Greece Itinerary
 

We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see???? How
bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
History and museums are a definite.

Thanks,

Gene Brabston

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

"Gene Brabston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected].. .
    > We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    > have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see????
    > How bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    > History and museums are a definite.
    > Thanks,
    > Gene Brabston

Best guide I know of is Matt Barrett at www.greecetravel.com and
www.greektravel.com

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

"Gene Brabston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected].. .
    > We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    > have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see????
How
    > bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    > History and museums are a definite.
Then, as well as the mainland, a 'must' side trip would be Crete for Knossos
and the associated splendid museum in Heraklion. Also, if poss, Rhodes Old
Town.

Surreyman

Surreyman

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

Gene Brabston wrote:
We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005.
We
have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to
see???? How
bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
History and museums are a definite.

There is plenty to do in Greece for your 12 days without going to
Turkey, and Istanbul is probably worth n itself a week alone. Do it on
another trip. I myself liked Mchelin's Green Guide to Greece, where it
has the sights rated, I believe correctly.

A number of years ago we visited Athens for a day, then rented a car
and drove mainly around the Peloponnese Peninsula for about a week
visiting Mycenae (classcal Greek ruins), Mystra (Byzantine ruins),
Monemvassia (Byzatine ruins), a boat trp through the Diros caves,
Olympia (classical Greek ruins wth the original Olympic stadium), and a
cogwheel train journey up the Vouraikos Gorge (get off half way up for
lunch, and then go back when the train returns, you've already seen the
best). Then crossing the Gulf of Corinth to Naupaktos (charming
harbor, Venetian citadel), Delphi (classical Greek ruins in a beautiful
mountain setting), and also the temple at Cape Sounion (classical
Greek). These were just the highlights, there are other interestng
things along the way. We then spent another week on Santorini, flyng
there via Athens, giving additional time for more Athens sightseeing.

I did most of this trip by myself wth my young teenagers who seemed to
enjoy it a lot. There is enough variety in the above trip and one type
of thing is not overemphasized.

You should have a pleasant trip.

George

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

a.spencer3 wrote:

    > "Gene Brabston" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected].. .
    >
    >>We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    >>have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see????
    >
    > How
    >
    >>bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    >>History and museums are a definite.
    >
    > Then, as well as the mainland, a 'must' side trip would be Crete for Knossos
    > and the associated splendid museum in Heraklion. Also, if poss, Rhodes Old
    > Town.

If they make it as far as Rhodes they could take the fast boat to
Marmaris, Turkey, about 2 hours if I recall correctly. Or catch a flight
from Rhodes to Santorini, about 1 hour, and island-hop into Athens.


    >
    > Surreyman
    >
    > Surreyman
    >
    >

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

On 29 Jul 2005 12:57:27 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Gene Brabston wrote:
    >We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005.
    >We
    >have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to
    >see???? How
    >bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    >History and museums are a definite.
    >There is plenty to do in Greece for your 12 days without going to
    >Turkey, and Istanbul is probably worth n itself a week alone. Do it on
    >another trip. I myself liked Mchelin's Green Guide to Greece, where it
    >has the sights rated, I believe correctly.
    >A number of years ago we visited Athens for a day, then rented a car
    >and drove mainly around the Peloponnese Peninsula for about a week
    >visiting Mycenae (classcal Greek ruins), Mystra (Byzantine ruins),
    >Monemvassia (Byzatine ruins), a boat trp through the Diros caves,
    >Olympia (classical Greek ruins wth the original Olympic stadium), and a
    >cogwheel train journey up the Vouraikos Gorge (get off half way up for
    >lunch, and then go back when the train returns, you've already seen the
    >best). Then crossing the Gulf of Corinth to Naupaktos (charming
    >harbor, Venetian citadel), Delphi (classical Greek ruins in a beautiful
    >mountain setting), and also the temple at Cape Sounion (classical
    >Greek). These were just the highlights, there are other interestng
    >things along the way. We then spent another week on Santorini, flyng
    >there via Athens, giving additional time for more Athens sightseeing.

