La canicule
Jul 23rd 2006 | 12:52 am
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La canicule
We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
over 35C.
Strategy
1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
get air-conditioned bedrooms.
4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
two or three showers each day.
5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
perspiration (Herself).
We did not sicken or die.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
over 35C.
Strategy
1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
get air-conditioned bedrooms.
4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
two or three showers each day.
5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
perspiration (Herself).
We did not sicken or die.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Jul 23rd 2006 | 1:38 am
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Re: La canicule
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:52:33 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
...
... We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
... generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
... over 35C.
We are having 38°C this Wednesday. Be happy you are away from here. I wish I was visiting
the Greenland right now...
... Strategy
... 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
... wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
... 2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
... and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
... happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
... 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
... was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
... get air-conditioned bedrooms.
... 4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
... two or three showers each day.
... 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
... day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
... three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
... 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
... normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
... perspiration (Herself).
...
... We did not sicken or die.
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
...
... We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
... generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
... over 35C.
We are having 38°C this Wednesday. Be happy you are away from here. I wish I was visiting
the Greenland right now...
... Strategy
... 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
... wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
... 2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
... and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
... happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
... 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
... was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
... get air-conditioned bedrooms.
... 4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
... two or three showers each day.
... 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
... day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
... three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
... 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
... normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
... perspiration (Herself).
...
... We did not sicken or die.
Jul 23rd 2006 | 1:45 am
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Message de ~* Magda ~*:
> We are having 38°C this Wednesday. Be happy you are away from here. I
> wish I was visiting the Greenland right now...
During the heatwave of August 2003, even hiking at 3000 meters did not
bring any fresh air.
So my girlfriend and I we literally fled from central Europe to Norway.
It was a very effective move: in 7 days we had 6 days of rain :)
--
Philippe Noth, Clarens/Montreux, Switzerland
> We are having 38°C this Wednesday. Be happy you are away from here. I
> wish I was visiting the Greenland right now...
During the heatwave of August 2003, even hiking at 3000 meters did not
bring any fresh air.
So my girlfriend and I we literally fled from central Europe to Norway.
It was a very effective move: in 7 days we had 6 days of rain :)
--
Philippe Noth, Clarens/Montreux, Switzerland
Jul 23rd 2006 | 1:45 am
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Padraig Breathnach writes:
> Strategy
> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
This is fine for preventing sun damage to skin, but it is uncorrelated
with heat.
> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
> perspiration (Herself).
Generally true.
> We did not sicken or die.
Over time you may find that hot weather is extremely exhausting; some
of the effect are cumulative if you don't have regular access to a
cooled environment.
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> Strategy
> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
This is fine for preventing sun damage to skin, but it is uncorrelated
with heat.
> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
> perspiration (Herself).
Generally true.
> We did not sicken or die.
Over time you may find that hot weather is extremely exhausting; some
of the effect are cumulative if you don't have regular access to a
cooled environment.
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Jul 23rd 2006 | 2:21 am
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Utterly breathtaking !
But (very) remotely on topic, so I will not say more.
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: [email protected]...
> We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
> We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
> generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
> over 35C.
> Strategy
> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
> 2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
> and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
> happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
> 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
> was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
> get air-conditioned bedrooms.
> 4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
> two or three showers each day.
> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
> perspiration (Herself).
> We did not sicken or die.
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
> My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
But (very) remotely on topic, so I will not say more.
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
news: [email protected]...
> We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
> We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
> generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
> over 35C.
> Strategy
> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
> 2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
> and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
> happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
> 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
> was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
> get air-conditioned bedrooms.
> 4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
> two or three showers each day.
> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
> perspiration (Herself).
> We did not sicken or die.
> --
> PB
> The return address has been MUNGED
> My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Jul 23rd 2006 | 2:58 am
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"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
> We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
> generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
> over 35C.
> Strategy
> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
This doesn't really help for the temperature but to others you actually do
look cooler and by contrast they feel hotter!
> 2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
> and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
> happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
> 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
> was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
> get air-conditioned bedrooms.
Here in Perth (Australia) we have AVERAGE maximum temperatures in December
27.4C, January 29.7C, February 30.0C and March 28.0C so we do have some very
hot weather in our summer. When you have many days in row that are very hot
you appreciate airconditioned comfort all the more. Even our moderatly
priced motels have airconditioning or they wouldn't get any customers.
> 4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
> two or three showers each day.
> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
As mxsmanic said elsewhere you can lose a lot more fluid than that on a hot
day. On top of that alchohol and caffiene nullify the intake of fluids so
you probably really only took in the equivakent of two litres on that day.
> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
> perspiration (Herself).
Not if you sweat/perspire a real lot.
> We did not sicken or die.
May I suggest you were very lucky. :-)
Gerrit - Oz
news:[email protected]...
> We survived it with no great difficulty but a little discomfort.
> We neither of us like high temperatures. Anything over about 25C is
> generally too much for us and in the Loire Valley last week it got
> over 35C.
> Strategy
> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
This doesn't really help for the temperature but to others you actually do
look cooler and by contrast they feel hotter!
> 2. We flitted from shadow to shadow. Wooded parks, medieval streets,
> and café canopies were useful out of doors; indoor tourism generally
> happens in the shade, but some buildings were uncomfortably hot.
> 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
> was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
> get air-conditioned bedrooms.
Here in Perth (Australia) we have AVERAGE maximum temperatures in December
27.4C, January 29.7C, February 30.0C and March 28.0C so we do have some very
hot weather in our summer. When you have many days in row that are very hot
you appreciate airconditioned comfort all the more. Even our moderatly
priced motels have airconditioning or they wouldn't get any customers.
> 4. I am at least three weeks ahead of schedule with personal hygiene:
> two or three showers each day.
> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
As mxsmanic said elsewhere you can lose a lot more fluid than that on a hot
day. On top of that alchohol and caffiene nullify the intake of fluids so
you probably really only took in the equivakent of two litres on that day.
> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
> perspiration (Herself).
Not if you sweat/perspire a real lot.
> We did not sicken or die.
May I suggest you were very lucky. :-)
Gerrit - Oz
Jul 23rd 2006 | 3:29 am
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach writes:
>> Strategy
>> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
>> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
>This is fine for preventing sun damage to skin, but it is uncorrelated
>with heat.
We know that. While skin damage due to sunlight might not kill as
rapidly, it is still a safety issue.
>> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
>> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
>> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
>It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
I can't imagine that happening to me in the temperatures we were
experiencing. I'm pretty sure that I had no net loss of liquid.
>> We did not sicken or die.
>Over time you may find that hot weather is extremely exhausting; some
>of the effect are cumulative if you don't have regular access to a
>cooled environment.
I don't need much time to find hot weather exhausting; I feel as if
the energy is falling from the tips of my fingers. So I move slowly,
and don't undertake anything too taxing.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
>Padraig Breathnach writes:
>> Strategy
>> 1. Herself, who is fair-skinned, used a high factor sun blocker and
>> wore a wide-brimmed hat; with my skin type, I didn't bother.
>This is fine for preventing sun damage to skin, but it is uncorrelated
>with heat.
We know that. While skin damage due to sunlight might not kill as
rapidly, it is still a safety issue.
>> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
>> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
>> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
>It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
I can't imagine that happening to me in the temperatures we were
experiencing. I'm pretty sure that I had no net loss of liquid.
>> We did not sicken or die.
>Over time you may find that hot weather is extremely exhausting; some
>of the effect are cumulative if you don't have regular access to a
>cooled environment.
I don't need much time to find hot weather exhausting; I feel as if
the energy is falling from the tips of my fingers. So I move slowly,
and don't undertake anything too taxing.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Jul 23rd 2006 | 3:50 am
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"Gerrit 't Hart" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
>> was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
>> get air-conditioned bedrooms.
>Here in Perth (Australia) we have AVERAGE maximum temperatures in December
>27.4C, January 29.7C, February 30.0C and March 28.0C so we do have some very
>hot weather in our summer. When you have many days in row that are very hot
>you appreciate airconditioned comfort all the more. Even our moderatly
>priced motels have airconditioning or they wouldn't get any customers.
Oz is on our list of places to visit (the off-topic police will be
along soon to reprove me for saying that). I'll make to go sure during
our summer rather than yours.
In the northern part of France, air-conditioning is not needed very
much. Most years it is not needed at all.
>> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
>> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
>> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
>As mxsmanic said elsewhere you can lose a lot more fluid than that on a hot
>day. On top of that alchohol and caffiene nullify the intake of fluids so
>you probably really only took in the equivakent of two litres on that day.
I know in a general way about the effects of alcohol, caffeine, and
tannin, which is why I offered the details.
>> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
>> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
>> perspiration (Herself).
>Not if you sweat/perspire a real lot.
