friendliest nation?
Oct 9th 2006, 9:02 am
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Hello, Dave!
You wrote on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:31:18 +0200:
DFM> The Jews deserve nothing but admiration for what they have
DFM> achieved in the world, and the Muslims have very little to
DFM> show what they have contributed to it.
Your knowledge of history is remarkably deficient! Who do you
think preserved Greek culture in the European Dark Ages and made
tremendous contributions to science, mathematics and medecine
before the Renaissance?
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not
You wrote on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:31:18 +0200:
DFM> The Jews deserve nothing but admiration for what they have
DFM> achieved in the world, and the Muslims have very little to
DFM> show what they have contributed to it.
Your knowledge of history is remarkably deficient! Who do you
think preserved Greek culture in the European Dark Ages and made
tremendous contributions to science, mathematics and medecine
before the Renaissance?
James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not
Oct 9th 2006, 9:16 am
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>>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
>>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
>>>>> them?
>>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
>>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
>>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
>>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
>>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
>>>> him in 2001.
>>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
>>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
>>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
>>> action OK.
>> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
>> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
>> portrayal.
> Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
> ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
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<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
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>>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
>>>>> them?
>>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
>>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
>>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
>>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
>>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
>>>> him in 2001.
>>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
>>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
>>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
>>> action OK.
>> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
>> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
>> portrayal.
> Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
> ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
Oct 9th 2006, 10:53 am
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:16:25 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
>of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
>attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
>and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
>now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
>of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
Yeah, but either way, they're damned good at it. We should he half so
good.
-- Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
>of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
>attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
>and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
>now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
>of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
Yeah, but either way, they're damned good at it. We should he half so
good.
-- Larry
Oct 9th 2006, 2:18 pm
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> The Jews deserve nothing but admiration for what they have achieved in
> the world, and the Muslims have very little to show what they have
> contributed to it.
*Exactly*, DFM...
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Greg
> The Jews deserve nothing but admiration for what they have achieved in
> the world, and the Muslims have very little to show what they have
> contributed to it.
*Exactly*, DFM...
--
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Greg
Oct 9th 2006, 2:20 pm
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James Silverton wrote:
> Hello, Dave!
> You wrote on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:31:18 +0200:
> DFM> The Jews deserve nothing but admiration for what they have
> DFM> achieved in the world, and the Muslims have very little to
> DFM> show what they have contributed to it.
> Your knowledge of history is remarkably deficient! Who do you
> think preserved Greek culture in the European Dark Ages and made
> tremendous contributions to science, mathematics and medecine
> before the Renaissance?
And what *year* is it, James...???
Why are Muslim countries now shite holes from which people attempt to
escape/flee/emigrate and not the shining beacons they were centuries
ago...???
--
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Greg
> Hello, Dave!
> You wrote on Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:31:18 +0200:
> DFM> The Jews deserve nothing but admiration for what they have
> DFM> achieved in the world, and the Muslims have very little to
> DFM> show what they have contributed to it.
> Your knowledge of history is remarkably deficient! Who do you
> think preserved Greek culture in the European Dark Ages and made
> tremendous contributions to science, mathematics and medecine
> before the Renaissance?
And what *year* is it, James...???
Why are Muslim countries now shite holes from which people attempt to
escape/flee/emigrate and not the shining beacons they were centuries
ago...???
--
Best
Greg
Oct 9th 2006, 2:23 pm
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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> >>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
> >>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
> >>>>> them?
> >>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
> >>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
> >>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
> >>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
> >>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
> >>>> him in 2001.
> >>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
> >>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
> >>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
> >>> action OK.
> >> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
> >> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
> >> portrayal.
> > Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
> > ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
> Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
> of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
> attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
> http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
> and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
> now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
> of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
Yep, that's because the Israelis realise that its' "either kill or be
killed". It's "the law of the jungle", but unfortunately that's the way it
is -- the Jews learned valuable lessons from their treatment in the period
1933 - 1945.
--
Best
Greg
> >>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
> >>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
> >>>>> them?
> >>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
> >>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
> >>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
> >>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
> >>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
> >>>> him in 2001.
> >>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
> >>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
> >>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
> >>> action OK.
> >> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
> >> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
> >> portrayal.
> > Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
> > ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
> Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
> of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
> attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
> http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
> and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
> now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
> of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
Yep, that's because the Israelis realise that its' "either kill or be
killed". It's "the law of the jungle", but unfortunately that's the way it
is -- the Jews learned valuable lessons from their treatment in the period
1933 - 1945.