We did almost exactly the same trip plus Tiryns, Epidaurus, Methoni,
Paros & Naxos in 1980.
--
Martin

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:38:49 +0100, Gene Brabston wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

    > We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    > have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see???? How
    > bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    > History and museums are a definite.
    >
It's always a temptation to try to do too much in a short time.

I wouldn't bother with Turkey. That's OK if you are in Rhodes for a couple of
weeks and get bored, but not if you want to see Greece.

Island hopping is great fun if you've got enough time, but 12 days is not
really enough, specially if you want to take a day or two to look around
Athens.

Like others I would recommend renting a car and touring around the
Peloponnese. I recently spent 3 weeks there and felt I had just scratched the
surface. The two unmissable ancient sites are Epidavros and Mycenae - if you
see nothing else, see these.

If you do rent a car, I would recommend not doing it in Athens but in some
smaller place near your destination. The traffic in and around Athens is
horrendous. I took a hydrofoil from Piraeus to Porto Cheli - a small resort
on the Peloponnese coast near the Island of Spetses and started from there.

It's worth doing a bit of reading before you go. Cadogen do a good guide to
the Peloponnese and Athens.

--
Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:42:12 GMT, Mike Lane <[email protected]> wrote:

    >On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:38:49 +0100, Gene Brabston wrote
    >(in article <[email protected]>):
    >> We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    >> have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see???? How
    >> bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    >> History and museums are a definite.
    >>
    >It's always a temptation to try to do too much in a short time.
    >I wouldn't bother with Turkey. That's OK if you are in Rhodes for a couple of
    >weeks and get bored, but not if you want to see Greece.
    >Island hopping is great fun if you've got enough time, but 12 days is not
    >really enough, specially if you want to take a day or two to look around
    >Athens.
    >Like others I would recommend renting a car and touring around the
    >Peloponnese. I recently spent 3 weeks there and felt I had just scratched the
    >surface. The two unmissable ancient sites are Epidavros and Mycenae - if you
    >see nothing else, see these.
    >If you do rent a car, I would recommend not doing it in Athens but in some
    >smaller place near your destination. The traffic in and around Athens is
    >horrendous. I took a hydrofoil from Piraeus to Porto Cheli - a small resort
    >on the Peloponnese coast near the Island of Spetses and started from there.
    >It's worth doing a bit of reading before you go. Cadogen do a good guide to
    >the Peloponnese and Athens.

and the Greek Islands. I also found the Blue Guide to Greece handy for
this type of holiday. The west coast of the Peloponnese has some of
the best beaches in Greece.
--
Martin

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

Mike Lane wrote:
    > On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:38:49 +0100, Gene Brabston wrote
    > (in article <[email protected]>):
    > > We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    > > have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see???? How
    > > bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    > > History and museums are a definite.
    > >
    > It's always a temptation to try to do too much in a short time.
    > I wouldn't bother with Turkey. That's OK if you are in Rhodes for a couple of
    > weeks and get bored, but not if you want to see Greece.
    > Island hopping is great fun if you've got enough time, but 12 days is not
    > really enough, specially if you want to take a day or two to look around
    > Athens.
    > Like others I would recommend renting a car and touring around the
    > Peloponnese. I recently spent 3 weeks there and felt I had just scratched the
    > surface. The two unmissable ancient sites are Epidavros and Mycenae - if you
    > see nothing else, see these.
    > If you do rent a car, I would recommend not doing it in Athens but in some
    > smaller place near your destination. The traffic in and around Athens is
    > horrendous. I took a hydrofoil from Piraeus to Porto Cheli - a small resort
    > on the Peloponnese coast near the Island of Spetses and started from there.
    > It's worth doing a bit of reading before you go. Cadogen do a good guide to
    > the Peloponnese and Athens.
    > --
    > Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
    > To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane

dont forget this one
http://www.greecetravel.com/meteora/monasteries.html

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

On 30 Jul 2005 10:01:01 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

    >dont forget this one
    >http://www.greecetravel.com/meteora/monasteries.html

Utterly fantastic.
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DDT Filled Mormons <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

    > On 30 Jul 2005 10:01:01 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > >dont forget this one
    > >http://www.greecetravel.com/meteora/monasteries.html
    >
    > Utterly fantastic.

Part of the James Bond European Tour, innit?

