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Apr 30th 2003, 7:22 pm
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
"J-Ph" wrote in message
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> "GG" a écrit dans le message news:
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> > Well that's what I had always thought, but I was perplexed by Larousse's
> > system of indicating pronunciations.
> This system is right imo :
> Aix : [èks]
> paix : [pè]
> I don't see why you were perplexed.
> JPh
My comment was about their system in the second section of the dictionary
(Arts-Lettres-Sciences) where place names and other proper names are listed.
For many entries, no phonetic pronunciation is given. When the phonetic
pronunciation _is_ given, it seems to be in cases where the pronunciation
deviates from what one would expect, i.e. for Senlis they give [sanliss],
for Cassis no pronunciation given. Since a final 's' is not usually
pronounced in French, I would then assume that according to Larousse the
final 's' in Cassis is not pronounced. What confused me was that Larousse
gives a pronunciation [èks] for Aix-en-Provence, but doesn't give one for
any other of the Aix- entries which made me wonder if those were pronounced
differently for some reason.
GG
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> "GG" a écrit dans le message news:
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> > Well that's what I had always thought, but I was perplexed by Larousse's
> > system of indicating pronunciations.
> This system is right imo :
> Aix : [èks]
> paix : [pè]
> I don't see why you were perplexed.
> JPh
My comment was about their system in the second section of the dictionary
(Arts-Lettres-Sciences) where place names and other proper names are listed.
For many entries, no phonetic pronunciation is given. When the phonetic
pronunciation _is_ given, it seems to be in cases where the pronunciation
deviates from what one would expect, i.e. for Senlis they give [sanliss],
for Cassis no pronunciation given. Since a final 's' is not usually
pronounced in French, I would then assume that according to Larousse the
final 's' in Cassis is not pronounced. What confused me was that Larousse
gives a pronunciation [èks] for Aix-en-Provence, but doesn't give one for
any other of the Aix- entries which made me wonder if those were pronounced
differently for some reason.
GG
Apr 30th 2003, 7:26 pm
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
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J-Ph wrote:
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>>The Nouveau Petit Larousse Illustré gives [èks] in their entry for
>>Aix-en-Provence. Interestingly, though, there are several other entries
>>with Aix (Aix, Aix-en-Othe, Aix d'Angillon, Aix-la-Chapelle,
> Aix-les-Bains)
>>with no pronunciation given. I believe this means that the usual rule of
>>pronunciation applies, i.e. Aix would rhyme with paix (like pay in
> English).
> "Aix" (whatever Aix it is) doesn't rhyme with "paix" : the "x" in "paix"
is
> not pronounced.
> JPh
Unless the next word begins with a vowel, then it's prounced (like the
English S.)
Don't think so since "paix" is a noun and I don't think liaison occurs
between a noun and a following word.
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J-Ph wrote:
> "GG" a écrit dans le message news:
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>>The Nouveau Petit Larousse Illustré gives [èks] in their entry for
>>Aix-en-Provence. Interestingly, though, there are several other entries
>>with Aix (Aix, Aix-en-Othe, Aix d'Angillon, Aix-la-Chapelle,
> Aix-les-Bains)
>>with no pronunciation given. I believe this means that the usual rule of
>>pronunciation applies, i.e. Aix would rhyme with paix (like pay in
> English).
> "Aix" (whatever Aix it is) doesn't rhyme with "paix" : the "x" in "paix"
is
> not pronounced.
> JPh
Unless the next word begins with a vowel, then it's prounced (like the
English S.)
Don't think so since "paix" is a noun and I don't think liaison occurs
between a noun and a following word.
Apr 30th 2003, 9:00 pm
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
"GG" a écrit dans le message news:
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> My comment was about their system in the second section of the dictionary
> (Arts-Lettres-Sciences) where place names and other proper names are
listed.
> For many entries, no phonetic pronunciation is given. When the phonetic
> pronunciation _is_ given, it seems to be in cases where the pronunciation
> deviates from what one would expect, i.e. for Senlis they give [sanliss],
> for Cassis no pronunciation given. Since a final 's' is not usually
> pronounced in French,
No, but place names ending in "-is" often have the "s" pronounced.
> I would then assume that according to Larousse the
> final 's' in Cassis is not pronounced.
Which is right, but many people pronounce the "s".
> What confused me was that Larousse
> gives a pronunciation [èks] for Aix-en-Provence, but doesn't give one for
> any other of the Aix- entries which made me wonder if those were
pronounced
> differently for some reason.
Sorry, I hadn't understood. Sure, they should have given the pronounciation
for all "Aix" entries.
JPh
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> My comment was about their system in the second section of the dictionary
> (Arts-Lettres-Sciences) where place names and other proper names are
listed.