It's very hard to measure, or even have much idea about, that if the
humidity is low. I'm fairly sure that we didn't sweat much more than
in normal summer temperatures because we were careful not to be very
active.
>> We did not sicken or die.
>May I suggest you were very lucky. :-)
There is luck involved in most human activities, but I think we also
exercised some prudence. There is a balance to find between excessive
caution and recklessness.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
>"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> 3. Most of our main meals were taken in air-conditioned rooms, which
>> was pleasant. As we used modestly-priced hotels, we did not expect or
>> get air-conditioned bedrooms.
>Here in Perth (Australia) we have AVERAGE maximum temperatures in December
>27.4C, January 29.7C, February 30.0C and March 28.0C so we do have some very
>hot weather in our summer. When you have many days in row that are very hot
>you appreciate airconditioned comfort all the more. Even our moderatly
>priced motels have airconditioning or they wouldn't get any customers.
Oz is on our list of places to visit (the off-topic police will be
along soon to reprove me for saying that). I'll make to go sure during
our summer rather than yours.
In the northern part of France, air-conditioning is not needed very
much. Most years it is not needed at all.
>> 5. We drank large amounts of liquid. I reckoned up my consumption one
>> day, and I took four litres. That included a small volume of coffee,
>> three beers, and about half a litre of wine; all the rest was water.
>As mxsmanic said elsewhere you can lose a lot more fluid than that on a hot
>day. On top of that alchohol and caffiene nullify the intake of fluids so
>you probably really only took in the equivakent of two litres on that day.
I know in a general way about the effects of alcohol, caffeine, and
tannin, which is why I offered the details.
>> 6. We were not concerned about chemical balance, trusting that a
>> normal diet would replace whatever we lost through sweat (me) or
>> perspiration (Herself).
>Not if you sweat/perspire a real lot.
It's very hard to measure, or even have much idea about, that if the
humidity is low. I'm fairly sure that we didn't sweat much more than
in normal summer temperatures because we were careful not to be very
active.
>> We did not sicken or die.
>May I suggest you were very lucky. :-)
There is luck involved in most human activities, but I think we also
exercised some prudence. There is a balance to find between excessive
caution and recklessness.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Jul 23rd 2006 | 4:08 am
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Padraig Breathnach writes:
> In the northern part of France, air-conditioning is not needed very
> much. Most years it is not needed at all.
True in the past, but that has changed.
> It's very hard to measure, or even have much idea about, that if the
> humidity is low. I'm fairly sure that we didn't sweat much more than
> in normal summer temperatures because we were careful not to be very
> active.
Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
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> In the northern part of France, air-conditioning is not needed very
> much. Most years it is not needed at all.
True in the past, but that has changed.
> It's very hard to measure, or even have much idea about, that if the
> humidity is low. I'm fairly sure that we didn't sweat much more than
> in normal summer temperatures because we were careful not to be very
> active.
Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
--
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Jul 23rd 2006 | 4:38 am
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Re: La canicule
On 23/07/06 17:29, in article [email protected],
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
>>
> I can't imagine that happening to me in the temperatures we were
> experiencing. I'm pretty sure that I had no net loss of liquid.
This kind of loss occurs in the desert at high temperatures.
Death will occur within the day unless one has no water to drink
if one is trying to walk to help if one's car is stalled on a
remote road in Arizona.
If one is exercising even more. When I played college football
in the 50s the coaches thought it was bad for drink water during
the training session. It was not unusually to lose more than 5 pounds
of weight in a 2 hours. One summer I dug ditches in the hot
California sun, and one need both lots of water and salt tablets.
So a liter an hour is not out of question. However, just sitting
at one's job does not involve that kind of loss.
"Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
>>
> I can't imagine that happening to me in the temperatures we were
> experiencing. I'm pretty sure that I had no net loss of liquid.
This kind of loss occurs in the desert at high temperatures.
Death will occur within the day unless one has no water to drink
if one is trying to walk to help if one's car is stalled on a
remote road in Arizona.
If one is exercising even more. When I played college football
in the 50s the coaches thought it was bad for drink water during
the training session. It was not unusually to lose more than 5 pounds
of weight in a 2 hours. One summer I dug ditches in the hot
California sun, and one need both lots of water and salt tablets.
So a liter an hour is not out of question. However, just sitting
at one's job does not involve that kind of loss.
Jul 23rd 2006 | 4:59 am
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I, I, I....The story of his life again.
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
C0E972B0.B11FA%[email protected]...
