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Old Jul 24th 2004, 4:35 am
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In article <rX0Mc.51$%[email protected]>, [email protected] (Miguel
Cruz) wrote:

    > Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an English Dictionary)]
    >
    > Thank you; that was fascinating. I always thought dictionaries were for
    > squashing mice.

But is that what they were /designed/ for?
 
Old Jul 24th 2004, 6:47 am
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The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..

    > Europe, as defined in the dictionary ends at Tarifa, that is

fell-walker, you're an insect. That's what it says in my dictionary.

    > The Canaries are part of Africa.

I know where the Canaries are located, but if you could read my
original post without forgetting what you read by the time you reached
the end of the sentence, then you would understand that I said "The
European Union includes countries in the geographic area known as
Europe." Then I said that the, "...Canary Islands are a part of the
geography known as Europe."

Now, hold your head while you read this so it doesn't fall out... If
you do not think the Canary Islands are a part of the geography known
as Europe then fine! There are plenty of people who live on the Canary
Islands who disagree with you.

"Since Spain forms part of the European Union the Canary Islands are
the southernmost part of Europe and can be called 'Tropical Europe'.":
http://www.nrcsa.com/nh_df/7641/7641index.html

"Tenerife, the jewel in the crown of the Canary Islands is a
subtropical paradise of perpetual sunshine; forming the southernmost
part of Europe...":
http://www.sovereign-publications.co...opertyshop.htm

"Here on the Canary Islands we can produce farmed fish as in any other
part of Europe...":
http://www.growfish.com.au/content.asp?contentid=959

A search on the Web will show you that there are many people who
consider the Canary Islands to be a part of the geography known as
Europe. I am sure you can find links that disagree, and that's fine. I
only said that the Canary Islands are a part of the geographic area
"known as" Europe. Also, "geography" is not exclusively "location". If
you and Miguel understood the English language then you would already
know this.

    > Perhaps between us we have made it clear?

You have made it clear that you are not capable of having a casual
conversation on Usenet. I was careful to be vague in my reply but for
some reason you have the memory of an insect and forget what you are
reading by the time you reach the end of a sentence. Yeah, go ahead
and complain to the world that I called you an insect and blah, blah,
blah.
 
Old Jul 24th 2004, 10:13 am
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Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Since Spain forms part of the European Union the Canary Islands are
    > the southernmost part of Europe and can be called 'Tropical Europe'.":
    > http://www.nrcsa.com/nh_df/7641/7641index.html
    > "Tenerife, the jewel in the crown of the Canary Islands is a
    > subtropical paradise of perpetual sunshine; forming the southernmost
    > part of Europe...":
    > http://www.sovereign-publications.co...opertyshop.htm
    > "Here on the Canary Islands we can produce farmed fish as in any other
    > part of Europe...":
    > http://www.growfish.com.au/content.asp?contentid=959
    > A search on the Web will show you that there are many people who
    > consider the Canary Islands to be a part of the geography known as
    > Europe.

A) None of those people say "the geography known as Europe." They are all
talking about the political entity of the EU.

B) I can find more websites than that, that say that space aliens walk among
us. So what? Right is right and wrong is wrong.

miguel
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Old Jul 24th 2004, 10:14 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
    > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
    >> Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an English Dictionary)]
    >>
    >> Thank you; that was fascinating. I always thought dictionaries were for
    >> squashing mice.
    > But is that what they were /designed/ for?

Yes. They are weapons.

miguel
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Old Jul 24th 2004, 9:12 pm
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Following up to Jen

    >A search on the Web will show you that there are many people who
    >consider the Canary Islands to be a part of the geography known as
    >Europe. I am sure you can find links that disagree

Indeed there are woolly headed people al over the place who get
things wrong.

