Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
Jul 18th 2004, 5:15 pm
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
In article <[email protected]>, Miguel Cruz
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No, Cyprus is in the geographic area known as Europe. Yes, the Canary
> > Islands are near Africa, but they are also near Spain, and in the
> > Atlantic Ocean. Of course, the British often say they are not a part
> > of Europe. We can argue all day about whether or not a particular
> > island in the Atlantic Ocean is a part of the geographic area known as
> > Europe.
>
> But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
> whether the earth was flat.
>
> The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
> (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
> country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
> Europe too?
The islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in
flair and style... but are not part of Europe geographically either.
They do share the same approximate Lat. as Baghdad.
These 2 are part of the Africa plate... but so is parts of Italy.
The Azores ? They share the same Lat. as Lisbon.
jay
Sun Jul 18, 2004
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>
> miguel
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No, Cyprus is in the geographic area known as Europe. Yes, the Canary
> > Islands are near Africa, but they are also near Spain, and in the
> > Atlantic Ocean. Of course, the British often say they are not a part
> > of Europe. We can argue all day about whether or not a particular
> > island in the Atlantic Ocean is a part of the geographic area known as
> > Europe.
>
> But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
> whether the earth was flat.
>
> The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
> (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
> country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
> Europe too?
The islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in
flair and style... but are not part of Europe geographically either.
They do share the same approximate Lat. as Baghdad.
These 2 are part of the Africa plate... but so is parts of Italy.
The Azores ? They share the same Lat. as Lisbon.
jay
Sun Jul 18, 2004
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>
> miguel
Jul 18th 2004, 9:07 pm
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Following up to Jen
>Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
>geography known as Europe
The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
physical geography they are african.
1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
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>Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
>geography known as Europe
The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
physical geography they are african.
1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
--
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Jul 18th 2004, 11:22 pm
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Miguel Cruz kirjoitti:
>Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>No, Cyprus is in the geographic area known as Europe. Yes, the Canary
>>Islands are near Africa, but they are also near Spain, and in the
>>Atlantic Ocean. Of course, the British often say they are not a part
>>of Europe. We can argue all day about whether or not a particular
>>island in the Atlantic Ocean is a part of the geographic area known as
>>Europe.
>>
>But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
>whether the earth was flat.
>The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
>(where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
>country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
>Europe too?
>
Not in my opinion. However, in your opinion Turkey is European and
Canada is non American.
>Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>No, Cyprus is in the geographic area known as Europe. Yes, the Canary
>>Islands are near Africa, but they are also near Spain, and in the
>>Atlantic Ocean. Of course, the British often say they are not a part
>>of Europe. We can argue all day about whether or not a particular
>>island in the Atlantic Ocean is a part of the geographic area known as
>>Europe.
>>
>But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
>whether the earth was flat.
>The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
>(where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
>country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
>Europe too?
>
Not in my opinion. However, in your opinion Turkey is European and
Canada is non American.
Jul 19th 2004, 1:01 am
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Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
> whether the earth was flat.
>
> The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
> (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
> country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
> Europe too?
>
Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
"geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known
as Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which
is, "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth,
including its structure, features, products, political divisions, and
the people by whom it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an
English Dictionary)]
The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
the point.
The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
> But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day over
> whether the earth was flat.
>
> The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of Morocco
> (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The entire
> country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that in
> Europe too?
>
Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
"geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known
as Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which
is, "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth,
including its structure, features, products, political divisions, and
the people by whom it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an
English Dictionary)]
The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
the point.
The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Jul 19th 2004, 1:05 am
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"Jen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day
over
> > whether the earth was flat.
> >
> > The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of
Morocco
> > (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The
entire
> > country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that
in
> > Europe too?
> >
> Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
> "geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known
> as Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which
> is, "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth,
> including its structure, features, products, political divisions, and
> the people by whom it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an
> English Dictionary)]
> The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
> islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
> and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
> Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
> Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
> Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> the point.
> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Oh no they are not !
Although many Europeans may consider them so. But many people think that the
Cararies are close to Majorca !!
(P.S. Who knows which animal are the Canary Islands named after)
news:[email protected]...
> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day
over
> > whether the earth was flat.
> >
> > The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of
Morocco
> > (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The
entire
> > country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that
in
> > Europe too?
> >
> Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
> "geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known
> as Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which
> is, "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth,
> including its structure, features, products, political divisions, and
> the people by whom it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an
> English Dictionary)]
> The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
> islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
> and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
> Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
> Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
> Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> the point.
> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Oh no they are not !
Although many Europeans may consider them so. But many people think that the
Cararies are close to Majorca !!
(P.S. Who knows which animal are the Canary Islands named after)
Jul 19th 2004, 1:43 am
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Following up to Jen
>The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
>Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
>currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
>islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
>and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
>Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
>Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
>Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
>the point.
Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
Europe?
Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Isn't terms of physical geography The Canary Islands are part of
Africa.
In terms of political geography they are part of the *European*
*Union*.
Europe is a term of physical geography
European Union is a term of political geography.
EUROPE (Oxford D.)
