[email protected] schrieb:
>
> On 25 jan, 16:34, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [email protected] schrieb:> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?No.
>
>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>
> That's probably trash being put out for collection,
On the road from Nikos Kasantzakis Airport to Heraklion?
In the middle of nowhere as soon as there is a bend in the road?
Maybe they should /start/ collecting then.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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Martin schrieb:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
>> No.
>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>
> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of thing.
Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.

Lots of Greetings!
Volker
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 25 Jan 2007 07:39:05 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >On 25 jan, 16:34, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote: >
> >[email protected] schrieb:> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer
> ><[email protected]> wrote: > > >> My first impression was
> >always the dirt. > > > Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?No.
> >
> >> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic
> >bottles,
> >> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
> >
> >That's probably trash being put out for collection, which occurs - in
> >Athens anyway - several times a week, unlike here (NL, once a week) or
> >UK (some areas once every two weeks).
>
> Organic and inorganic are collected in alternate weeks in the Leiden area.

Nice - so if you eat fish the remains are hanging around for 2 weeks!!

> In Greece I have seen northern Europeans collecting PEP bottles to take
> home for
> the 25cent deposit.

Hahaha - not Klompies by any chance? :-)


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"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:56:12 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:13:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >I haven't been to Greece since the euro, but based on trips in 1993,
> >> >1996, then 2000 and 2001, there seemed to be increases on every trip.
> >> >The euro certainly must have increased prices- it did so everywhere
> >> >else.
> >>
> >> or do "rich" foreign tourists push up prices?
> >
> >It's been getting visitors for quite a while though.
>
> Predominantly not so rich, or invaders.
>
> I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless
Scandinavian
> women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian men.
>
> I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.
> --
>
Sounds like maybe they didn't want men?!

Surreyman

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:52:01 +0100, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 25 Jan 2007 07:39:05 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >On 25 jan, 16:34, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote: >
>> >[email protected] schrieb:> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer
>> ><[email protected]> wrote: > > >> My first impression was
>> >always the dirt. > > > Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?No.
>> >
>> >> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic
>> >bottles,
>> >> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>> >
>> >That's probably trash being put out for collection, which occurs - in
>> >Athens anyway - several times a week, unlike here (NL, once a week) or
>> >UK (some areas once every two weeks).
>>
>> Organic and inorganic are collected in alternate weeks in the Leiden area.
>
>Nice - so if you eat fish the remains are hanging around for 2 weeks!!

The whole area is infested with giant bluebottles on organic day when the
weather is hot. One day there will be an outbreak of cholera.

Did you pay the fine in the end?

For Jim Gibbering - there was an article in the local Leiden/Malaria News about
how mosquitoes can and do breed indoors in the water of plant pots. The article
was written by somebody it had happened too - the Leiden's city biologist.

>
>> In Greece I have seen northern Europeans collecting PEP bottles to take
>> home for
>> the 25cent deposit.
>
>Hahaha - not Klompies by any chance? :-)

A wild guess or what? :-)
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
>
>
> On 25 jan, 15:26, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I find the Peleponnesos, better than either Crete or Rhodes.
>
> Another vote for Peleponnesos, especially as our house there is now
> habitable (no thanks to the plumber who thought it was a good idea for
> the toilets to flush onto the patio.)
>
> B;
>
But could it cope with the loo paper?!

Surreyman

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Martin schrieb:
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected] schrieb:
>>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
>>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
>>> No.
>>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic bottles,
>>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
>>
>> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort of thing.
>Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.

and Italy?
Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish interspersed with
Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern outskirts of Rome and by the
locals who dumped rubbish and picked up prostitutes on the way to work. One
prostitute used to solicit from a battered armchair on top of a pile of rubbish.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:06:12 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:56:12 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:13:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I haven't been to Greece since the euro, but based on trips in 1993,
>> >> >1996, then 2000 and 2001, there seemed to be increases on every trip.
>> >> >The euro certainly must have increased prices- it did so everywhere
>> >> >else.
>> >>
>> >> or do "rich" foreign tourists push up prices?
>> >
>> >It's been getting visitors for quite a while though.
>>
>> Predominantly not so rich, or invaders.
>>
>> I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless
>Scandinavian
>> women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian men.
>>
>> I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.