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Re: Greece Itinerary
 

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 20:30:28 +0100, BruceB wrote
(in article <[email protected] et>):

    >
    > Best guide I know of is Matt Barrett at www.greecetravel.com and
    > www.greektravel.com
    >
    >

I have to say that I beg to differ.

I have never found the Matt Barrett guide particularly useful. It seems to me
to contain little more than travelogue-type articles and photos of the kind
that you might see in any travel agent's brochure, or the kind of thing you
might pick up for free at the Greek Tourist offices. It is full of adverts
for hotels, travel agents, and services of one kind or another. There is very
little there of a useful, practical nature like timetables, prices, maps
etc., and little to warn you of the downside of any places you might visit.

In other words, like most things free on the internet it costs nothing to
read and is worth it.

--
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To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On 29 Jul 2005 12:57:27 -0700, "george" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >Gene Brabston wrote:
    > >We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005.
    > >We
    > >have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to
    > >see???? How
    > >bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    > >History and museums are a definite.
    > >
    > >There is plenty to do in Greece for your 12 days without going to
    > >Turkey, and Istanbul is probably worth n itself a week alone. Do it on
    > >another trip. I myself liked Mchelin's Green Guide to Greece, where it
    > >has the sights rated, I believe correctly.
    > >
    > >A number of years ago we visited Athens for a day, then rented a car
    > >and drove mainly around the Peloponnese Peninsula for about a week
    > >visiting Mycenae (classcal Greek ruins), Mystra (Byzantine ruins),
    > >Monemvassia (Byzatine ruins), a boat trp through the Diros caves,
    > >Olympia (classical Greek ruins wth the original Olympic stadium), and a
    > >cogwheel train journey up the Vouraikos Gorge (get off half way up for
    > >lunch, and then go back when the train returns, you've already seen the
    > >best). Then crossing the Gulf of Corinth to Naupaktos (charming
    > >harbor, Venetian citadel), Delphi (classical Greek ruins in a beautiful
    > >mountain setting), and also the temple at Cape Sounion (classical
    > >Greek). These were just the highlights, there are other interestng
    > >things along the way. We then spent another week on Santorini, flyng
    > >there via Athens, giving additional time for more Athens sightseeing.
    > We did almost exactly the same trip plus Tiryns, Epidaurus, Methoni,
    > Paros & Naxos in 1980.
    > --

Beat yer ... 1968!

Surreyman

Re: Greece Itinerary
 

On 2005-07-30 18:42:12 +0200, Mike Lane <[email protected]> said:

    > It's worth doing a bit of reading before you go. Cadogen do a good
    > guide to the Peloponnese and Athens.

The best book about Peleponnesos is "Flight of Ikaros" by Kevin
Andrews, an account of his travels largely in the Taygetos mountains
during the Greek civil war. It's out of print but used bookshops often
have it.

G;

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Re: Greece Itinerary
 

In article <[email protected]>, Gene Brabston
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > We are a family of three travelling to Greece in mid October of 2005. We
    > have twelve days in Greece. Suggestions for itinerary, places to see???? How
    > bout a quick trip to Turkey???? Recommended travel guide???
    > History and museums are a definite.

If you want history and museums, there are lots of great places in
Greece. You'll probably arrive in Athens - spend 3 days there visited
the Acropolis and the other sites, but there is also a big
archeological museum there. Other great places are old Corinth just
across the impressive isthmus canal, the very old and remote Mycennae,
and Olympia where the Games were first help. If I were you, I'd rent a
car after visiting Athens, as the buses while good aren't as flexible
as driving a car. So you can then drive out of the Peloponnese
penninsula to visit Delphi home the Oracle and in an incredible
setting. Budget a day each for these sites, so that's 4 days plus the
3 in Athens for a sum of 7. You should budget a day at each end for
contingency, so that's 9. For the other three days if I were you I'd
go back to Athens and take a flight to Santorini. The flights are
every few days, so check the schedule to make sure you get back in time
for your flight home.

    > Thanks,

Sure.

Here's my Greece site when I spent some time there a few years back.
It'll show you some of what I mean.

http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda/Gra...e/Menu204.html

    > Gene Brabston

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