Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Jul 21st 2004, 3:24 am
#61
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>> Following up to Jen
>>
>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>> Europe?
>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>
> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> other possessions).
Ah, colonies.
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>> Following up to Jen
>>
>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>> Europe?
>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>
> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> other possessions).
Ah, colonies.
Jul 21st 2004, 3:28 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
On 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>> Following up to Jen
>>
>>>The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
>>>Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
>>>currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
>>>islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
>>>and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
>>>Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
>>>Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
>>>Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
>>>the point.
>>
>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>> Europe?
>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>
> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> other possessions).
The image on the Euro banknotes does not define which countries can or do
use the Euro.
--
Tim C.
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>> Following up to Jen
>>
>>>The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
>>>Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
>>>currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
>>>islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
>>>and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
>>>Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
>>>Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
>>>Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
>>>the point.
>>
>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>> Europe?
>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>
> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> other possessions).
The image on the Euro banknotes does not define which countries can or do
use the Euro.
--
Tim C.
Jul 21st 2004, 3:29 am
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:24:28 GMT, devil wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
>
>> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>>> Following up to Jen
>>>
>>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>>> Europe?
>>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>>
>> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
>> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
>> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
>> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
>> other possessions).
>
> Ah, colonies.
I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
;-)
--
Tim C.
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
>
>> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>>> Following up to Jen
>>>
>>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>>> Europe?
>>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>>
>> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
>> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
>> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
>> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
>> other possessions).
>
> Ah, colonies.
I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
;-)
--
Tim C.
Jul 21st 2004, 3:30 am
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"Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:34:51 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:01:09 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The first problem is that the country needs to be a member of
> >>>> the EU.
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you explain Montenegro using the Euro then?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim C.
> > They,and other countries outside EU using Euros, isn't allowed to be a
> > member of EMU.
> > That means they aren't allowed to issue banknotes and coins in Euro and
have
> > no influence over the economy in the EMU area.
> But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
> obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
> to use the Euro.
No-one can refuse them, as you hardly can refuse a merchant in the street
to accept USD,GBP or anything else.
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:34:51 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:01:09 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The first problem is that the country needs to be a member of
> >>>> the EU.
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you explain Montenegro using the Euro then?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim C.
> > They,and other countries outside EU using Euros, isn't allowed to be a
> > member of EMU.
> > That means they aren't allowed to issue banknotes and coins in Euro and
have
> > no influence over the economy in the EMU area.
> But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
> obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
> to use the Euro.
No-one can refuse them, as you hardly can refuse a merchant in the street
to accept USD,GBP or anything else.
Jul 21st 2004, 3:37 am
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:29:34 +0200, Tim Challenger wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:24:28 GMT, devil wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
>>
>>> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>>>> Following up to Jen
>>>>
>>>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>>>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>>>> Europe?
>>>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>>>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>>>
>>> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
>>> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
>>> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
>>> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
>>> other possessions).
>>
>> Ah, colonies.
>
> I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
> ;-)
Welcome to the beautiful world of political correctness. Even in France,
I guess.
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:24:28 GMT, devil wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
>>
>>> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
>>>> Following up to Jen
>>>>
>>>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
>>>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
>>>> Europe?
>>>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
>>>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>>>
>>> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
>>> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
>>> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
>>> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
>>> other possessions).
>>
>> Ah, colonies.
>
> I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
> ;-)
Welcome to the beautiful world of political correctness. Even in France,
I guess.
Jul 21st 2004, 3:38 am
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"meurgues" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
> > Following up to Jen
> >
> > >The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> > >Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> > >currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
> > >islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
> > >and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
> > >Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
> > >Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
> > >Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> > >the point.
> >
> > Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
> > look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
> > Europe?
> > Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
> > Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ?
Euro, what else ? Ceuta and Melilla are integrated parts of Spain
more or less as Sicily and Sardinia are parts of Italy.
They are not indicated on
> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> other possessions).
Where on the bank notes are Madeira and Canary Islands mentioned ?
And "Green cape", where is that ?
news:[email protected]...
> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
> > Following up to Jen
> >
> > >The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> > >Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> > >currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
> > >islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
> > >and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
> > >Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
> > >Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
> > >Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> > >the point.
> >
> > Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
> > look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
> > Europe?
> > Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
> > Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ?
