Today they've announced that all liquid things like
toothpaste,sunblock,hairgel beverages are banned in the hand-luggage for US
flights. As I can read out cameras,laptops and such things are allowed
onboard and rest of the flights aren't affected at all.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
(EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)) wrote:

    > *From:* "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]>
    > *Date:* Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:10:47 -0700
    >
    >
    >
    > [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > > (EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)) wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>*From:* "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]>
    > >>*Date:* Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:21:25 -0700
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>The Reid wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>Following up to mini Mini
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>>In fact, I had no idea this was going on until I read it here. If
    > you >>>>already knew I'm sure you could have ignored the thread. Now, I
    > have >>
    > >>turned >>on the news but won't have normally.
    > >>
    > >>>I posted about 9/11 here and people said they were sitting at the
    > >>>PC with no news input and didnt know what I was on about..
    > >>
    > >>I never listen to the news in the morning (too busy getting
    > >>ready for work). I only learned about 9/11 because my
    > >>house-cleaner told me about it, when he arrived before I
    > >>left for work that morning. (Since I normally listen to the
    > >>classical music radio station on my way to the office, I
    > >>probably would otherwise only have heard about it after I
    > >>arrived there.)
    > >
    > >
    > > Surely even that station would have interrupted normal programming
    > > for a news event of such magnitude?
    > >
    > > (Is it KUSC, by the way? I forget where you live...)
    >
    > KUSC, yes

Glad to hear they're still going - ISTR they had a major funding crisis
some years ago. I briefly did some editing work for them back in the 80s.

The Reid wrote:

    > Yes, if they lose my hold luggage, i cant move my car. I cant
    > take the photos which are a fair part of the purpose of the trip
    > or I dont have the memory cards they are on. Etc etc etc
    > I was already thinking of moving to ferries, if this has to
    > become permenant, it might clinch it, unless they come up with
    > better hold secirity.

If this stupidity becomes permanent, that's another good reason not to
move back to the UK. Just in the last few weeks I've had my luggage
mislaid twice. In the event, it just meant that the airline had to
deliver my bags of dirty laundry to my house by taxi, saving me the
trouble of carrying it on the train, but if they also lost my keys and
computer, that would be somewhat annoying.

B;

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ups.com...
    > The Reid wrote:
    >> Yes, if they lose my hold luggage, i cant move my car. I cant
    >> take the photos which are a fair part of the purpose of the trip
    >> or I dont have the memory cards they are on. Etc etc etc
    >> I was already thinking of moving to ferries, if this has to
    >> become permenant, it might clinch it, unless they come up with
    >> better hold secirity.
    > If this stupidity becomes permanent, that's another good reason not to
    > move back to the UK. Just in the last few weeks I've had my luggage
    > mislaid twice. In the event, it just meant that the airline had to
    > deliver my bags of dirty laundry to my house by taxi, saving me the
    > trouble of carrying it on the train, but if they also lost my keys and
    > computer, that would be somewhat annoying.

There is no chance that the UK will introduce this
unilaterally. E* bookings to CDG would quadruple.

If carry-on is restreicted it will be introducted
Eurowide.

tim

The Reid wrote:

    > Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
    >
    >
    >>Oh, now I get it! You're talking about the electronic
    >>gadgets that "arm" car alarm systems, and open car locks
    >>with the push of a button.
    >
    >
    > Yes, if they lose my hold luggage, i cant move my car. I cant
    > take the photos which are a fair part of the purpose of the trip
    > or I dont have the memory cards they are on. Etc etc etc
    > I was already thinking of moving to ferries, if this has to
    > become permenant, it might clinch it, unless they come up with
    > better hold secirity.

We've never had "ferries" from this side of the pond, but
are there still "ocean liners" plying their way between
continents? (A "Chunnel" from the U.S. to Europe doesn't
seem practical, so how else would we get there from the here?)

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city
south and
deansgate wrote:

    >
    > One of the most astonishing things that Bush has managed to do is to
    > have diluted practically all the genuine sympathy which the rest of the
    > world had for the US on 9/11. He started a 'war' on terrorism, and I
    > think he and his cronies have if anything just made a bad situation
    > worse.

There are plenty of Americans who will give you no argument
about that! (I only hope we haven't become such a nation of
sheep that the November elections won't begin to remedy that
sorry truth.)

    >