Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Jul 30th 2004, 3:10 pm
#91
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:31:05 +0100, Jan wrote:
>
> > Tim Challenger wrote:
> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
> >>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >>>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>>> Following up to Jen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> >>>>>> geography known as Europe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> >>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> >>>>> physical geography they are african.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> >>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Mike Reid
> >>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> >>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> >>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> >>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> >>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> >>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> >>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> >>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> >>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
> >>>> or official documents.
> >>>
> >>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
> >>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Jan
> >>
> >> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
> >
> > You need to read my earlier post ;-)
> >
> > Jan
>
> Yes I got it.
Isn't cyprus a part of Greece?? My friend is living there right now,
it's a mix of European and Middle Eastern influence. They speak
english and greek there.
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:31:05 +0100, Jan wrote:
>
> > Tim Challenger wrote:
> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
> >>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> >>>> news:[email protected]...
> >>>>> Following up to Jen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> >>>>>> geography known as Europe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> >>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> >>>>> physical geography they are african.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> >>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Mike Reid
> >>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> >>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> >>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> >>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> >>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> >>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> >>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> >>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> >>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
> >>>> or official documents.
> >>>
> >>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
> >>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Jan
> >>
> >> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
> >
> > You need to read my earlier post ;-)
> >
> > Jan
>
> Yes I got it.
Isn't cyprus a part of Greece?? My friend is living there right now,
it's a mix of European and Middle Eastern influence. They speak
english and greek there.
Jul 30th 2004, 11:10 pm
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
"Greece04" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:31:05 +0100, Jan wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Challenger wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > >>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>> news:[email protected]...
> > >>>>> Following up to Jen
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> > >>>>>> geography known as Europe
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> > >>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> > >>>>> physical geography they are african.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> > >>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Mike Reid
> > >>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> > >>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> > >>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> > >>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> > >>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> > >>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> > >>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> > >>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> > >>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in
treaties
> > >>>> or official documents.
> > >>>
> > >>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
> > >>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Jan
> > >>
> > >> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
> > >
> > > You need to read my earlier post ;-)
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > Yes I got it.
> Isn't cyprus a part of Greece?? My friend is living there right now,
> it's a mix of European and Middle Eastern influence. They speak
> english and greek there.
Is the USA in Europe, therefore?
Surreyman
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> Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:31:05 +0100, Jan wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Challenger wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > >>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > >>>> news:[email protected]...
> > >>>>> Following up to Jen
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> > >>>>>> geography known as Europe
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> > >>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> > >>>>> physical geography they are african.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> > >>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Mike Reid
> > >>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> > >>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> > >>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> > >>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> > >>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> > >>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> > >>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> > >>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> > >>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in
treaties
> > >>>> or official documents.
> > >>>
> > >>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
> > >>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Jan
> > >>
> > >> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
> > >
> > > You need to read my earlier post ;-)
> > >
> > > Jan
> >
> > Yes I got it.
> Isn't cyprus a part of Greece?? My friend is living there right now,
> it's a mix of European and Middle Eastern influence. They speak
> english and greek there.
Is the USA in Europe, therefore?
Surreyman
Aug 2nd 2004, 10:41 pm
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
[email protected] (meurgues) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
> Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]> ...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:24:28 GMT, devil wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> > >>> Following up to Jen
> > >>>
> > >>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
> > >>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
> > >>> Europe?
> > >>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
> > >>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
> > >>
> > >> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
> > >> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> > >> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> > >> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> > >> other possessions).
> > >
> > > Ah, colonies.
>
> The word colonie is not used anymore in french intitutions probably at
> least since 1946 and I didn't used the 3 only french instituonal
> expressions because you would not have understood DOM, TOM and CTOM or
> because it was too long to write them in full "départements d'outre
> mer, territoires d'outre mer et collectivités territoriales d'outre
> mer" : DOM (Guadeloupe, Réunion, Martinique, Guyane and dependencie
> with St Barthelemy and half of St Martin), TOM (Polynésie, Nouvelle
> Calédonie, Wallis et Futuna, and TAAF Terres Australes et Antartique
> Françaises (St Paul & Amsterdam, Crozet, Kerguelen and Terre Adélie)
> and the smallest CTOM (St Pierre et Miquelon and Mayotte)" The
> "inhabited" ones (Clipperton, Glorieuses, Bassas da India, Juan de
> Nova, Europa and Tromelin are consideres as TOM.
> At the difference of the 4 french overseas departments wich can't be
> institutionaly separated from the metropolitan ones with which they
> share exactly the same institutions (like Hawai for the US), the
> french TOM use special currencies, not the euro. I was just wondering
> if it was the same in spanish Ceuta and Melilla.
I forgot that the constitutional law 2003-276 recently modified the
french constitution on this point. If I've well "understood",
according to law 2004-192 that I didn't read, they are now called :
COM, DOM, POM & TOM ! P = pays is new.
I made a confusion between Cape Verde and Açores too...
> didier Meurgues
>
> > I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
> > ;-)
> Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]> ...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:24:28 GMT, devil wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
> > >>> Following up to Jen
> > >>>
> > >>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
> > >>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
> > >>> Europe?
> > >>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
> > >>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
> > >>
> > >> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
> > >> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> > >> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> > >> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> > >> other possessions).
> > >
> > > Ah, colonies.