> On 23/07/06 17:29, in article [email protected],
> "Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
>> I can't imagine that happening to me in the temperatures we were
>> experiencing. I'm pretty sure that I had no net loss of liquid.
> This kind of loss occurs in the desert at high temperatures.
> Death will occur within the day unless one has no water to drink
> if one is trying to walk to help if one's car is stalled on a
> remote road in Arizona.
> If one is exercising even more. When I played college football
> in the 50s the coaches thought it was bad for drink water during
> the training session. It was not unusually to lose more than 5 pounds
> of weight in a 2 hours. One summer I dug ditches in the hot
> California sun, and one need both lots of water and salt tablets.
> So a liter an hour is not out of question. However, just sitting
> at one's job does not involve that kind of loss.
>
"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
C0E972B0.B11FA%[email protected]...
> On 23/07/06 17:29, in article [email protected],
> "Padraig Breathnach" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It very hot weather, it's possible to lose a litre per hour or more.
>> I can't imagine that happening to me in the temperatures we were
>> experiencing. I'm pretty sure that I had no net loss of liquid.
> This kind of loss occurs in the desert at high temperatures.
> Death will occur within the day unless one has no water to drink
> if one is trying to walk to help if one's car is stalled on a
> remote road in Arizona.
> If one is exercising even more. When I played college football
> in the 50s the coaches thought it was bad for drink water during
> the training session. It was not unusually to lose more than 5 pounds
> of weight in a 2 hours. One summer I dug ditches in the hot
> California sun, and one need both lots of water and salt tablets.
> So a liter an hour is not out of question. However, just sitting
> at one's job does not involve that kind of loss.
>
Jul 23rd 2006 | 5:16 am
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
> hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
Yet another subject where Mixi is an expert. Would drinking copius
quantities of Guinness or Murphys disguise any symptoms?
JohnT
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> Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
> hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
Yet another subject where Mixi is an expert. Would drinking copius
quantities of Guinness or Murphys disguise any symptoms?
JohnT
Jul 23rd 2006 | 5:21 am
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Earl Evleth writes:
> When I played college football
> in the 50s the coaches thought it was bad for drink water during
> the training session.
That's another bizarre superstition that I've never understood. I've
encountered coaches (in Arizona, no less) who believe the same thing.
This type of ignorance is extremely dangerous.
> One summer I dug ditches in the hot
> California sun, and one need both lots of water and salt tablets.
One needs water and food. Salt tablets are not generally a good idea.
> So a liter an hour is not out of question. However, just sitting
> at one's job does not involve that kind of loss.
If it is hot and humid with no air movement, it can come close.
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> When I played college football
> in the 50s the coaches thought it was bad for drink water during
> the training session.
That's another bizarre superstition that I've never understood. I've
encountered coaches (in Arizona, no less) who believe the same thing.
This type of ignorance is extremely dangerous.
> One summer I dug ditches in the hot
> California sun, and one need both lots of water and salt tablets.
One needs water and food. Salt tablets are not generally a good idea.
> So a liter an hour is not out of question. However, just sitting
> at one's job does not involve that kind of loss.
If it is hot and humid with no air movement, it can come close.
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Jul 23rd 2006 | 5:26 am
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:16:45 +0100, "JohnT"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
>> hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
Even after eating beetroots?
>Yet another subject where Mixi is an expert. Would drinking copius
>quantities of Guinness or Murphys disguise any symptoms?
I think he is taking the piss.
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Martin
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>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
>> hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
Even after eating beetroots?
>Yet another subject where Mixi is an expert. Would drinking copius
>quantities of Guinness or Murphys disguise any symptoms?
I think he is taking the piss.
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Martin
Jul 23rd 2006 | 5:53 am
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:08:45 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach writes:
>> It's very hard to measure, or even have much idea about, that if the
>> humidity is low. I'm fairly sure that we didn't sweat much more than
>> in normal summer temperatures because we were careful not to be very
>> active.
>Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
>hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
You can die from the heat in 3 or 4 hours, so the test is poor.
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wrote:
>Padraig Breathnach writes:
>> It's very hard to measure, or even have much idea about, that if the
>> humidity is low. I'm fairly sure that we didn't sweat much more than
>> in normal summer temperatures because we were careful not to be very
>> active.
>Watch your urine output. You should have a full bladder every 3-4
>hours at least, and the urine should not be brightly colored.
You can die from the heat in 3 or 4 hours, so the test is poor.
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