Bob Mounger

Greetings,

We are traveling in June from Copenhagen, Denmark to Spain.

I had asked previously about Copenhagen to London to Barcelona
& then train trip to Valencia.

After a short chance chat I have found that it would better for the
person we are visiting to go to Alicante. The Euromed train would get
there very late
so I am rethinking our procedure.

My question is this:

The two ways I can see to do this are either to get on EasyJet
& go from CPH to Stansted & then to ALC. However the layover
in London looks to be only 35 minutes.

Or, on the other hand, we could get on the bus & go to Malmo
& take Ryanair to Stansted & then transfer to EasyJet with a couple of
hours
for margin. But we also have to change not just planes but airlines.

Can anyone tell me how large Stansted is or offer advice as to
which of these seems better? We have USA passports.

Also is it Stansted or Stensted? I have seen it spelt both ways.

Thanks,

--
Bob Mounger

Not The Karl Orff

In article , Bob Mounger
wrote:

    > Greetings,
    >
    > We are traveling in June from Copenhagen, Denmark to Spain.
    >
    > I had asked previously about Copenhagen to London to Barcelona
    > & then train trip to Valencia.
    >
    > After a short chance chat I have found that it would better for the
    > person we are visiting to go to Alicante. The Euromed train would get
    > there very late
    > so I am rethinking our procedure.
    >
    > My question is this:
    >
    > The two ways I can see to do this are either to get on EasyJet
    > & go from CPH to Stansted & then to ALC. However the layover
    > in London looks to be only 35 minutes.
    >
    > Or, on the other hand, we could get on the bus & go to Malmo
    > & take Ryanair to Stansted & then transfer to EasyJet with a couple of
    > hours
    > for margin. But we also have to change not just planes but airlines.

I'd go for direct, or figure spending overnight in . If you miss a
flight on either, they won;t help you out too much, especially FR where
they won;t help you at all. Given the costs and hassle, try for a
direct flight.

    > Can anyone tell me how large Stansted is or offer advice as to
    > which of these seems better? We have USA passports.

Not as large at LHR or LGW but transfers w/o clearing
immigration/customs is next to impossible if not impossible. It is an
O&D airport, not a connecting one. U.S. passports would mean a possibly
longer wait through immigration.

    > Also is it Stansted or Stensted? I have seen it spelt both ways.

The former

Kristian

Bob Mounger wrote:
Sterling might be another alternative.They have flights between CPH
and Alicante.
http://booking.sterlingticket.com/sk...skylights.cgi?


Kristian
    > Greetings,
    > We are traveling in June from Copenhagen, Denmark to Spain.
    > I had asked previously about Copenhagen to London to Barcelona
    >& then train trip to Valencia.
    > After a short chance chat I have found that it would better for the
    >person we are visiting to go to Alicante. The Euromed train would get
    >there very late
    >so I am rethinking our procedure.
    > My question is this:
    > The two ways I can see to do this are either to get on EasyJet
    >& go from CPH to Stansted & then to ALC. However the layover
    >in London looks to be only 35 minutes.
    > Or, on the other hand, we could get on the bus & go to Malmo
    >& take Ryanair to Stansted & then transfer to EasyJet with a couple of
    >hours
    >for margin. But we also have to change not just planes but airlines.
    > Can anyone tell me how large Stansted is or offer advice as to
    >which of these seems better? We have USA passports.
    > Also is it Stansted or Stensted? I have seen it spelt both ways.
    > Thanks,
    >

Gernot Egger

"Bob Mounger" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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    > The two ways I can see to do this are either to get on EasyJet
    > & go from CPH to Stansted & then to ALC. However the layover
    > in London looks to be only 35 minutes.

No way to do so!
You have to check in at least 40 min. before departure in Stansted. And with
no frills airlines you cannot check through. And everything is at your own
rick. If you miss one flight - no matter who is responsible - it's your
problem. (And then it starts to get really expensive!)

    > Or, on the other hand, we could get on the bus & go to Malmo
    > & take Ryanair to Stansted & then transfer to EasyJet with a couple of
    > hours
    > for margin. But we also have to change not just planes but airlines.

In that case it does not make any difference that you have to change
airlines. You need at least 3 hours in Stansted for changing with no frill
airlines. You have to collect your lugguage and check in again. No matter
whetehr you fly Easyjet-Easyjet or Ryanair-Easyjet.

    > Can anyone tell me how large Stansted is or offer advice as to
    > which of these seems better? We have USA passports.

Stansted is quite big, but bot like CPH and small compared to LHR. You will
leave Schengen-area when travelling to the UK, so you will have a
passport-control.

