In article , [email protected]
(Miss L.Toe) wrote:

    > I think Great imlies something much more significant
    > than a
    > slightly different atmosphere and/or one site of interest outside the
    > city
    > limits

Absolutely: they should be cities which offer *several* unique (or
close-to-unique) things of interest and great significance
(cultural/historical/geographical/whatever), which also have a clear,
strong, non-transient identity and reputation as a city. The kind of
places of which everybody has a strong mental picture, even if they've
never visited.

So my, possibly rather predictable, short list would include:

Amsterdam
Athens
Barcelona
Berlin
Dublin
Edinburgh
Florence
Istanbul
London
Moscow
Naples
Paris
Prague
Rome
Seville
St. Petersburg
Venice
Vienna

Mike Reid writes:
    > Another amusing thing is "Paris, France" itself or "London, England"
    > as if they are not the ones you would assume first.rather than Paris,
    > Illinois or London, Ontario. Well I say its amusung, perhaps amuses me
    > would be better ...

Yes, I think it would. In a worldwide newsgroup, it's always best to
avoid terms that some people will misinterpret, and there really are
people for whom "London", for example, would primarily mean the one
in Ontario. For me, 120 miles away from there, it could mean either
one, depending on context; if I went to my local Air Canada office and
asked for a ticket to London, they should ask me which one, because
flights to both are available from Toronto.

Of course, in a newsgroup *devoted to European travel*, and especially
in the context of great cities of Europe, I think it's safe to mention
London or Paris without qualification. But even then, it does no harm
to mention the country, and it might help readers doing some kind of
search by country name to find your posting.

Just for amusement, since it only involves US travel, look at the bit
titled "detoured" on the following page (rejoin URL if necessary):

http://www.golfdigest.com/newsandtou...418bunker.html
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "It is one thing to praise discipline, and another
[email protected] | to submit to it." -- Miguel de Cervantes, 1613

My text in this article is in the public domain.

Following up to Mark Brader

    >Yes, I think it would. In a worldwide newsgroup, it's always best to
    >avoid terms that some people will misinterpret, and there really are
    >people for whom "London", for example, would primarily mean the one
    >in Ontario. For me, 120 miles away from there, it could mean either
    >one, depending on context; if I went to my local Air Canada office and
    >asked for a ticket to London, they should ask me which one, because
    >flights to both are available from Toronto.

I can see that in proximity of your London its an issue, probably
within the US its an issue, outside of the US it appears amusing!

I didnt know there were so many Augustas, but if you knew the Sun
"newspaper" you would not be surprised at anything their "journalists"
might do :-)
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Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Fellwalking, photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)

On Wed, 14 May 2003 09:53:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, The Reid
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Following up to Mark Brader
...
... >Yes, I think it would. In a worldwide newsgroup, it's always best to
... >avoid terms that some people will misinterpret, and there really are
... >people for whom "London", for example, would primarily mean the one
... >in Ontario. For me, 120 miles away from there, it could mean either
... >one, depending on context; if I went to my local Air Canada office and
... >asked for a ticket to London, they should ask me which one, because
... >flights to both are available from Toronto.
...
... I can see that in proximity of your London its an issue, probably
... within the US its an issue, outside of the US it appears amusing!

To say "proximity" about something 180 Km away is downright hilarious.

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"Wealth I ask not, hope nor love, nor a friend to know me;
All I ask, the heaven above and the road below me."

Robert Louis Stevenson

    > one place where the opposite applies is "Santiago" said on its own! At
    > least a dozen places + the San Diegos and the odd St James if you want
    > to push it!

Ok, lots of places that go by that name. Still, my first thought would be
"Chile".

R

Following up to Magda

    > ... I can see that in proximity of your London its an issue, probably
    > ... within the US its an issue, outside of the US it appears amusing!
    >To say "proximity" about something 180 Km away is downright hilarious.

In Europe yes, not so sure in US.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Fellwalking, photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)

On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:15:26 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, The Reid
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Following up to Magda
...
... > ... I can see that in proximity of your London its an issue, probably
... > ... within the US its an issue, outside of the US it appears amusing!
... >
... >To say "proximity" about something 180 Km away is downright hilarious.
...
... In Europe yes, not so sure in US.

Europe is bigger than a matchbox too, you know.

=====
"Wealth I ask not, hope nor love, nor a friend to know me;
All I ask, the heaven above and the road below me."

Robert Louis Stevenson

Following up to Magda

    > ... >To say "proximity" about something 180 Km away is downright hilarious.
    > ...
    > ... In Europe yes, not so sure in US.
    >Europe is bigger than a matchbox too, you know.

Sometimes I wonder, when I 'm looking for a parking space.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Fellwalking, photos, London & the Thames path "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
Spain, food and walking "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" (see web for email)