How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
Sep 10th 2002 | 3:25 am
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Re: How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
In article <[email protected]>,
a.spencer3 <[email protected]> writes
>I think he thinks he gave it to us yesterday, via the ISS report - which said
>nothing new. Bush/Blair seem to be doing so much with so little, I really do wonder
>what's behind it all. Now, they're starting to convince me that maybe they do know a
>lot but can't say. But that's their intention. So I won't fall for it even if it
>becomes the truth!
>Bewildered of Surrey
He did a bit better at the TUC Congress.
M
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a.spencer3 <[email protected]> writes
>I think he thinks he gave it to us yesterday, via the ISS report - which said
>nothing new. Bush/Blair seem to be doing so much with so little, I really do wonder
>what's behind it all. Now, they're starting to convince me that maybe they do know a
>lot but can't say. But that's their intention. So I won't fall for it even if it
>becomes the truth!
>Bewildered of Surrey
He did a bit better at the TUC Congress.
M
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Sep 10th 2002 | 4:41 am
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From: Dixie, ex UK
Re: How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
Originally posted by Deeleecee:
I was of the understanding that the majority of Brits were against a war with Iraq.
Why then is Tony Blair in the US lending support to our "war mongering" president?
Is it political suicide?
I was of the understanding that the majority of Brits were against a war with Iraq.
Why then is Tony Blair in the US lending support to our "war mongering" president?
Is it political suicide?
Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all. The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the bigeest investors in the US. Britain is also one of the largest sources of immigrants to the US.
I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support in the UK. Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his stance will be supported by most Conservatives.
Sep 10th 2002 | 8:14 am
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"Pulaski" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Originally posted by Deeleecee:
> > I was of the understanding that the majority of Brits were against a war with
> > Iraq. Why then is Tony Blair in the US lending support to our "war mongering"
> > president? Is it political suicide?
> >
> I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
> US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the
> bigeest investors in the US. Britain is also one of the largest sources of
> immigrants to the US.
> I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support
> in the UK. Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his
> stance will be supported by most Conservatives.
and you are living on which planet, exactly? Right now, everyone I know is queuing up
(or even standing in line) to find a job on the mainland. They can't wait to get out
of the UK.
> Originally posted by Deeleecee:
> > I was of the understanding that the majority of Brits were against a war with
> > Iraq. Why then is Tony Blair in the US lending support to our "war mongering"
> > president? Is it political suicide?
> >
> I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
> US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the
> bigeest investors in the US. Britain is also one of the largest sources of
> immigrants to the US.
> I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support
> in the UK. Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his
> stance will be supported by most Conservatives.
and you are living on which planet, exactly? Right now, everyone I know is queuing up
(or even standing in line) to find a job on the mainland. They can't wait to get out
of the UK.
Sep 10th 2002 | 9:22 am
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Re: How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
In article <[email protected]>, Pulaski
<[email protected]> writes
>I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
>US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
You must have very different friends from mine, several of whom have gone or are
going to live in France, as we shall too. when my husband retires.
Nothing at all would induce me to live in the USA.
>I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support
>in the UK.
Really? I take it you are a Sun reader.
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<[email protected]> writes
>I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
>US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
You must have very different friends from mine, several of whom have gone or are
going to live in France, as we shall too. when my husband retires.
Nothing at all would induce me to live in the USA.
>I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support
>in the UK.
Really? I take it you are a Sun reader.
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Sep 10th 2002 | 11:11 am
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Re: How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
"Marie Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Pulaski
> <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with
> >the US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
> >
> You must have very different friends from mine, several of whom have gone or are
> going to live in France, as we shall too. when my husband retires.
> Nothing at all would induce me to live in the USA.
> >
> >I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support
> >in the UK.
> Really? I take it you are a Sun reader.
what is it with oxymorons this week? 'Sun reader'?? FFS....
> In article <[email protected]>, Pulaski
> <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with
> >the US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
> >
> You must have very different friends from mine, several of whom have gone or are
> going to live in France, as we shall too. when my husband retires.
> Nothing at all would induce me to live in the USA.
> >
> >I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support
> >in the UK.
> Really? I take it you are a Sun reader.
what is it with oxymorons this week? 'Sun reader'?? FFS....
Sep 10th 2002 | 11:36 am
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>How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
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Sep 10th 2002 | 3:04 pm
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On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:41:16 +0000, Pulaski <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
>US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
Depends on who you talk to. Certainly Britain's "chattering classes" have the
opposite views; many were openly gleeful after the 9/11 attacks. They are likely a
minority of the population as a whole but have a disproportionate social prominence.
>I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support in
>the UK. Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his stance
>will be supported by most Conservatives.
Word from insiders is that TB has no real love for George W., and realizes the
domestic political risks involved. The most credible hypothesis is that TB thinks he
will better be able to influence George if he (TB) plays along. Americans
increasingly view Europe as the disabled granny who whines about how you've got
everything wrong but lacks the will or ability to take action herself. By distancing
himself from the continental European stance, TB hopes to have a moderating influence
on the U.S. I hope he's right. Time will tell.
>I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
>US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
Depends on who you talk to. Certainly Britain's "chattering classes" have the
opposite views; many were openly gleeful after the 9/11 attacks. They are likely a
minority of the population as a whole but have a disproportionate social prominence.
>I am no fan of TB but he probably has a good feel for the views of public support in
>the UK. Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his stance
>will be supported by most Conservatives.