IMO it is possible to do that with the no frills, but is it worth it? It is
lot of hassle and your are in real troubles if there is a problem with one
flight. Is it really so much cheaper than a direct-flight with a classical
airline.

lg Gernot

Gernot Egger

"Kristian" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:co00bvgkip5vdh8gccg7or3thfcgnu3...der.get2net.dk...
    > Bob Mounger wrote:
    > Sterling might be another alternative.They have flights between CPH
    > and Alicante.
    > http://booking.sterlingticket.com/sk...skylights.cgi?

Or Snowflake!
http://www.flysnowflake.com/snowflake/book.asp

lg Gernot

Not The Karl Orff

In article ,
"Gernot Egger" wrote:

    > "Kristian" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    > news:co00bvgkip5vdh8gccg7or3thfcgnu3...der.get2net.dk...
    > > Bob Mounger wrote:
    > > Sterling might be another alternative.They have flights between CPH
    > > and Alicante.
    > > http://booking.sterlingticket.com/sk...skylights.cgi?
    >
    > Or Snowflake!
    > http://www.flysnowflake.com/snowflake/book.asp

Hopefully both os these will be around when OP travels.

Jo

"Bob Mounger" wrote in message:

    > Can anyone tell me how large Stansted is or offer advice as to
    > which of these seems better? We have USA passports.

I'm not sure which flight you should take, but you are best advised to
take those flights which give you at least 90 mins in each airport to
connect. I have been to London Stansted Airport and it's quite big
(they use a train to get to each gate!). Nowhere near as big as
Brussels Airport though (I found myself sprinting through that airport
once - a total nightmare!). You have to check in at least 30 mins
before departure with both Ryanair and easyJet.

I have only travelled on Ryanair a few times but have travelled on
easyJet many times and I can say this - if you miss your flight with
easyJet they will transfer you to the next flight at no extra charge.
Especially if the delay is their fault (ie your easyJet flight from CPH
to Stansted was delayed). So that's one advantge if you choose to go
with the two easyJet flights. Ryanair and easyJet are big rivals and if
they hear you are late because of a flight you booked with the other
airline, they may not be as sympathetic about putting you on one of
their later flights!

    > Also is it Stansted or Stensted? I have seen it spelt both ways.

Stansted - as mentioned :-)

Good luck,

Jo

Bob Mounger

    > IMO it is possible to do that with the no frills, but is it worth it? It is
    > lot of hassle and your are in real troubles if there is a problem with one
    > flight. Is it really so much cheaper than a direct-flight with a classical
    > airline.
    >
    > lg Gernot

Thanks for your comments, but I have yet to see any
direct flights for this route.

The lowest fare I have seen for a regular airline
was $950/person with a stop in London Heathrow using two airlines.
If I take the Ryanair arrive Stansted 10:30/Easyjet depart 14:30 option,
then I am looking @ $105/person. I'm sure there are other incidentals,
but barring logistical impossibilities, I'm not sure there is that
big a difference in convenience, & there is a huge difference in price.

Please point out any mistakes in my thinking.

Cordially,

--
Bob Mounger

The Reid

Following up to Bob Mounger

    > I'm not sure there is that
    >big a difference in convenience, & there is a huge difference in price.

Stanstead being, for an airport, a pleasant place to spend a few
hours, perhaps just go for flights with a few hours gap. The seafod
bar in the concourse is rather good and will relieve you of the money
you saved :-)
--
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Not The Karl Orff

In article , Bob Mounger
wrote:

    > > IMO it is possible to do that with the no frills, but is it worth it? It is
    > > lot of hassle and your are in real troubles if there is a problem with one
    > > flight. Is it really so much cheaper than a direct-flight with a classical
    > > airline.
    > >
    > > lg Gernot
    >
    > Thanks for your comments, but I have yet to see any
    > direct flights for this route.
    >
    > The lowest fare I have seen for a regular airline
    > was $950/person with a stop in London Heathrow using two airlines.
    > If I take the Ryanair arrive Stansted 10:30/Easyjet depart 14:30 option,
    > then I am looking @ $105/person. I'm sure there are other incidentals,
    > but barring logistical impossibilities, I'm not sure there is that
    > big a difference in convenience, & there is a huge difference in price.

Remember, miss a connecting flight and you pay walk-up fare for the next
one.

Not The Karl Orff

In article , Bob Mounger
wrote:


    > Please point out any mistakes in my thinking.

It's a craps shoot. There may be 80-90% probability your connection
goes through smoothly and you save $800 but there's a chance that it'll
go against you and you end up spending a lot and lose time.

