How to pack light, some tips
Aug 23rd 2007, 5:22 pm
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Re: How to pack light, some tips
Make credence recognised that on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:18:11 GMT,
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>>> Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.
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>> Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.
>
>In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is
>made out of gold.
It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
instead.
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>> "sharx35" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.
>
>In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is
>made out of gold.
It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
instead.
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Aug 24th 2007, 10:35 pm
#167
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Re: travel guides again was: How to pack light, some tips
>> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/packlight.html
"Ian Burton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>There are tips here that I couldn't follow in a million years, but to
>each his own.
Yep. To each his own.
>One paragraph that turned my stomach is below. I find no pleasure in
>tearing up books. Next kommt the burning!
Oh he's just being melodramatic.
>Travel Book Country Removals: Weight Saved
>This time around, I bought the cheap $15 Let's Go Europe "On a Budget"
>edition. Then I cut out the stuff I won't need. There is a certain
>pleasure in chopping out Let's Go sections, perhaps because the writing is so
>awful.
>Many fellow travellers agree: you only buy Let's Go because their data
>is reasonably good, and the paper is lighter than Lonely Planet.
Tear? Burn? Cut? Awful?
I recall the 2nd guidebook I purchased was the Lonely Planet guide to
New Zealand. I gave it in barter and now I have a detective police
constable friend in Perth with a place to stay at his home. He had
never heard of Lonely Planet. Tony Wheeler just visited Berkeley
pushing his and Maureen's latest 2 books (one their auto-bio).
Who really cares about the weight these days with cars and wheeled
luggage? This guy mentions a bike. OK. I carry skis some time.
All these general purpose travel guides have deficiencies.
I'm trying to figre some of them out. Rec.travel.misc has a nice FAQ
comparing various guides. I tried an Excel spread sheet, and I took
Switzerland as a sample country and bought every English language travel
guide I could find. They all lacked something which I could tell the
minute my train left Zurich Flughauftn's tunnel. Toto, we're definitely
not in Kansas anymore.
Let's Go: maybe OK for Harvard students. I've only evry bought one of
them and not checked out any others from libraries. LP isn't bad.
I like what Robert Pelton who owns the Fielding's guide consession notes
about them being, well I'll just cut and paste:
subsection "Who This Book is For" under 'Adventure Travellers' reads:
Most adventure travellers rely on politically correct but militarily
naive guidebooks like Lonely Planet, Moon and Rough Guides.
They provide minimal coverage of war zones and simply tell you
to stay away.
I've now had too many errors in Fodors and Frommers that I won't buy
them and they are also oriented more toward middle upper class shopping
guides. And I think it was Frommer himself who put down Steves' guides.
Those with TV shows make amusing community scraps at each other.
Fodors had me trying to locate a restaurant in Tokyo for over 1/2 hr.
which wasn't even on their cited street.
Steves' isn't bad if you want a basic canned linear trip. But it is
very canned.
Michellin that you have to learn about the Green guides and the Red
guides is a little irksome. English speakers might wonder why they are
paying for the French part of those guides.
So I'm planning a Norway-Iceland trip and unlike the Swiss case, this
isn't buy every guide for comparison. And I will probably take the
coastal steamer which is clearly noted in LP and DK, but Foders (library
copy) doesn't even detail nor does Frommer? It amazes me that these
guys make any more except for those who ignore major portions of missing
country information. All I can think is how tourist can only visit a
country for such a short period of time and except to see things.
But cutting, burning, etc. that's merely guide book drama.
The hard interesting part is editorial and what they decide to leave off.
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"Ian Burton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>There are tips here that I couldn't follow in a million years, but to
>each his own.
Yep. To each his own.
>One paragraph that turned my stomach is below. I find no pleasure in
>tearing up books. Next kommt the burning!
Oh he's just being melodramatic.
>Travel Book Country Removals: Weight Saved
>This time around, I bought the cheap $15 Let's Go Europe "On a Budget"
>edition. Then I cut out the stuff I won't need. There is a certain
>pleasure in chopping out Let's Go sections, perhaps because the writing is so
>awful.
>Many fellow travellers agree: you only buy Let's Go because their data
>is reasonably good, and the paper is lighter than Lonely Planet.
Tear? Burn? Cut? Awful?
I recall the 2nd guidebook I purchased was the Lonely Planet guide to
New Zealand. I gave it in barter and now I have a detective police
constable friend in Perth with a place to stay at his home. He had
never heard of Lonely Planet. Tony Wheeler just visited Berkeley
pushing his and Maureen's latest 2 books (one their auto-bio).
Who really cares about the weight these days with cars and wheeled
luggage? This guy mentions a bike. OK. I carry skis some time.
All these general purpose travel guides have deficiencies.