> For many entries, no phonetic pronunciation is given. When the phonetic
> pronunciation _is_ given, it seems to be in cases where the pronunciation
> deviates from what one would expect, i.e. for Senlis they give [sanliss],
> for Cassis no pronunciation given. Since a final 's' is not usually
> pronounced in French,
No, but place names ending in "-is" often have the "s" pronounced.
> I would then assume that according to Larousse the
> final 's' in Cassis is not pronounced.
Which is right, but many people pronounce the "s".
> What confused me was that Larousse
> gives a pronunciation [èks] for Aix-en-Provence, but doesn't give one for
> any other of the Aix- entries which made me wonder if those were
pronounced
> differently for some reason.
Sorry, I hadn't understood. Sure, they should have given the pronounciation
for all "Aix" entries.
JPh
Apr 30th 2003, 11:19 pm
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
"pikkio" wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:04:09 +0200, "J-Ph"
> wrote:
> >
> >"GG" a écrit dans le message news:
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> >>
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> The Nouveau Petit Larousse Illustré gives [èks] in their entry for
> >> Aix-en-Provence. Interestingly, though, there are several other
entries
> >> with Aix (Aix, Aix-en-Othe, Aix d'Angillon, Aix-la-Chapelle,
> >Aix-les-Bains)
> >> with no pronunciation given. I believe this means that the usual rule
of
> >> pronunciation applies, i.e. Aix would rhyme with paix (like pay in
> >English).
> >
> >
> >"Aix" (whatever Aix it is) doesn't rhyme with "paix" : the "x" in "paix"
is
> >not pronounced.
> >
> >JPh
> >
> 1. paix not rhyme with pay in English
> 2. the "x" in "Aix" is also not pronounced
The x in Aix was certainly pronounced on my many visits to France (by the
French I mean, not just me!).
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> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:04:09 +0200, "J-Ph"
> wrote:
> >
> >"GG" a écrit dans le message news:
> >[email protected]. ..
> >>
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> The Nouveau Petit Larousse Illustré gives [èks] in their entry for
> >> Aix-en-Provence. Interestingly, though, there are several other
entries
> >> with Aix (Aix, Aix-en-Othe, Aix d'Angillon, Aix-la-Chapelle,
> >Aix-les-Bains)
> >> with no pronunciation given. I believe this means that the usual rule
of
> >> pronunciation applies, i.e. Aix would rhyme with paix (like pay in
> >English).
> >
> >
> >"Aix" (whatever Aix it is) doesn't rhyme with "paix" : the "x" in "paix"
is
> >not pronounced.
> >
> >JPh
> >
> 1. paix not rhyme with pay in English
> 2. the "x" in "Aix" is also not pronounced
The x in Aix was certainly pronounced on my many visits to France (by the
French I mean, not just me!).
May 1st 2003, 6:24 am
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
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J-Ph wrote:
> Unless the next word begins with a vowel,
> then it's prounced (like the English S.)
The 'x' in Aix (-en-Provence) is always pronounced.
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J-Ph wrote:
> Unless the next word begins with a vowel,
> then it's prounced (like the English S.)
The 'x' in Aix (-en-Provence) is always pronounced.
May 1st 2003, 6:26 am
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
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> Don't think so since "paix" is a noun and I
> don't think liaison occurs between a noun
> and a following word.
Liaison is generally unrelated to the part of speech that a word represents.
Additionally, liaison between nouns and their following adjectives is among
the most durable types of liaison, used in all levels of speech.
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> Don't think so since "paix" is a noun and I
> don't think liaison occurs between a noun
> and a following word.
Liaison is generally unrelated to the part of speech that a word represents.
Additionally, liaison between nouns and their following adjectives is among
the most durable types of liaison, used in all levels of speech.
May 1st 2003, 7:06 pm
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
In article , RAK wrote:
>> 1. paix not rhyme with pay in English
>> 2. the "x" in "Aix" is also not pronounced
>The x in Aix was certainly pronounced on my many visits to France (by the
>French I mean, not just me!).
In my many visits to Aix-en-Provence, it has been pronounced "eks"
phil
>> 1. paix not rhyme with pay in English
>> 2. the "x" in "Aix" is also not pronounced
>The x in Aix was certainly pronounced on my many visits to France (by the
>French I mean, not just me!).
In my many visits to Aix-en-Provence, it has been pronounced "eks"
phil
May 1st 2003, 11:33 pm
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Re: How do you pronounce Aix?
Just pronoubce it EX (or EGGS)
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> > 1. paix not rhyme with pay in English
> Right.
> > 2. the "x" in "Aix" is also not pronounced
> Yes it is !
> JPh
"J-Ph" wrote in message
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> "pikkio" a écrit dans le message news:
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> > 1. paix not rhyme with pay in English
> Right.
> > 2. the "x" in "Aix" is also not pronounced
> Yes it is !
> JPh