If you think this isn't gobbledegook:-

    >"Since Spain forms part of the European Union the Canary Islands are
    >the southernmost part of Europe and can be called 'Tropical Europe'.":

you have a problem. You certainly have a problem in not being
able to take disagreement without descending to childishness
like:-

    >fell-walker, you're an insect. That's what it says in my dictionary.

Please try to be more sensible.
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If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
 
Old Jul 25th 2004, 3:30 am
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In article <SaBMc.160$%[email protected]>, [email protected] (Miguel
Cruz) wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
    > >> Jen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>> it is inhabited." [Merriam-Webster, (this is an English Dictionary)]
    > >>
    > >> Thank you; that was fascinating. I always thought dictionaries were
    > > for
    > >> squashing mice.
    > >
    > > But is that what they were /designed/ for?
    >
    > Yes. They are weapons.

Oh. I thought they were cars.
 
Old Jul 25th 2004, 7:21 pm
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Following up to Jen

    >Now, hold your head while you read this so it doesn't fall out... If
    >you do not think the Canary Islands are a part of the geography known
    >as Europe then fine! There are plenty of people who live on the Canary
    >Islands who disagree with you.

Here is a good web page, one of those on line encyclopedias (it
was the first link that google through up, not some old holiday
brochure blurb):-
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_Islands"

The page has links for physical geography and political geography
and by following those links you will learn thing like:-
"The islands are outside European Union customs territory, though
politically within the EU".
and you can read that they are physically in Macronesia, a group
of islands of the African coast and all about Jean Bethancourt
and the wild dogs.

Teide is the highest mountain in the Canaries, read how to climb
it on my website:-
"http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/page66.htm"
and about general walking in the Canaries at:-
"http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/canaries.htm"
and heres a page about food of the Canaries:-
"http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/canary.htm"
--
Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
 
Old Jul 25th 2004, 7:21 pm
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Following up to The Reids

    >>fell-walker, you're an insect. That's what it says in my dictionary.
    >Please try to be more sensible.

fell walker or fellwalker actually means a person who makes a
pastime on walking on fells, fells being from the old Norse
"Fjall" meaning hill (there is a brand of outdoor clothing called
Fjallraven). The term is mainly used in the English Lake District
where norse words are not uncommon, some hills still having a
Norse and English name such as Saddleback (English) and
Blencathra (Norse).
Here is a picture of Blencathra:-
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/north020.htm"
Probably the most famous lake district fellwalker was Alfred
Wainright, known as "AW" who produced a series of hand drawn and
written guide books to the Lake District. He was a local
government accountant, didn't get on with his wife and left his
money to a cats home.
If you would like to buy his books follow this link:-
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/page63.htm#wainwright"
--
Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
 
Old Jul 25th 2004, 7:21 pm
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Following up to [email protected]

    >> Yes. They are weapons.
    >Oh. I thought they were cars.

Cars are tools.
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Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
 
Old Jul 25th 2004, 7:36 pm
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Followup to Jen:

    >> The Canary Islands have been using a European
    >>currency, the Euro, since 2002.

You mean the Peseta wasn't a European currency? Do the Spanish know?
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Old Jul 25th 2004, 7:46 pm
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Followup to Jen:

    >>"Since Spain forms part of the European Union the Canary Islands are
    >>the southernmost part of Europe and can be called 'Tropical Europe'.":

They're not even in the tropics. Even easily verified, indisputable facts
you can't get right.
"Sub-tropical" would be accurate.
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Old Jul 26th 2004, 1:37 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (The Reids) wrote:

    > Following up to [email protected]
    >
    > >> Yes. They are weapons.
    > >
    > >Oh. I thought they were cars.
    >
    > Cars are tools.

So are slaves.
 