"......the most westerly point of the mainland is Cape
Roca in Portugal; the northernmost point is the tip of
Nordkynn in Norway, and the southernmost point is Tarifa
Point in Spain......".
Europe ends at Tarifa. Three hours by jet from the Canaries.
There are many other colonial islands in the world with similar
status to the Canaries:-
"http://europa.eu.int/abc/maps/regions/france/mer_en.htm"
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>The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
>Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
>currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
>islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
>and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
>Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
>Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
>Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
>the point.
Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
Europe?
Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
>The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Isn't terms of physical geography The Canary Islands are part of
Africa.
In terms of political geography they are part of the *European*
*Union*.
Europe is a term of physical geography
European Union is a term of political geography.
EUROPE (Oxford D.)
"......the most westerly point of the mainland is Cape
Roca in Portugal; the northernmost point is the tip of
Nordkynn in Norway, and the southernmost point is Tarifa
Point in Spain......".
Europe ends at Tarifa. Three hours by jet from the Canaries.
There are many other colonial islands in the world with similar
status to the Canaries:-
"http://europa.eu.int/abc/maps/regions/france/mer_en.htm"
--
Mike Reid
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Jul 19th 2004, 1:43 am
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Following up to Miss L. Toe
>Although many Europeans may consider them so. But many people think that the
>Cararies are close to Majorca !!
This european does not.
>(P.S. Who knows which animal are the Canary Islands named after)
a dog, not a bird IIRC. They can still be seen running wild (well
feral) on Tenerife up in the crater.
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>Although many Europeans may consider them so. But many people think that the
>Cararies are close to Majorca !!
This european does not.
>(P.S. Who knows which animal are the Canary Islands named after)
a dog, not a bird IIRC. They can still be seen running wild (well
feral) on Tenerife up in the crater.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
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Jul 19th 2004, 2:49 am
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"The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
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> Following up to Jen
> >Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> >geography known as Europe
> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> physical geography they are african.
> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> --
> Mike Reid
Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal opinion,
is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to understand after a look
at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon.
A few may consider Cyprus to be in Europe because of the cultural ties but
most people don't. My dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in
Europe.
But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear borders
of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
documents.
news:[email protected]...
> Following up to Jen
> >Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> >geography known as Europe
> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> physical geography they are african.
> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> --
> Mike Reid
Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal opinion,
is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to understand after a look
at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon.
A few may consider Cyprus to be in Europe because of the cultural ties but
most people don't. My dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in
Europe.
But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear borders
of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
documents.
Jul 19th 2004, 3:26 am
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Lennart Petersen wrote:
> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> Following up to Jen
>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
>>> geography known as Europe
>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
>> physical geography they are african.
>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
>> --
>> Mike Reid
> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
> or official documents.
No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take part in
the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
Jan
> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[email protected]...
>> Following up to Jen
>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
>>> geography known as Europe
>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
>> physical geography they are african.
>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
>> --
>> Mike Reid
> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
> or official documents.
No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take part in
the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
Jan
Jul 19th 2004, 3:32 am
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"Jan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Following up to Jen
> >>
> >>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> >>> geography known as Europe
> >>
> >> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> >> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> >> physical geography they are african.
> >>
> >> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> >> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> >> --
> >> Mike Reid
> > Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> > opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> > understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> > Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> > Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> > dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> > But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> > borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> > borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
> > or official documents.
> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take part in
> the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
But with a British Singer :-)
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> Lennart Petersen wrote:
> > "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Following up to Jen
> >>
> >>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
> >>> geography known as Europe
> >>
> >> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
> >> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
> >> physical geography they are african.
> >>
> >> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
> >> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
> >> --
> >> Mike Reid
> > Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
> > opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
> > understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
> > Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
> > Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
> > dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
> > But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
> > borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
> > borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
> > or official documents.
> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take part in
> the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
But with a British Singer :-)
Jul 19th 2004, 3:54 am
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"Jen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day
over
> > whether the earth was flat.
> >
> > The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of
Morocco
> > (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The
entire
> > country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that
in
> > Europe too?
> >
> Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
> "geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known
> as Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which
> is, "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth,
> including its structure, features, products, political divisions, and
> the people by whom it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an
> English Dictionary)]
> The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
> islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
> and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
> Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
> Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
> Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> the point.
> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Not at all.
Is the USA in Europe?
Are the Falklands in Europe?
Stop confusing geography with culture and/or politics.
Surreyman
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> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > But in the case of the Canary Islands, it would be like arguing all day
over
> > whether the earth was flat.
> >
> > The Canary Islands are 70 miles directly west of the southern tip of
Morocco
> > (where Western Sahara begins). They are 700 miles south of Spain. The
entire
> > country of Tunisia is closer to Europe than the Canary Islands. Is that
in
> > Europe too?
