Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On 1 Aug 2005 04:03:47 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
    > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
    >
    > ...
    > ... chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco a
    > ... écrit :
    > ...
    > ... > Damn, I feel like a glass of Retsina, but I find they only taste good
    > ... > _in_ Greece!
    > ...
    > ... I asked for retsina at a beach taverna this summer. The guy said
    > ... sniffily that they didn't sell retsina, only "proper" wine. Similarly
    > ... they didn't have Greek coffee - only "kafe Italiano".
    >
    > Not even a frappé?

You can make that in your hotel room- waste of time ordering one!

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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 14:37:44 +0200, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >On 1 Aug 2005 04:03:47 -0700, in rec.travel.europe,
    > >[email protected] arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
    > >:
    > >
    > > ...
    > > ... chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco a
    > > ... écrit :
    > > ...
    > > ... > Damn, I feel like a glass of Retsina, but I find they only taste good
    > > ... > _in_ Greece!
    > > ...
    > > ... I asked for retsina at a beach taverna this summer. The guy said
    > > ... sniffily that they didn't sell retsina, only "proper" wine. Similarly
    > > ... they didn't have Greek coffee - only "kafe Italiano".
    > >
    > >Not even a frappé?
    >
    > Remember the days when some people took their own Nescafe and the cafe
    > supplied the hot water?

I ordered one for room service when I first went to Athens, and I got a
lovely silver tray with a glass full of water, and a packet of nescafe,
and about 34 packets of sugar.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:44:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On 1 Aug 2005 04:03:47 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > ...
... > ... chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco a
... > ... écrit :
... > ...
... > ... > Damn, I feel like a glass of Retsina, but I find they only taste good
... > ... > _in_ Greece!
... > ...
... > ... I asked for retsina at a beach taverna this summer. The guy said
... > ... sniffily that they didn't sell retsina, only "proper" wine. Similarly
... > ... they didn't have Greek coffee - only "kafe Italiano".
... >
... > Not even a frappé?
...
... You can make that in your hotel room- waste of time ordering one!

Sure. You'll only need a mixer, a tall glass, a spoon, icy water, sugar, milk and Nescafé.
Voilà ...

Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:44:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
    > [email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
    > th' barn and prestwich tesco) arranged some electrons, so they looked like
    > this :
    >
    > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
    > ... > Not even a frappé?
    > ...
    > ... You can make that in your hotel room- waste of time ordering one!
    >
    > Sure. You'll only need a mixer, a tall glass, a spoon, icy water, sugar,
    > milk and Nescafé. Voilà ...

Easy- usually, when in Greece, I have a fridge in my room, and you use
the plastic containers designed for that purpose. Put everything in it
(I don't use milk or sugar) and shake. Pour. Consume.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:04:46 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
    > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
    > ...
    > ... "Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > ... news:[email protected]...
    > ... > On 1 Aug 2005 00:16:43 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
    > ... arranged some
    > ... > electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ... >
    > ... > ... [Unable to load up or down a cuppla days. Here's a message
filed
    > ... > ... 7/31/2005 04:00]
    > ... > ...
    > ... > ... Gene Brabston wrote:
    > ... > ...
    > ... > ... > We have twelve days in Greece . . . How bout a quick trip to
    > ... > ... > Turkey????
    > ... > ...
    > ... > ... One of the biggest mistakes of my life was being in
Thessaloniki and
    > ... > ... not going the 170km to Istanbul!
    > ... >
    > ... > I've been to Istanbul and regret it. Two days wasted. What people
see in
    > ... that place, I'll
    > ... > never know.
    > ... >
    > ... I just cannot believe anyone feeling that. Unbelievably superb.
    > That's what a week visiting Cappadocia and Ephesus does to you. All I
wanted was to get
    > out of Istanbul asap. When you have seen one noisy, dirty city, you have
seen all...
    > Ephesus and Pergame were superb - Istanbul, no way!
Still totally unbelievable.
Wonderful architecture, unparalleled position, totally fascinating history.
OK, it has its 'city moments', especially outside of the old centre, but are
you therefore writing off Rome, Florence, et al?
Cairo, for instance, must be the most horrendous city I've ever visited, but
it's still fascinating!
You are the only person I have ever heard to knock Istanbul so totally.
Surely no-one else here agrees?

Surreyman

Magda a écrit :

    > On 1 Aug 2005 04:03:47 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
    > electrons, so they looked like this :
    > ...
    > ... chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco a
    > ... écrit :
    > ...
    > ... > Damn, I feel like a glass of Retsina, but I find they only taste good
    > ... > _in_ Greece!
    > ...
    > ... I asked for retsina at a beach taverna this summer. The guy said
    > ... sniffily that they didn't sell retsina, only "proper" wine. Similarly
    > ... they didn't have Greek coffee - only "kafe Italiano".
    > Not even a frappé?

Even frappés have gone up-market, often served with cream or
ice-cream, and at one place we stayed the "in" thing was "iced
cappuccino". Also - they now seem to be always made with an electric
whisk, not a crappy old brown plastic shaker.

Progress, eh?