Euro, what else ? Ceuta and Melilla are integrated parts of Spain
more or less as Sicily and Sardinia are parts of Italy.
They are not indicated on
> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
> other possessions).
Where on the bank notes are Madeira and Canary Islands mentioned ?
And "Green cape", where is that ?
Jul 21st 2004, 4:24 am
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:01:33 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... >
... >> And "Green cape", where is that ?
... >
... >
... I assumed Cape Verde was meant.
... Ex-Portuguese, used their own escudo, so maybe now use their own Euro-linked
... currency?
Cabo Verde.
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
...
... "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... >
... >> And "Green cape", where is that ?
... >
... >
... I assumed Cape Verde was meant.
... Ex-Portuguese, used their own escudo, so maybe now use their own Euro-linked
... currency?
Cabo Verde.
Jul 21st 2004, 4:56 am
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"Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:34:51 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:01:09 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The first problem is that the country needs to be a member of
> >>>> the EU.
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you explain Montenegro using the Euro then?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim C.
> > They,and other countries outside EU using Euros, isn't allowed to be a
> > member of EMU.
> > That means they aren't allowed to issue banknotes and coins in Euro and
have
> > no influence over the economy in the EMU area.
> But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
> obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
> to use the Euro.
Official?
Or just readily accepted?
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:34:51 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:01:09 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:
> >>
> >>>> The first problem is that the country needs to be a member of
> >>>> the EU.
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you explain Montenegro using the Euro then?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tim C.
> > They,and other countries outside EU using Euros, isn't allowed to be a
> > member of EMU.
> > That means they aren't allowed to issue banknotes and coins in Euro and
have
> > no influence over the economy in the EMU area.
> But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
> obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
> to use the Euro.
Official?
Or just readily accepted?
Surreyman
Jul 21st 2004, 5:01 am
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"Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> And "Green cape", where is that ?
I assumed Cape Verde was meant.
Ex-Portuguese, used their own escudo, so maybe now use their own Euro-linked
currency?
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
>> And "Green cape", where is that ?
I assumed Cape Verde was meant.
Ex-Portuguese, used their own escudo, so maybe now use their own Euro-linked
currency?
Surreyman
Jul 21st 2004, 5:37 am
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"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:01:33 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
> ...
> ... "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... >
> ... >> And "Green cape", where is that ?
> ... >
> ... >
> ... I assumed Cape Verde was meant.
> ... Ex-Portuguese, used their own escudo, so maybe now use their own
Euro-linked
> ... currency?
> Cabo Verde.
In English it is, albeit illogically, Cape Verde.
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:01:33 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
> <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
> ...
> ... "Lennart Petersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... >
> ... >> And "Green cape", where is that ?
> ... >
> ... >
> ... I assumed Cape Verde was meant.
> ... Ex-Portuguese, used their own escudo, so maybe now use their own
Euro-linked
> ... currency?
> Cabo Verde.
In English it is, albeit illogically, Cape Verde.
Surreyman
Jul 21st 2004, 8:31 am
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Tim Challenger wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Following up to Jen
>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
>>>>> geography known as Europe
>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
>>>> physical geography they are african.
>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Reid
>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
>>> or official documents.
>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
>> Jan
> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
You need to read my earlier post ;-)
Jan
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Following up to Jen
>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
>>>>> geography known as Europe
>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
>>>> physical geography they are african.
>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Reid
>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
>>> or official documents.
>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
>> Jan
> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
You need to read my earlier post ;-)
Jan
Jul 21st 2004, 8:43 pm
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a.spencer3 wrote:
>
> "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:34:51 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> >
> > > "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:01:09 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> The first problem is that the country needs to be a member of
> > >>>> the EU.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> How do you explain Montenegro using the Euro then?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Tim C.
> > > They,and other countries outside EU using Euros, isn't allowed to be a
> > > member of EMU.
> > > That means they aren't allowed to issue banknotes and coins in Euro and
> have
> > > no influence over the economy in the EMU area.
> >
> > But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
> > obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
> > to use the Euro.
> >
>
> Official?
> Or just readily accepted?
>
> Surreyman
Montenegro currently uses Yugoslavian Dinar.
http://www.banknotes.com/me.htm
What is the unit of money in Serbia-Montenegro?
