Help with European travel
Jan 10th 2005 | 8:54 am
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Re: Help with European travel
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:44:19 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>In London I have bought produce in Chinatown, Camden market, Fulham
>>>market, and in all the supermarkets around. I have never found a
>>>decent tomato, and the capsicum peppers taste suspiciously like water.
>>>Broccoli is rarely crisp, and also flavourless. Also, chicken is
>>>usually packed full of water too, however that is achieved, I don't
>>>know.
>>It's injected. Try buying organic, free-range chicken from a decent
>>butcher and you'll really see the difference.
If you read "Not on the label" you'll find that the difference is
sometimes only the re-labeling that has been done in a factory
somewhere.
If you read up the rules on the definition of so called Organic Food
you might wonder why you are paying so much.
>I guess I am just wondering why I should need to. It's just another
>indicator of Londoners ability to put up with any crappy food. Plus
>the price of organic stuff in London is pretty horrendous!
Supermarket food is a European wide problem just as it is in the USA.
>>>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
>>So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
>Yes, every one of them.
You are that Ploughman :-)
>Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
>Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
The pricing of Dutch and UK cheese is very similar. The Dutch add
large amounts of salt to their cheese I assume to increase water
retention as they do the same to pork and bacon.
>There is a reason why the UK is not
>reknowned for its cheese, and that is because much better stuff is
>available nearby.
>(geez, I'm throwing a lot of crap at the UK lately! Perhaps I should
>remark on some of the things I like about the place, kind of as a
>counterbalance!)
If you prefer all Dutch cheese, especially the immature shite exported
to UK you are beyond redemption :-)
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Martin
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>In London I have bought produce in Chinatown, Camden market, Fulham
>>>market, and in all the supermarkets around. I have never found a
>>>decent tomato, and the capsicum peppers taste suspiciously like water.
>>>Broccoli is rarely crisp, and also flavourless. Also, chicken is
>>>usually packed full of water too, however that is achieved, I don't
>>>know.
>>It's injected. Try buying organic, free-range chicken from a decent
>>butcher and you'll really see the difference.
If you read "Not on the label" you'll find that the difference is
sometimes only the re-labeling that has been done in a factory
somewhere.
If you read up the rules on the definition of so called Organic Food
you might wonder why you are paying so much.
>I guess I am just wondering why I should need to. It's just another
>indicator of Londoners ability to put up with any crappy food. Plus
>the price of organic stuff in London is pretty horrendous!
Supermarket food is a European wide problem just as it is in the USA.
>>>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
>>So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
>Yes, every one of them.
You are that Ploughman :-)
>Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
>Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
The pricing of Dutch and UK cheese is very similar. The Dutch add
large amounts of salt to their cheese I assume to increase water
retention as they do the same to pork and bacon.
>There is a reason why the UK is not
>reknowned for its cheese, and that is because much better stuff is
>available nearby.
>(geez, I'm throwing a lot of crap at the UK lately! Perhaps I should
>remark on some of the things I like about the place, kind of as a
>counterbalance!)
If you prefer all Dutch cheese, especially the immature shite exported
to UK you are beyond redemption :-)
--
Martin
Jan 10th 2005 | 8:56 am
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Re: Help with European travel
Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
> >>In London I have bought produce in Chinatown, Camden market, Fulham
> >>market, and in all the supermarkets around. I have never found a
> >>decent tomato, and the capsicum peppers taste suspiciously like water.
> >>Broccoli is rarely crisp, and also flavourless. Also, chicken is
> >>usually packed full of water too, however that is achieved, I don't
> >>know.
> >
> >It's injected. Try buying organic, free-range chicken from a decent
> >butcher and you'll really see the difference.
>
> I guess I am just wondering why I should need to. It's just another
> indicator of Londoners ability to put up with any crappy food.
I didn't have much trouble buying non-injected chicken- I pointed out I
can buy it in a cheap multinational food store. (ALDI, and that's
because it's over the road from me.) Besides, I hate to break it to you,
but the injected chicken think is prevalent over a lot of Europe now,
and a lot of the stuff available here is from the Netherlands, and
they're not only exporting to the UK. Maybe it hasn't made it to Italy.
Give it time! My point is that you're picking in particular on London,
and I don't think that's the whole picture.
[]
> >>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
> >
> >So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
>
> Yes, every one of them.
>
> Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
> Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
Seriously, what have you tried? They're often quite different from the
others, true.