Frappés are another thing that taste great on holiday, but really vile
if you try to recreate the experience back home, even if "home" is a
hot country.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...

chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco a
écrit :

    > Damn, I feel like a glass of Retsina, but I find they only taste good
    > _in_ Greece!

I asked for retsina at a beach taverna this summer. The guy said
sniffily that they didn't sell retsina, only "proper" wine. Similarly
they didn't have Greek coffee - only "kafe Italiano".

(I was reminded a bit of the Monty Python "cheese shop" sketch -
"retsina? sorry, not much call for it round here")


I drink the stuff by the gallon in Crete. No problem, as long as it's cold
enough!
By far the most refreshing wine that exists.

Surreyman

Magda a écrit :

    > Sure. You'll only need a mixer, a tall glass, a spoon, icy water, sugar, milk and Nescafé.
    > Voilà ...

"Horiste", shurely :-)

G;

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:59:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
[email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:44:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
... > [email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
... > th' barn and prestwich tesco) arranged some electrons, so they looked like
... > this :
... >
... > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
... []
... > ... > Not even a frappé?
... > ...
... > ... You can make that in your hotel room- waste of time ordering one!
... >
... > Sure. You'll only need a mixer, a tall glass, a spoon, icy water, sugar,
... > milk and Nescafé. Voilà ...
...
... Easy- usually, when in Greece, I have a fridge in my room, and you use
... the plastic containers designed for that purpose. Put everything in it
... (I don't use milk or sugar) and shake. Pour. Consume.

Philistine!

<[email protected]> wrote:

    > Also - they now seem to be always made with an electric
    > whisk, not a crappy old brown plastic shaker.

The tupperware is fine for the job.

    > Frappés are another thing that taste great on holiday, but really vile
    > if you try to recreate the experience back home, even if "home" is a
    > hot country.

Yes.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

a.spencer3 <[email protected]> wrote:

[]
    > I drink the stuff by the gallon in Crete. No problem, as long as it's cold
    > enough!
    > By far the most refreshing wine that exists.

Yes, but a bottle of Boutari Retsina from Tesco, 'enjoyed' on a damp,
chilly night in Manchester doesn't have the same appeal...

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:59:29 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
    > [email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of besses o'
    > th' barn and prestwich tesco) arranged some electrons, so they looked like
    > this :
    >
    > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ...
    > ... > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:44:46 +0100, in rec.travel.europe,
    > ... > [email protected] (chancellor of the duchy of
    > ... > besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco) arranged some electrons, so
    > ... > they looked like this :
    > ... >
    > ... > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
    > ... []
    > ... > ... > Not even a frappé?
    > ... > ...
    > ... > ... You can make that in your hotel room- waste of time ordering one!
    > ... >
    > ... > Sure. You'll only need a mixer, a tall glass, a spoon, icy water,
    > ... > sugar, milk and Nescafé. Voilà ...
    > ...
    > ... Easy- usually, when in Greece, I have a fridge in my room, and you use
    > ... the plastic containers designed for that purpose. Put everything in it
    > ... (I don't use milk or sugar) and shake. Pour. Consume.
    >
    > Philistine!

I prefer Pragmatist.

--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:01:49 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :

... Still totally unbelievable.
... Wonderful architecture, unparalleled position, totally fascinating history.
... OK, it has its 'city moments', especially outside of the old centre, but are
... you therefore writing off Rome, Florence, et al?
... Cairo, for instance, must be the most horrendous city I've ever visited, but
... it's still fascinating!
... You are the only person I have ever heard to knock Istanbul so totally.
... Surely no-one else here agrees?

Who cares? I still don't like Istanbul and hope I'll never go there again. There are much
better things to see in Turkey.

"Magda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:01:49 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "a.spencer3"
    > <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
this :
    > ... Still totally unbelievable.
    > ... Wonderful architecture, unparalleled position, totally fascinating
history.
    > ... OK, it has its 'city moments', especially outside of the old centre,
but are
    > ... you therefore writing off Rome, Florence, et al?
    > ... Cairo, for instance, must be the most horrendous city I've ever
visited, but
    > ... it's still fascinating!
    > ... You are the only person I have ever heard to knock Istanbul so
totally.
    > ... Surely no-one else here agrees?
    > Who cares? I still don't like Istanbul and hope I'll never go there again.
There are much
    > better things to see in Turkey.
I've 'done' most of Turkey and it truly is a largely unrealised pure
treasure.
But if I had to vote, I suspect I would still put Istanbul at the top.
I can offer you many distinctly less enjoyable Turkish areas ........!!
We'll just have to disagree.

Surreyman

"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1h0mci8.74gt73zkpgnjN%this_address_is_for_spa [email protected]...
    > a.spencer3 <[email protected]> wrote:
    > []
    > > I drink the stuff by the gallon in Crete. No problem, as long as it's
cold
    > > enough!
    > > By far the most refreshing wine that exists.
    > Yes, but a bottle of Boutari Retsina from Tesco, 'enjoyed' on a damp,
    > chilly night in Manchester doesn't have the same appeal...

Hmmmmm ... I always bring some bottles back and keep them well chilled.
Still great (for me!) with curries, Indonesian etc., even in humid misty old
Surrey.

Surreyman