Word from insiders is that TB has no real love for George W., and realizes the
domestic political risks involved. The most credible hypothesis is that TB thinks he
will better be able to influence George if he (TB) plays along. Americans
increasingly view Europe as the disabled granny who whines about how you've got
everything wrong but lacks the will or ability to take action herself. By distancing
himself from the continental European stance, TB hopes to have a moderating influence
on the U.S. I hope he's right. Time will tell.
Sep 10th 2002 | 4:26 pm
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Pulaski wrote:
> Originally posted by Deeleecee:
> > I was of the understanding that the majority of Brits were against a war with
> > Iraq. Why then is Tony Blair in the US lending support to our "war mongering"
> > president? Is it political suicide?
> >
> I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
> US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
Are you speaking as a Brit or a Yank? (Just as a point of information, since you
make such a sweeping statement?)
> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the bigeest
> investors in the US.
Really? I though Japan was!
> Britain is also one of the largest sources of immigrants to the US.
But it runs a distant second to Mexico and South and Central America! (Or are you
speaking from inception to the present?)
> Originally posted by Deeleecee:
> > I was of the understanding that the majority of Brits were against a war with
> > Iraq. Why then is Tony Blair in the US lending support to our "war mongering"
> > president? Is it political suicide?
> >
> I don't know where you got your info, but most British have a close empthy with the
> US, balanced by a loathing of Europe.
Are you speaking as a Brit or a Yank? (Just as a point of information, since you
make such a sweeping statement?)
> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the bigeest
> investors in the US.
Really? I though Japan was!
> Britain is also one of the largest sources of immigrants to the US.
But it runs a distant second to Mexico and South and Central America! (Or are you
speaking from inception to the present?)
Sep 10th 2002 | 6:56 pm
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Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
>> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the
>> bigeest investors in the US.
> Really? I though Japan was!
Japan, UK, Canada, Netherlands, in some order that I can never remember without
looking up.
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>> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
>> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the
>> bigeest investors in the US.
> Really? I though Japan was!
Japan, UK, Canada, Netherlands, in some order that I can never remember without
looking up.
miguel
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Sep 10th 2002 | 6:58 pm
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>>and the UK is one of the bigeest investors in the US.
> Really? I though Japan was!
ONE of ... not THE. Read more slowly.
> Really? I though Japan was!
ONE of ... not THE. Read more slowly.
Sep 10th 2002 | 7:29 pm
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Pulaski <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going
> to be defeated as his stance will be supported by most Conservatives.
Doesn't that say everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surreyman
Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going
> to be defeated as his stance will be supported by most Conservatives.
Doesn't that say everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surreyman
Sep 11th 2002 | 3:53 am
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From: Dixie, ex UK
Re: How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
Originally posted by A.Spencer3:
Pulaski <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his stance will be supported by most Conservatives.[/q1]
Doesn't that say everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surreyman
Pulaski <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Even if he recalls parliament he isn't going to be defeated as his stance will be supported by most Conservatives.[/q1]
Doesn't that say everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surreyman
Sep 11th 2002 | 5:11 am
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Re: How will UK voters view Tony's US Trip?
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:26:41 -0700, "Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Pulaski wrote:
>> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
>> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the
>> bigeest investors in the US.
>Really? I though Japan was!
I thought Canada was the US' biggest trading partner.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Pulaski wrote:
>> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any harm at all.
>> The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK is one of the
>> bigeest investors in the US.
>Really? I though Japan was!
I thought Canada was the US' biggest trading partner.
************ DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ***********
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * ******* My typos are
intentional copyright traps ******
Sep 11th 2002 | 5:14 am
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On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:58:02 +0200, "Tim Challenger"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>and the UK is one of the bigeest investors in the US.
>> Really? I though Japan was!
>ONE of ... not THE. Read more slowly.
Most of us are assuming she was responding to "The US is still Britain's
biggest trading partner". But we didn't read carefuly enough there either: the
US may be Britain's biggest trading partner, but Britain is not the US' biggest
trading partner.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>and the UK is one of the bigeest investors in the US.
>> Really? I though Japan was!
>ONE of ... not THE. Read more slowly.
Most of us are assuming she was responding to "The US is still Britain's
biggest trading partner". But we didn't read carefuly enough there either: the
US may be Britain's biggest trading partner, but Britain is not the US' biggest
trading partner.
************ DAVE HATUNEN ([email protected]) ***********
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * ******* My typos are
intentional copyright traps ******
Sep 11th 2002 | 5:16 am
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"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet news:[email protected]...
> Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any
harm
> >> at all. The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK
is
> >> one of the bigeest investors in the US.
> >
> > Really? I though Japan was!
> Japan, UK, Canada, Netherlands, in some order that I can never remember without
> looking up.
I've seen those figures somewhere so I believe you but nevertheless Netherlands is a
surprise as it's not a very large country nor a typical financial centre. And not
more related to US than others so why Netherlands ?
L.P
> Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Keeping close with the US has never done any British government any
harm
> >> at all. The US is still Britain's biggest trading partner, and the UK
is
> >> one of the bigeest investors in the US.
> >
> > Really? I though Japan was!
> Japan, UK, Canada, Netherlands, in some order that I can never remember without
> looking up.
I've seen those figures somewhere so I believe you but nevertheless Netherlands is a
surprise as it's not a very large country nor a typical financial centre. And not
more related to US than others so why Netherlands ?
L.P