Old Jul 26th 2004, 2:44 am
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Following up to [email protected]

    >> Cars are tools.
    >So are slaves.

only the male ones!
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Mike Reid
If god wanted us to be vegetarians he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Wasdale-Lake district-Thames path-London "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
 
Old Jul 26th 2004, 5:32 am
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Tim Challenger <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]> ...
    > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:24:28 GMT, devil wrote:
    >
    > > On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:05:17 -0700, meurgues wrote:
    > >
    > >> The Reids <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > >>> Following up to Jen
    > >>>
    > >>> Many countries in S.America speak Spanish, and are catholic and
    > >>> look to Spain. If they adopted the euro would they be part of
    > >>> Europe?
    > >>> Is Gibraltar part of The British Isles?
    > >>> Are the two Spanish colonies on mainland Africa in Europe?
    > >>
    > >> What curency is used in Ceuta and Melilla ? They are not indicated on
    > >> the euro bank notes (neither dutch overseas possessions like Aruba,
    > >> Curaçao, etc...) at the difference of Madeira, Green cape and Canary
    > >> islands and even the farther 4 french overseas departments (but not
    > >> other possessions).
    > >
    > > Ah, colonies.

The word colonie is not used anymore in french intitutions probably at
least since 1946 and I didn't used the 3 only french instituonal
expressions because you would not have understood DOM, TOM and CTOM or
because it was too long to write them in full "départements d'outre
mer, territoires d'outre mer et collectivités territoriales d'outre
mer" : DOM (Guadeloupe, Réunion, Martinique, Guyane and dependencie
with St Barthelemy and half of St Martin), TOM (Polynésie, Nouvelle
Calédonie, Wallis et Futuna, and TAAF Terres Australes et Antartique
Françaises (St Paul & Amsterdam, Crozet, Kerguelen and Terre Adélie)
and the smallest CTOM (St Pierre et Miquelon and Mayotte)" The
"inhabited" ones (Clipperton, Glorieuses, Bassas da India, Juan de
Nova, Europa and Tromelin are consideres as TOM.
At the difference of the 4 french overseas departments wich can't be
institutionaly separated from the metropolitan ones with which they
share exactly the same institutions (like Hawai for the US), the
french TOM use special currencies, not the euro. I was just wondering
if it was the same in spanish Ceuta and Melilla.

didier Meurgues

    > I think you're supposed to call them "autonomous protectorates" nowadays.
    > ;-)
 
Old Jul 27th 2004, 6:45 pm
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:31:05 +0100, Jan wrote:

    > Tim Challenger wrote:
    >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:26:06 +0100, Jan wrote:
    >>> Lennart Petersen wrote:
    >>>> "The Reids" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
    >>>> news:[email protected]...
    >>>>> Following up to Jen
    >>>>>> Also, Spain and the Canary Islands, etc. are a part of the
    >>>>>> geography known as Europe
    >>>>> The Canary islands are in/off Africa. Politically they are in the
    >>>>> EU[1] and culturally they largely look to Spain. But in tewrms of
    >>>>> physical geography they are african.
    >>>>> 1] As are a number of colonial islands such as Martinique,
    >>>>> Reunion and the Isle of Sheppey.
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> Mike Reid
    >>>> Indeed you're right. But also Cyprus, contrary to Jen:s personal
    >>>> opinion, is usually considered to be in Asia. Quite easy to
    >>>> understand after a look at the map. Cyprus being somewhere between
    >>>> Asian Turkey,Syria and Lebanon. A few may consider Cyprus to be in
    >>>> Europe because of the cultural ties but most people don't. My
    >>>> dictionary indicates clear that Cyprus isn't in Europe.
    >>>> But that said it could be reason to say there are no absolute clear
    >>>> borders of Europe as they're by tradition only. Contrary to the
    >>>> borders of countries the borders of Europe isn't defined in treaties
    >>>> or official documents.
    >>> No No No ......Cyprus must be in Europe... for they do indeed take
    >>> part in the Eurovision song contest !!!!! ;-)
    >>> Jan
    >> So does (did) Israel and Turkey. So what?
    >
    > You need to read my earlier post ;-)
    >
    > Jan

Yes I got it.
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