> There is a reason why the UK is not
> reknowned for its cheese, and that is because much better stuff is
> available nearby.
Just because a country isn't famous for something doesn't mean that that
'thing' is bad.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
> >>In London I have bought produce in Chinatown, Camden market, Fulham
> >>market, and in all the supermarkets around. I have never found a
> >>decent tomato, and the capsicum peppers taste suspiciously like water.
> >>Broccoli is rarely crisp, and also flavourless. Also, chicken is
> >>usually packed full of water too, however that is achieved, I don't
> >>know.
> >
> >It's injected. Try buying organic, free-range chicken from a decent
> >butcher and you'll really see the difference.
>
> I guess I am just wondering why I should need to. It's just another
> indicator of Londoners ability to put up with any crappy food.
I didn't have much trouble buying non-injected chicken- I pointed out I
can buy it in a cheap multinational food store. (ALDI, and that's
because it's over the road from me.) Besides, I hate to break it to you,
but the injected chicken think is prevalent over a lot of Europe now,
and a lot of the stuff available here is from the Netherlands, and
they're not only exporting to the UK. Maybe it hasn't made it to Italy.
Give it time! My point is that you're picking in particular on London,
and I don't think that's the whole picture.
[]
> >>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
> >
> >So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
>
> Yes, every one of them.
>
> Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
> Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
Seriously, what have you tried? They're often quite different from the
others, true.
> There is a reason why the UK is not
> reknowned for its cheese, and that is because much better stuff is
> available nearby.
Just because a country isn't famous for something doesn't mean that that
'thing' is bad.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jan 10th 2005 | 5:26 pm
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Re: Help with European travel
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:56:29 +0000, [email protected]
(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>> Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
>> Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
>Seriously, what have you tried? They're often quite different from the
>others, true.
Sheesh, alright then! I am coming over in the next week or two, and I
will indulge then.
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(chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>
>> Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
>> Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
>Seriously, what have you tried? They're often quite different from the
>others, true.
Sheesh, alright then! I am coming over in the next week or two, and I
will indulge then.
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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Jan 10th 2005 | 5:39 pm
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Re: Help with European travel
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Jan 10th 2005 | 10:51 pm
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Re: Help with European travel
Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:56:29 +0000, [email protected]
> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>
> >Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
>
> >>
> >> Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
> >> Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
> >
> >Seriously, what have you tried? They're often quite different from the
> >others, true.
>
> Sheesh, alright then! I am coming over in the next week or two, and I
> will indulge then.
And you have to try _all_ of them, in all parts of the country!
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David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:56:29 +0000, [email protected]
> (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn) wrote:
>
> >Deep Frayed Morgues <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
>
> >>
> >> Seriously, they are overpriced and underquality compared to
> >> Dutch/French/Italian cheeses.
> >
> >Seriously, what have you tried? They're often quite different from the
> >others, true.
>
> Sheesh, alright then! I am coming over in the next week or two, and I
> will indulge then.
And you have to try _all_ of them, in all parts of the country!
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jan 10th 2005 | 11:29 pm
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Re: Help with European travel
In article <[email protected]>, deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
>>So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
>Yes, every one of them.
Hmmm, I don't think you know your cheese. There's not much good soft cheese
from the UK, I may concede.
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
>><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
>>So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
>Yes, every one of them.
Hmmm, I don't think you know your cheese. There's not much good soft cheese
from the UK, I may concede.
Jan 10th 2005 | 11:33 pm
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Re: Help with European travel
rob <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu wrote:
> >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
> >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >>>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
> >>
> >>So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
> >
> >Yes, every one of them.
> >
> Hmmm, I don't think you know your cheese. There's not much good soft cheese
> from the UK, I may concede.
Oh, I've picked up some nice soft goats cheese from Harvey Nick's- but I
haven't had it for a while.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> In article <[email protected]>,
deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu wrote:
> >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:09:03 +0000, Julie <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 14:15:58 GMT, Deep Frayed Morgues
> >><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >>>Any decent cheese always comes from the continent too.
> >>
> >>So you've tried all 700+ cheeses produced in the UK?
> >
> >Yes, every one of them.
> >
> Hmmm, I don't think you know your cheese. There's not much good soft cheese
> from the UK, I may concede.
Oh, I've picked up some nice soft goats cheese from Harvey Nick's- but I
haven't had it for a while.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