Currency in Serbia-Montenegro: new Yugoslav dinar (YUM); note - in
Montenegro the euro is legal tender; in Kosovo both the euro and the
Yugoslav dinar are legal (2002)
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/tim...o/currency.htm
Currency: The official currency in Serbia is the New Yugoslav Dinar.
New Yugoslav Dinar (YUM) = 100 paras. Notes are in denominations of
YUM5000, 1000, 200, 100, 50, 20 and 10. Coins are in denominations of
YUM5, 2 and 1 and 50 paras.
The official currency in Montenegro is the Euro. Euro (€) = 100 cents.
Notes are in denominations of €500, 200, 100, 50, 20, 10 and 5. Coins
are in denominations of €2 and 1, and 50, 20, 10, 5, 2 and 1 cents.
http://goeasteurope.about.com/gi/dyn...g%2Fyug050.asp
Currency:
new Yugoslav dinar (YUM); note - in Montenegro the euro is legal tender;
in Kosovo both the euro and the Yugoslav dinar are legal (2002)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/yi.html
BUT then, on the Official Government web page:
CURRENCY:
The legal tender in Serbia is the Dinar and in Montenegro - the Euro.
http://www.gov.yu/start.php?je=e&id=6
/Anders
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>
> "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 13:34:51 GMT, Lennart Petersen wrote:
> >
> > > "Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:01:09 +0100, Miss L. Toe wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> The first problem is that the country needs to be a member of
> > >>>> the EU.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> How do you explain Montenegro using the Euro then?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Tim C.
> > > They,and other countries outside EU using Euros, isn't allowed to be a
> > > member of EMU.
> > > That means they aren't allowed to issue banknotes and coins in Euro and
> have
> > > no influence over the economy in the EMU area.
> >
> > But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
> > obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
> > to use the Euro.
> >
>
> Official?
> Or just readily accepted?
>
> Surreyman
Montenegro currently uses Yugoslavian Dinar.
http://www.banknotes.com/me.htm
What is the unit of money in Serbia-Montenegro?
Currency in Serbia-Montenegro: new Yugoslav dinar (YUM); note - in
Montenegro the euro is legal tender; in Kosovo both the euro and the
Yugoslav dinar are legal (2002)
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/tim...o/currency.htm
Currency: The official currency in Serbia is the New Yugoslav Dinar.
New Yugoslav Dinar (YUM) = 100 paras. Notes are in denominations of
YUM5000, 1000, 200, 100, 50, 20 and 10. Coins are in denominations of
YUM5, 2 and 1 and 50 paras.
The official currency in Montenegro is the Euro. Euro (€) = 100 cents.
Notes are in denominations of €500, 200, 100, 50, 20, 10 and 5. Coins
are in denominations of €2 and 1, and 50, 20, 10, 5, 2 and 1 cents.
http://goeasteurope.about.com/gi/dyn...g%2Fyug050.asp
Currency:
new Yugoslav dinar (YUM); note - in Montenegro the euro is legal tender;
in Kosovo both the euro and the Yugoslav dinar are legal (2002)
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...k/geos/yi.html
BUT then, on the Official Government web page:
CURRENCY:
The legal tender in Serbia is the Dinar and in Montenegro - the Euro.
http://www.gov.yu/start.php?je=e&id=6
/Anders
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Jul 21st 2004, 9:22 pm
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>>> But the Euro is still the official currency of Montenegro. It's blatantly
>>> obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
>>> to use the Euro.
>>
>> Official?
>> Or just readily accepted?
As /Anders says, it's the *official* currency of Montenegro - it took over
from the DM, which was the de-facto and official currency (afaik) before.
At least it was until very recently, and I haven't found anything to say
it's not.
--
Tim C.
>>> obvious that a country *doesn't* have to be in either the EU or in the EMU
>>> to use the Euro.
>>
>> Official?
>> Or just readily accepted?
As /Anders says, it's the *official* currency of Montenegro - it took over
from the DM, which was the de-facto and official currency (afaik) before.
At least it was until very recently, and I haven't found anything to say
it's not.
--
Tim C.
Jul 22nd 2004, 5:00 pm
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
>> whether the earth was flat.
>>
>> The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
>> (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
>> country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
>> Europe too?
> Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
> "geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known as
> Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which is,
> "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth, including its
> structure, features, products, political divisions, and the people by whom
> it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an English Dictionary)]
Thank you; that was fascinating. I always thought dictionaries were for
squashing mice.
> The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> currency, the Euro, since 2002.
The US dollar is used in East Timor and Ecuador. Does that mean those
countries are in North America? Or wait - does it mean that the United
States is in southeast Asia and South America?
> As another person here said, "The islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary
> Islands are European in flair and style..." More than 10 million European
> tourists visit the Canary Islands every year. The official language of the
> Canary Islands is Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is
> Roman Catholic.
Ah, I won't even bother with all the counter-examples (though I might have
started with Australia). If these are your rules then every country is
everywhere and the names of continents have no meaning.
> The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> the point.
It certain does. Two points actually. One: the entire planet, other than the
US (the only country not to use the metric system) is part of Europe; well,
that's definitely a useful geographic designation. Two: rather than back
down after a minor error, you will go to any absurd lengths to support a
clearly ridiculous point.
> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
No, the Canary Islands are part of the geograhic area known as Africa. They
are territory of a country that is part of Europe. This is not unlike French
Polynesia. Does your dictionary have Tahiti in Europe too?
miguel
--
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> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
>> whether the earth was flat.
>>
>> The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
>> (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
>> country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
>> Europe too?
> Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
> "geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known as
> Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which is,
> "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth, including its
> structure, features, products, political divisions, and the people by whom
> it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an English Dictionary)]
Thank you; that was fascinating. I always thought dictionaries were for
squashing mice.
> The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> currency, the Euro, since 2002.
The US dollar is used in East Timor and Ecuador. Does that mean those
countries are in North America? Or wait - does it mean that the United
States is in southeast Asia and South America?
> As another person here said, "The islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary
> Islands are European in flair and style..." More than 10 million European
> tourists visit the Canary Islands every year. The official language of the
> Canary Islands is Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is
> Roman Catholic.
Ah, I won't even bother with all the counter-examples (though I might have
started with Australia). If these are your rules then every country is
everywhere and the names of continents have no meaning.
> The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> the point.
It certain does. Two points actually. One: the entire planet, other than the
US (the only country not to use the metric system) is part of Europe; well,
that's definitely a useful geographic designation. Two: rather than back
down after a minor error, you will go to any absurd lengths to support a
clearly ridiculous point.
> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
No, the Canary Islands are part of the geograhic area known as Africa. They
are territory of a country that is part of Europe. This is not unlike French
Polynesia. Does your dictionary have Tahiti in Europe too?
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Jul 22nd 2004, 7:51 pm
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Following up to Miguel Cruz
>> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
>No, the Canary Islands are part of the geograhic area known as Africa. They
>are territory of a country that is part of Europe. This is not unlike French
>Polynesia. Does your dictionary have Tahiti in Europe too?
Jen bases his position on the Canaries being part of the EU and
that "geography" includes political boundaries. Therefore the
political boundary of the EU makes the Canaries in Europe.
Unfortunately for him it is necessary to match like to like.
Europe, as defined in the dictionary ends at Tarifa, that is
physical Europe (the word "physical" is often assumed). Political
Europe, the "EU" extends to the Canaries. It is a mistake to
think the term "Europe" is interchangeable with "EU". The Swiss
get annoyed and there's nothing worse than an angry Swiss.
The Canaries are part of Africa.
The Canaries are part of the EU.
Perhaps between us we have made it clear?
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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>> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
>No, the Canary Islands are part of the geograhic area known as Africa. They
>are territory of a country that is part of Europe. This is not unlike French
>Polynesia. Does your dictionary have Tahiti in Europe too?
Jen bases his position on the Canaries being part of the EU and
that "geography" includes political boundaries. Therefore the
political boundary of the EU makes the Canaries in Europe.
Unfortunately for him it is necessary to match like to like.
Europe, as defined in the dictionary ends at Tarifa, that is
physical Europe (the word "physical" is often assumed). Political
Europe, the "EU" extends to the Canaries. It is a mistake to
think the term "Europe" is interchangeable with "EU". The Swiss
get annoyed and there's nothing worse than an angry Swiss.
The Canaries are part of Africa.
The Canaries are part of the EU.
Perhaps between us we have made it clear?
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