Kristian

Bob Mounger wrote:
    > Thanks for your comments, but I have yet to see any
    >direct flights for this route.
    > The lowest fare I have seen for a regular airline
    >was $950/person with a stop in London Heathrow using two airlines.
    >If I take the Ryanair arrive Stansted 10:30/Easyjet depart 14:30 option,
    >then I am looking @ $105/person. I'm sure there are other incidentals,
    >but barring logistical impossibilities, I'm not sure there is that
    >big a difference in convenience, & there is a huge difference in price.
    > Please point out any mistakes in my thinking.
    > Cordially,
--------------------
But there ARE direct flights between Copenhagen and Alicante.
At least two that were mentioned in previous posts . I don`t know if
they can beat the 105$ price you quote, but they are both budget
airlines.

Sterling are advertising 598 kr (about 100$) one way fares if you
travel before june the 15th (same deal for all of August)
www.sterlingticket.com

See also:
http://www.flysnowflake.com/snowflake/book.asp
Snowflake is a low cost airline owned by SAS.

Kristian

Bob Mounger

Kristian wrote:
    >
    > Bob Mounger wrote:
    > > Thanks for your comments, but I have yet to see any
    > >direct flights for this route.
    > > The lowest fare I have seen for a regular airline
    > >was $950/person with a stop in London Heathrow using two airlines.
    > >If I take the Ryanair arrive Stansted 10:30/Easyjet depart 14:30 option,
    > >then I am looking @ $105/person. I'm sure there are other incidentals,
    > >but barring logistical impossibilities, I'm not sure there is that
    > >big a difference in convenience, & there is a huge difference in price.
    > > Please point out any mistakes in my thinking.
    > > Cordially,
    > --------------------
    > But there ARE direct flights between Copenhagen and Alicante.
    > At least two that were mentioned in previous posts . I don`t know if
    > they can beat the 105$ price you quote, but they are both budget
    > airlines.
    >
    > Sterling are advertising 598 kr (about 100$) one way fares if you
    > travel before june the 15th (same deal for all of August)
    > www.sterlingticket.com
    >
    > See also:
    > http://www.flysnowflake.com/snowflake/book.asp
    > Snowflake is a low cost airline owned by SAS.
    >
    > Kristian

Greetings,

I apologize. I neglected to mention that we are traveling
Friday June 20th. It looked like to me that neither Snowflake nor
Sterling
flew this route on Fridays.

We are taking a Baltic cruise & then going to Spain to meet my
biological mother. The boat comes back to Copenhagen on the 19th.
Since I wasn't sure how long it would take for us to disentangle
ourselves
from the boat I allowed for an overnight there. This also gives us a
chance
to see something of Copenhagen.

Still asking for your help & advice,

bob

Lennart Petersen

"Not the Karl Orff" skrev i meddelandet
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    > In article , Bob Mounger
    > wrote:
    > > Please point out any mistakes in my thinking.
    > It's a craps shoot. There may be 80-90% probability your connection
    > goes through smoothly and you save $800 but there's a chance that it'll
    > go against you and you end up spending a lot and lose time.
Don't exaggerate. Ryanair officially advices against connections as
they're not guaranteed and you are a loser if the connection fails.
But nevertheless with a 4 hour connection time your odds for a connection
are much more than yours 80-90%. Ryanairs own statistic is that "97% of
the flights arrives on time" and
"99% arrives within one hour of scheduled arrival time"
So if you can accept the 1% risk I think a 4h Ryanair connection is a
reasonable alternative.
L.P

Not The Karl Orff

In article ,
"Lennart Petersen" wrote:

    > "Not the Karl Orff" skrev i meddelandet
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article , Bob Mounger
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > > Please point out any mistakes in my thinking.
    > >
    > > It's a craps shoot. There may be 80-90% probability your connection
    > > goes through smoothly and you save $800 but there's a chance that it'll
    > > go against you and you end up spending a lot and lose time.
    > Don't exaggerate. Ryanair officially advices against connections as
    > they're not guaranteed and you are a loser if the connection fails.
    > But nevertheless with a 4 hour connection time your odds for a connection
    > are much more than yours 80-90%. Ryanairs own statistic is that "97% of
    > the flights arrives on time" and
    > "99% arrives within one hour of scheduled arrival time"
    > So if you can accept the 1% risk I think a 4h Ryanair connection is a
    > reasonable alternative.

If those are the statistics. Don;'t forget the peace of mind
cost/premium.

The OP still has to disembark, clear U.K. immigration, reclaim bags,
clear U.k. customs before checking in for the onward flight.