I'm trying to figre some of them out. Rec.travel.misc has a nice FAQ
comparing various guides. I tried an Excel spread sheet, and I took
Switzerland as a sample country and bought every English language travel
guide I could find. They all lacked something which I could tell the
minute my train left Zurich Flughauftn's tunnel. Toto, we're definitely
not in Kansas anymore.
Let's Go: maybe OK for Harvard students. I've only evry bought one of
them and not checked out any others from libraries. LP isn't bad.
I like what Robert Pelton who owns the Fielding's guide consession notes
about them being, well I'll just cut and paste:
subsection "Who This Book is For" under 'Adventure Travellers' reads:
Most adventure travellers rely on politically correct but militarily
naive guidebooks like Lonely Planet, Moon and Rough Guides.
They provide minimal coverage of war zones and simply tell you
to stay away.
I've now had too many errors in Fodors and Frommers that I won't buy
them and they are also oriented more toward middle upper class shopping
guides. And I think it was Frommer himself who put down Steves' guides.
Those with TV shows make amusing community scraps at each other.
Fodors had me trying to locate a restaurant in Tokyo for over 1/2 hr.
which wasn't even on their cited street.
Steves' isn't bad if you want a basic canned linear trip. But it is
very canned.
Michellin that you have to learn about the Green guides and the Red
guides is a little irksome. English speakers might wonder why they are
paying for the French part of those guides.
So I'm planning a Norway-Iceland trip and unlike the Swiss case, this
isn't buy every guide for comparison. And I will probably take the
coastal steamer which is clearly noted in LP and DK, but Foders (library
copy) doesn't even detail nor does Frommer? It amazes me that these
guys make any more except for those who ignore major portions of missing
country information. All I can think is how tourist can only visit a
country for such a short period of time and except to see things.
But cutting, burning, etc. that's merely guide book drama.
The hard interesting part is editorial and what they decide to leave off.
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Aug 24th 2007, 11:35 pm
#168
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Re: How to pack light, some tips
>"Doesn't Frequently Mop" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> a écrit
>dans le message de news: [email protected]...
>Make credence recognised that on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:18:11 GMT,
>"sharx35" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>>> Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.
Good one.
"William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>> Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.
>>
>>In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is
>>made out of gold.
I like the way these guys think.
In article <[email protected]>,
Sovereign <[email protected]> wrote:
>It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
>cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
>instead.
Did you sign a pre-nup?
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>dans le message de news: [email protected]...
>Make credence recognised that on Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:18:11 GMT,
>"sharx35" <[email protected]> has scripted:
>>>> Those guys who are saddled with "high maintenance" wives, take note.
Good one.
"William Black" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>> Define 'high maintenance' in this case please.
>>
>>In a nutshell? Demanding entitlement bitches who think that their butt is
>>made out of gold.
I like the way these guys think.
In article <[email protected]>,
Sovereign <[email protected]> wrote:
>It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
>cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
>instead.
Did you sign a pre-nup?
--
Aug 24th 2007, 11:35 pm
#169
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Re: How to pack light, some tips
In article <1i37rn6.uisib1gfwkesN%[email protected]>,
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, me wrote:
> > Actually, it is more of a case of society organizing itself around
> > the presumption that one will have a cell phone.
>
> Unfortunately.
Hey, the Titanic sank. Get over it.
From the 1960s emergency phones were placed on many US highway urban areas.
Now, with so many people with cell phones, the highway admin is proposing
and actually removing 1/3. So people without will have to walk a bit further
but it's 1/3 fewer to maintain.
Life is about change.
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> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, me wrote:
> > Actually, it is more of a case of society organizing itself around
> > the presumption that one will have a cell phone.
>
> Unfortunately.
Hey, the Titanic sank. Get over it.
From the 1960s emergency phones were placed on many US highway urban areas.
Now, with so many people with cell phones, the highway admin is proposing
and actually removing 1/3. So people without will have to walk a bit further
but it's 1/3 fewer to maintain.
Life is about change.
--
Aug 26th 2007, 9:33 am
#170
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Re: How to pack light, some tips
Make credence recognised that on 24 Aug 2007 16:22:05 -0800,
[email protected] (Eugene Miya) has scripted:
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>>"Doesn't Frequently Mop" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> a �crit
>>dans le message de news: [email protected]...
>>It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
>>cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
>>instead.
>
>Did you sign a pre-nup?
No, I just made sure she had her own money.
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[email protected] (Eugene Miya) has scripted:
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>>"Doesn't Frequently Mop" <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> a �crit
>>dans le message de news: [email protected]...
>>It's pretty simple. You woo them with flowers, and dump them when they
>>cost too much. Then when you're sick of that, marry a foreign girl
>>instead.
>
>Did you sign a pre-nup?
No, I just made sure she had her own money.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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