La canicule
Jul 23rd 2006 | 4:32 pm
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Re: La canicule
"Dave Frightens Me" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
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> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:58:31 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >Here in Perth (Australia) we have AVERAGE maximum temperatures in
December
> >27.4C, January 29.7C, February 30.0C and March 28.0C so we do have some
very
> >hot weather in our summer.
> 30c is not hot, and certainly not hot by Oz standards! Admittedly I've
> never been to Perth, but dammit, the summer in Adelaide can average 10
> or 15 degrees above that!
Adelaide average maximum temperatures over the last 92 years are:
December 26.8C
January 28.5C
February 28.5C
March 26.0C
These figures taken from the official government weather bureau website
www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages
Obviously the memory of heat in Oz makes for exaggerated claims. :-)
Gerrit
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> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 22:58:31 +0800, "Gerrit 't Hart" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >Here in Perth (Australia) we have AVERAGE maximum temperatures in
December
> >27.4C, January 29.7C, February 30.0C and March 28.0C so we do have some
very
> >hot weather in our summer.
> 30c is not hot, and certainly not hot by Oz standards! Admittedly I've
> never been to Perth, but dammit, the summer in Adelaide can average 10
> or 15 degrees above that!
Adelaide average maximum temperatures over the last 92 years are:
December 26.8C
January 28.5C
February 28.5C
March 26.0C
These figures taken from the official government weather bureau website
www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages
Obviously the memory of heat in Oz makes for exaggerated claims. :-)
Gerrit
Jul 23rd 2006 | 4:52 pm
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Re: La canicule
dgs writes:
> Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
Yes, that's what I said.
> Also, beers like Guinness or Murphy's are at least 95% water.
The alcohol they contain still makes them inappropriate for
rehydration.
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> Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
Yes, that's what I said.
> Also, beers like Guinness or Murphy's are at least 95% water.
The alcohol they contain still makes them inappropriate for
rehydration.
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Jul 23rd 2006 | 8:31 pm
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On 24/07/06 1:22, in article [email protected],
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> But you are losing water faster than you are losing salt, because salt
> is very hypotonic as compared with body fluids.
When I said take salt I meant with water replenishment too.
The normal daily intake of salt is about 2-4 g per day roughly
equivalent to a teaspoonful of salt. To maintain
a proper balance, water input should equal water output,
and salt input should equal output. So if you sweat
only a liter or two per day you need that much water, the
salt balance will probably be maintained through one's
normal diet. One probably just automatically salts one food
more. In the current heat wave in Paris, sedentary people
like yourself will get enough salt replacement
HOWEVER, in a high evaporation situation when one is sweating
off 8 liters of water a day, the salt deficit will be important.
With athletes, who lose water in running, the situation
can produce a low sodium level. Basically it is easier
to drink water than to replenish salt during a competition.
"A study was performed on 36 athletes during a three- to four- hour
triathlon and 64 athletes at an ironman race, which lasts between nine and
15 hours. No athletes were sodium deficient after the shorter race, but 27%
were sodium deficient (hyponatremic) following the ironman heat. An average
of 17% of the ironman participants required medical attention, most for
hyponatremia (low or diluted serum sodium)"
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote:
> But you are losing water faster than you are losing salt, because salt
> is very hypotonic as compared with body fluids.
When I said take salt I meant with water replenishment too.
The normal daily intake of salt is about 2-4 g per day roughly
equivalent to a teaspoonful of salt. To maintain
a proper balance, water input should equal water output,
and salt input should equal output. So if you sweat
only a liter or two per day you need that much water, the
salt balance will probably be maintained through one's
normal diet. One probably just automatically salts one food
more. In the current heat wave in Paris, sedentary people
like yourself will get enough salt replacement
HOWEVER, in a high evaporation situation when one is sweating
off 8 liters of water a day, the salt deficit will be important.