> >
> Miguel, perhaps you are unfamiliar with the English language. The word
> "geographic" as I used it in the phrase, "...the geographic area known
> as Europe" concerns the topography of a region, or "geography", which
> is, "...a description of the earth, or a portion of the earth,
> including its structure, features, products, political divisions, and
> the people by whom it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an
> English Dictionary)]
> The Canary Islands are a part of Spain (a European country) in the
> Atlantic Ocean. The Canary Islands have been using a European
> currency, the Euro, since 2002. As another person here said, "The
> islands Madeira, to the NW of the Canary Islands are European in flair
> and style..." More than 10 million European tourists visit the Canary
> Islands every year. The official language of the Canary Islands is
> Spanish. The principle religion of the Canary Islands is Roman
> Catholic. The Canary Islands use the metric system. I think this makes
> the point.
> The Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area known as Europe.
Not at all.
Is the USA in Europe?
Are the Falklands in Europe?
Stop confusing geography with culture and/or politics.
Surreyman
Jul 19th 2004, 4:38 am
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Following up to Lennart Petersen
>But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear borders
>of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
>countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
>documents.
the thing is Europe has clear physical borders everywhere except
the east, being in physical terms merely part of Eurasia. It
doesn't need a treaty, but it does need some clear geographical
feature to define its limits.
--
Mike Reid
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>But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear borders
>of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
>countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
>documents.
the thing is Europe has clear physical borders everywhere except
the east, being in physical terms merely part of Eurasia. It
doesn't need a treaty, but it does need some clear geographical
feature to define its limits.
--
Mike Reid
"Art is the lie that reveals the truth" P.Picasso
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Jul 19th 2004, 4:45 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
The Reids kirjoitti:
>Following up to Lennart Petersen
>
>>But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear borders
>>of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
>>countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
>>documents.
>>
>the thing is Europe has clear physical borders everywhere except
>the east, being in physical terms merely part of Eurasia. It
>doesn't need a treaty, but it does need some clear geographical
>feature to define its limits.
>
Some 200 years ago Eurasia was joined with Africa. Now, Africa is in
it's own and an island after a Frenchman called Lesseps engineered a
canal from the Mediterranean to Red Sea.
>Following up to Lennart Petersen
>
>>But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear borders
>>of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
>>countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
>>documents.
>>
>the thing is Europe has clear physical borders everywhere except
>the east, being in physical terms merely part of Eurasia. It
>doesn't need a treaty, but it does need some clear geographical
>feature to define its limits.
>
Some 200 years ago Eurasia was joined with Africa. Now, Africa is in
it's own and an island after a Frenchman called Lesseps engineered a
canal from the Mediterranean to Red Sea.
Jul 19th 2004, 5:42 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
"The Reids" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Following up to Lennart Petersen
> >But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
borders
> >of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
> >countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
> >documents.
> the thing is Europe has clear physical borders everywhere except
> the east, being in physical terms merely part of Eurasia. It
> doesn't need a treaty, but it does need some clear geographical
> feature to define its limits.
> --
There is in fact a very detailed definition, river & peak by river & peak,
based on the Urals and through to Georgia. I needed to map it on large scale
maps some years ago. I'm sure it could be Googled.
(And, guess what, it didn't include Cyprus or the Canaries!).
Surreyman
news:[email protected]...
> Following up to Lennart Petersen
> >But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
borders
> >of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the borders of
> >countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties or official
> >documents.
> the thing is Europe has clear physical borders everywhere except
> the east, being in physical terms merely part of Eurasia. It
> doesn't need a treaty, but it does need some clear geographical
> feature to define its limits.
> --
There is in fact a very detailed definition, river & peak by river & peak,
based on the Urals and through to Georgia. I needed to map it on large scale
maps some years ago. I'm sure it could be Googled.
(And, guess what, it didn't include Cyprus or the Canaries!).
Surreyman
Jul 19th 2004, 10:37 am
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Re: Is Iraq in Europe or Asia ?
The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
> Europe?
This is not possible because a South American "country" can not
"adopt" the Euro. Do you not understand why it's called the Euro?
And "look to..." ????????
> Europe is a term of physical geography
Wrong. I do not see the words "physical geography" in the Oxford
dictionary definition of Europe.
As I said, "...the geographic area known as Europe" concerns the
topography of a region, or "geography", which is, "...a description of
the earth, or a portion of the earth, including its structure,
features, products, political divisions, and the people by whom it is
inhabited."
Has the Fell-walker fallen on his face? Read the above paragraph
again. If you don't understand the words, learn English and come back
another day.
And Cyprus is a part of Europe too.
> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
> Europe?
This is not possible because a South American "country" can not
"adopt" the Euro. Do you not understand why it's called the Euro?
And "look to..." ????????
> Europe is a term of physical geography
Wrong. I do not see the words "physical geography" in the Oxford
dictionary definition of Europe.
As I said, "...the geographic area known as Europe" concerns the
topography of a region, or "geography", which is, "...a description of
the earth, or a portion of the earth, including its structure,
features, products, political divisions, and the people by whom it is
inhabited."
Has the Fell-walker fallen on his face? Read the above paragraph
again. If you don't understand the words, learn English and come back
another day.
And Cyprus is a part of Europe too.