>Sounds like maybe they didn't want men?!

Possibly but it wasn't on the appropriate island for that.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:06:12 GMT, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless
>Scandinavian women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian men.

>> I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.

>Sounds like maybe they didn't want men?!

isn't Lesbos down that way?
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:28:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:


... Predominantly not so rich, or invaders.
...
... I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless Scandinavian
... women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian men.
...
... I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.

Because in May you were at school!

Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:06:12 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:56:12 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:13:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I haven't been to Greece since the euro, but based on trips in
1993,
> >> >> >1996, then 2000 and 2001, there seemed to be increases on every
trip.
> >> >> >The euro certainly must have increased prices- it did so everywhere
> >> >> >else.
> >> >>
> >> >> or do "rich" foreign tourists push up prices?
> >> >
> >> >It's been getting visitors for quite a while though.
> >>
> >> Predominantly not so rich, or invaders.
> >>
> >> I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless
> >Scandinavian
> >> women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian
men.
> >>
> >> I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.
>
> >Sounds like maybe they didn't want men?!
>
> Possibly but it wasn't on the appropriate island for that.


Was the island's name "Rita"...???

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Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:41:38 +0100, Volker Hetzer
<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Martin schrieb:
> >> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:34:11 +0100, Volker Hetzer
<[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> [email protected] schrieb:
> >>>> On 25 jan, 09:24, Volker Hetzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> My first impression was always the dirt.
> >>>> Eh? Dirt? Are you Howard Hughes?
> >>> No.
> >>> I'm simply not used of almost every road lined with empty plastic
bottles,
> >>> plastic bags, old fridges and whatnot.
> >>
> >> There are other places in Europe where you could get used to this sort
of thing.
> >Possibly. I've mainly been to western europe so far.
>
> and Italy?
> Around 19941996 I was impressed by the piles of rubbish interspersed with
> Nigerian prostitutes on rural roads on the southern outskirts of Rome and
by the
> locals who dumped rubbish and picked up prostitutes on the way to work.
One
> prostitute used to solicit from a battered armchair on top of a pile of
rubbish.
>


Not so different from Detroit, Michigan or East St. Louis, Illinois...

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Martin wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:03:50 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:24:33 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
<[email protected]>
> >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> >
> > ... On 25 Jan 2007 06:45:52 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> > ...
> > ... >
> > ... >
> > ... >On 25 jan, 15:26, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ... >
> > ... >> I find the Peleponnesos, better than either Crete or Rhodes.
> > ... >
> > ... >Another vote for Peleponnesos, especially as our house there is now
> > ... >habitable (no thanks to the plumber who thought it was a good idea
for
> > ... >the toilets to flush onto the patio.)
> > ...
> > ... "flush"? Do the Greeks have a word for it. :-)
> >
> >Erythima.
>
> Wrong sort of flush?


That's Jacqueline - speak for "birth control"...

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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:32:26 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:28:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
>
> ... Predominantly not so rich, or invaders.
> ...
> ... I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless Scandinavian
> ... women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian men.
> ...
> ... I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.
>
>Because in May you were at school!

How do you know when I married? I can assure you it was decades after I left
school.
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:33:41 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

... On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:32:26 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:28:44 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... >
... > ... Predominantly not so rich, or invaders.
... > ...
... > ... I never understood why in May the islands were full of topless Scandinavian
... > ... women travelling in pairs or alone, but no sign of any Scandinavian men.
... > ...
... > ... I never understood why nobody spread the word, when I was single.
... >
... >Because in May you were at school!
...
... How do you know when I married? I can assure you it was decades after I left
... school.

Somehow I imagine you getting married at 18.