With athletes, who lose water in running, the situation
can produce a low sodium level. Basically it is easier
to drink water than to replenish salt during a competition.
"A study was performed on 36 athletes during a three- to four- hour
triathlon and 64 athletes at an ironman race, which lasts between nine and
15 hours. No athletes were sodium deficient after the shorter race, but 27%
were sodium deficient (hyponatremic) following the ironman heat. An average
of 17% of the ironman participants required medical attention, most for
hyponatremia (low or diluted serum sodium)"
Jul 24th 2006 | 1:49 am
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Mxsmanic wrote:
> dgs writes:
>
>>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
>
> Yes, that's what I said.
No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
(not said):
"Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
water that can assist in rehydration."
Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
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dgs
> dgs writes:
>
>>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
>
> Yes, that's what I said.
No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
(not said):
"Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
water that can assist in rehydration."
Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
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dgs
Jul 24th 2006 | 1:58 am
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 06:49:36 -0700, dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> dgs writes:
>>
>>>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
>>
>> Yes, that's what I said.
>No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
>context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
>(not said):
>"Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
>water that can assist in rehydration."
>Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
Lack of alcohol in his water?
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Martin
>Mxsmanic wrote:
>> dgs writes:
>>
>>>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
>>
>> Yes, that's what I said.
>No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
>context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
>(not said):
>"Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
>water that can assist in rehydration."
>Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
Lack of alcohol in his water?
--
Martin
Jul 24th 2006 | 2:40 am
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Following up to Padraig Breathnach
> Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
>wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
In spite of my nordic and scots hereditary, I usually have a
rugged tanned look in the summer. However I noticed that after
getting a little burned early in the season (sitting in a pub!)
on the face, I noted a couple of bumps came up, which dont appear
to be a problem and are fading away. However I am coming round to
the idea that in maturity, rugged outdoor types like ourselves
should use a little blocker.
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> Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
>wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
In spite of my nordic and scots hereditary, I usually have a
rugged tanned look in the summer. However I noticed that after
getting a little burned early in the season (sitting in a pub!)
on the face, I noted a couple of bumps came up, which dont appear
to be a problem and are fading away. However I am coming round to
the idea that in maturity, rugged outdoor types like ourselves
should use a little blocker.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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Jul 24th 2006 | 2:40 am
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Following up to dgs
>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
Isn't numbnuts copyright to DH? Is it iin general use?
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>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
Isn't numbnuts copyright to DH? Is it iin general use?
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Jul 24th 2006 | 2:40 am
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Following up to David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy
of city south and deansgate
>I resemble that remark. There's nothing worse than forgetting you've
>eaten them the next day!
except remembering you didnt!
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of city south and deansgate
>I resemble that remark. There's nothing worse than forgetting you've
>eaten them the next day!
except remembering you didnt!
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Jul 24th 2006 | 4:19 am
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dgs writes:
> > dgs writes:
> >
> >>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
> >
> > Yes, that's what I said.
>
> No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
> context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
> (not said):
>
> "Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
> water that can assist in rehydration."
Yes, that's what I said. Alcohol is not a form of water.
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> > dgs writes:
> >
> >>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
> >
> > Yes, that's what I said.
>
> No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
> context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
> (not said):
>
> "Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
> water that can assist in rehydration."
Yes, that's what I said. Alcohol is not a form of water.
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Jul 24th 2006 | 4:23 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>> Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
>>wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
>In spite of my nordic and scots hereditary, I usually have a
>rugged tanned look in the summer. However I noticed that after
>getting a little burned early in the season (sitting in a pub!)
>on the face, I noted a couple of bumps came up, which dont appear
>to be a problem and are fading away. However I am coming round to
>the idea that in maturity, rugged outdoor types like ourselves
>should use a little blocker.
Well, I use buildings, trees, hills, awnings, and suchlike -- anything
that casts a shadow. I'm planning to die of extreme old age.