>
> The word colonie is not used anymore in french intitutions probably at
> least since 1946 and I didn't used the 3 only french instituonal
> expressions because you would not have understood DOM, TOM and CTOM or
> because it was too long to write them in full "départements d'outre
> mer, territoires d'outre mer et collectivités territoriales d'outre
> mer" : DOM (Guadeloupe, Réunion, Martinique, Guyane and dependencie
> with St Barthelemy and half of St Martin), TOM (Polynésie, Nouvelle
> Calédonie, Wallis et Futuna, and TAAF Terres Australes et Antartique
> Françaises (St Paul & Amsterdam, Crozet, Kerguelen and Terre Adélie)
> and the smallest CTOM (St Pierre et Miquelon and Mayotte)" The
> "inhabited" ones (Clipperton, Glorieuses, Bassas da India, Juan de
> Nova, Europa and Tromelin are consideres as TOM.
> At the difference of the 4 french overseas departments wich can't be
> institutionaly separated from the metropolitan ones with which they
> share exactly the same institutions (like Hawai for the US), the
> french TOM use special currencies, not the euro. I was just wondering
> if it was the same in spanish Ceuta and Melilla.
I forgot that the constitutional law 2003-276 recently modified the
french constitution on this point. If I've well "understood",
according to law 2004-192 that I didn't read, they are now called :
COM, DOM, POM & TOM ! P = pays is new.
I made a confusion between Cape Verde and Açores too...
> didier Meurgues
>
> > I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
> > ;-)
Aug 5th 2004, 6:21 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Iraq, and the Arab world in general, are in western Asia.
zemedelec
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Aug 5th 2004, 6:48 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Zemedelec <[email protected]> wrote:
> Iraq, and the Arab world in general, are in western Asia.
Most Arabs live in Africa.
Substantial majorities of Egypt (70m), Algeria (32m), Morocco
(31m), Tunisia (9m), Libya (5m)
vs.
Substantial majorities of Iraq (24m), Saudi (23m), Yemen (19m), Syria (17m),
Jordan (5m)
miguel
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> Iraq, and the Arab world in general, are in western Asia.
Most Arabs live in Africa.
Substantial majorities of Egypt (70m), Algeria (32m), Morocco
(31m), Tunisia (9m), Libya (5m)
vs.
Substantial majorities of Iraq (24m), Saudi (23m), Yemen (19m), Syria (17m),
Jordan (5m)
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Aug 12th 2004, 1:27 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
<< Most Arabs live in Africa.
Substantial majorities of Egypt (70m), Algeria (32m), Morocco
(31m), Tunisia (9m), Libya (5m)
vs.
Substantial majorities of Iraq (24m), Saudi (23m), Yemen (19m), Syria (17m),
Jordan (5m)
miguel
Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do with the
amount of arable land???
zemedelec
Substantial majorities of Egypt (70m), Algeria (32m), Morocco
(31m), Tunisia (9m), Libya (5m)
vs.
Substantial majorities of Iraq (24m), Saudi (23m), Yemen (19m), Syria (17m),
Jordan (5m)
miguel
Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do with the
amount of arable land???
zemedelec
Aug 12th 2004, 1:33 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
> Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do with the
> amount of arable land???
> zemedelec
ARABle land??
No pun intended, I hope?
--
Tim C.
> amount of arable land???
> zemedelec
ARABle land??
No pun intended, I hope?
--
Tim C.
Aug 12th 2004, 4:27 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Zemedelec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Most Arabs live in Africa.
>> Substantial majorities of Egypt (70m), Algeria (32m), Morocco
>> (31m), Tunisia (9m), Libya (5m)
>> vs.
>> Substantial majorities of Iraq (24m), Saudi (23m), Yemen (19m), Syria
>> (17m), Jordan (5m)
> Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do
> with the amount of arable land???
No doubt. Also, it was easier to expand into comparatively underpopulated
and disorganized Africa than into the areas to the north and east (Turkey,
Iran, etc.). So they sent religion and culture north and east, and people
southwest.
Prior to the continent's dominance by European colonial powers, Arab
influence was prominent quite far south into Africa.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
>> Most Arabs live in Africa.
>> Substantial majorities of Egypt (70m), Algeria (32m), Morocco
>> (31m), Tunisia (9m), Libya (5m)
>> vs.
>> Substantial majorities of Iraq (24m), Saudi (23m), Yemen (19m), Syria
>> (17m), Jordan (5m)
> Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do
> with the amount of arable land???
No doubt. Also, it was easier to expand into comparatively underpopulated
and disorganized Africa than into the areas to the north and east (Turkey,
Iran, etc.). So they sent religion and culture north and east, and people
southwest.
Prior to the continent's dominance by European colonial powers, Arab
influence was prominent quite far south into Africa.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Aug 12th 2004, 4:55 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:33:49 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do with the
>> amount of arable land???
>> zemedelec
>ARABle land??
>No pun intended, I hope?
the land of pARABles?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for setting me straight, Miguel. Could it have something to do with the
>> amount of arable land???
>> zemedelec
>ARABle land??
>No pun intended, I hope?
the land of pARABles?
Aug 12th 2004, 11:51 pm
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Prior to the continent's dominance by European colonial powers, Arab
> influence was prominent quite far south into Africa.
Oman virtually owned the east coast down to modern-day Mozambique. Arab
slave traders crossed the continent east-west.
Surreyman
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> > Prior to the continent's dominance by European colonial powers, Arab
> influence was prominent quite far south into Africa.
Oman virtually owned the east coast down to modern-day Mozambique. Arab
slave traders crossed the continent east-west.
Surreyman