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>Following up to Padraig Breathnach
>> Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
>>wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
>In spite of my nordic and scots hereditary, I usually have a
>rugged tanned look in the summer. However I noticed that after
>getting a little burned early in the season (sitting in a pub!)
>on the face, I noted a couple of bumps came up, which dont appear
>to be a problem and are fading away. However I am coming round to
>the idea that in maturity, rugged outdoor types like ourselves
>should use a little blocker.
Well, I use buildings, trees, hills, awnings, and suchlike -- anything
that casts a shadow. I'm planning to die of extreme old age.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Jul 24th 2006 | 7:45 am
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dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>
> > dgs writes:
> >
> >>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
> >
> > Yes, that's what I said.
>
> No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
> context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
> (not said):
>
> "Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
> water that can assist in rehydration."
>
> Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
Hey-I thought numbnuts was what _I_ called him? :)
Tell him to piss off while you're at it! :)
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> Mxsmanic wrote:
>
> > dgs writes:
> >
> >>Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
> >
> > Yes, that's what I said.
>
> No, you didn't, you lying asshole, but of course you clipped the
> context like you typically do. Here's what you actually wrote
> (not said):
>
> "Alcohol causes dehydration and itself is not a form of
> water that can assist in rehydration."
>
> Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
Hey-I thought numbnuts was what _I_ called him? :)
Tell him to piss off while you're at it! :)
--
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
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Jul 24th 2006 | 7:46 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> Following up to dgs
>
> >Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
>
> Isn't numbnuts copyright to DH? Is it iin general use?
I only use it because someone called _me_ that on Usenet a long time
ago! :)
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> Following up to dgs
>
> >Alcohol isn't a form of water at all, numbnuts.
>
> Isn't numbnuts copyright to DH? Is it iin general use?
I only use it because someone called _me_ that on Usenet a long time
ago! :)
--
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Jul 24th 2006 | 8:16 am
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
deansgate wrote:
> dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[...]
>>Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
>
> Hey-I thought numbnuts was what _I_ called him? :)
I was thinking that 'numbnuts' was under some sort of GPL, open source
and all that.
> Tell him to piss off while you're at it! :)
With pleasure :-)
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dgs
deansgate wrote:
> dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[...]
>>Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
>
> Hey-I thought numbnuts was what _I_ called him? :)
I was thinking that 'numbnuts' was under some sort of GPL, open source
and all that.
> Tell him to piss off while you're at it! :)
With pleasure :-)
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Jul 24th 2006 | 8:18 am
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dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
> deansgate wrote:
>
> > dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>[...]
> >>Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
> >
> > Hey-I thought numbnuts was what _I_ called him? :)
>
> I was thinking that 'numbnuts' was under some sort of GPL, open source
> and all that.
It's a southern estuarian western upper fifth tone (TM) for "you're an
idiot, Mixi."
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> David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the royal duchy of city south and
> deansgate wrote:
>
> > dgs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>[...]
> >>Why are you such a dishonest jerk, numbnuts?
> >
> > Hey-I thought numbnuts was what _I_ called him? :)
>
> I was thinking that 'numbnuts' was under some sort of GPL, open source
> and all that.
It's a southern estuarian western upper fifth tone (TM) for "you're an
idiot, Mixi."
--
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Jul 24th 2006 | 8:03 pm
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Following up to Padraig Breathnach
> However I am coming round to
>>the idea that in maturity, rugged outdoor types like ourselves
>>should use a little blocker.
>Well, I use buildings, trees, hills, awnings, and suchlike -- anything
>that casts a shadow.
Being the rugged hillwalker type, as well as the codger with an
allotment, I find that difficult sometimes.
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> However I am coming round to
>>the idea that in maturity, rugged outdoor types like ourselves
>>should use a little blocker.
>Well, I use buildings, trees, hills, awnings, and suchlike -- anything
>that casts a shadow.
Being the rugged hillwalker type, as well as the codger with an
allotment, I find that difficult sometimes.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