--
Best
Greg
Oct 9th 2006, 2:31 pm
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Re: friendliest nation?
Dave Frightens Me wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:47:55 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:45:57 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:17:45 +0100, Mike Reid <[email protected]>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:19:03 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>one of the few religions you can respect, I think.
> >>>>
> >>>>Weren't Pol Pot and his collaborators Buddhists?
> >>>
> >>>I didn't think you could be commie and a Buddhist?
> >>
> >>No, that's certainly not true. A lot of the Viet Cong were both
> >>communists and Buddhists.
> >
> >They also won and were in the right.
> The Viet Cong were definitely not in the right on an ideological
> level, and the communist government that rose from their victory
> against the Americans is attrocious.
Their *goals* might have been admirable but you are correct, the *execution*
(both literally and figuratively, heh) of those goals was atrocious. Same
deal with Cuba, the goals of the Revolution were laudable but look how poor
Cuba has ended up, the place truly sucks.
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Greg
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:47:55 +0200, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:45:57 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 13:17:45 +0100, Mike Reid <[email protected]>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:19:03 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>one of the few religions you can respect, I think.
> >>>>
> >>>>Weren't Pol Pot and his collaborators Buddhists?
> >>>
> >>>I didn't think you could be commie and a Buddhist?
> >>
> >>No, that's certainly not true. A lot of the Viet Cong were both
> >>communists and Buddhists.
> >
> >They also won and were in the right.
> The Viet Cong were definitely not in the right on an ideological
> level, and the communist government that rose from their victory
> against the Americans is attrocious.
Their *goals* might have been admirable but you are correct, the *execution*
(both literally and figuratively, heh) of those goals was atrocious. Same
deal with Cuba, the goals of the Revolution were laudable but look how poor
Cuba has ended up, the place truly sucks.
--
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Greg
Oct 9th 2006, 5:34 pm
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Their *goals* might have been admirable but you are correct, the *execution*
> (both literally and figuratively, heh) of those goals was atrocious. Same
> deal with Cuba, the goals of the Revolution were laudable but look how poor
> Cuba has ended up, the place truly sucks.
How would you know - you're not allowed to set foot there, in case you
find out differently!!
B;
> Their *goals* might have been admirable but you are correct, the *execution*
> (both literally and figuratively, heh) of those goals was atrocious. Same
> deal with Cuba, the goals of the Revolution were laudable but look how poor
> Cuba has ended up, the place truly sucks.
How would you know - you're not allowed to set foot there, in case you
find out differently!!
B;
Oct 9th 2006, 6:06 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Their *goals* might have been admirable but you are correct, the
*execution*
> > (both literally and figuratively, heh) of those goals was atrocious.
Same
> > deal with Cuba, the goals of the Revolution were laudable but look how
poor
> > Cuba has ended up, the place truly sucks.
> How would you know - you're not allowed to set foot there, in case you
> find out differently!!
I've not been to North Korea, Iran, Libya, Syria, Cuba, or any number of
other joke shitehole states. But I can tell you very truthfully that those
are places you (or I) would *not* want to live...
--
Best
Greg
> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > Their *goals* might have been admirable but you are correct, the
*execution*
> > (both literally and figuratively, heh) of those goals was atrocious.
Same
> > deal with Cuba, the goals of the Revolution were laudable but look how
poor
> > Cuba has ended up, the place truly sucks.
> How would you know - you're not allowed to set foot there, in case you
> find out differently!!
I've not been to North Korea, Iran, Libya, Syria, Cuba, or any number of
other joke shitehole states. But I can tell you very truthfully that those
are places you (or I) would *not* want to live...
--
Best
Greg
Oct 9th 2006, 7:30 pm
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:16:25 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
>>>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
>>>>>> them?
>>>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
>>>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
>>>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
>>>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
>>>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
>>>>> him in 2001.
>>>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
>>>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
>>>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
>>>> action OK.
>>> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
>>> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
>>> portrayal.
>> Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
>> ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
>Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
>of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
>attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
>http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
>and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
>now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
>of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
You should read what I was responding to.
Without that context, what you say is correct, but I was referring to
how they deal with negative media portrayal.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
>>>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
>>>>>> them?
>>>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
>>>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
>>>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
>>>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
>>>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
>>>>> him in 2001.
>>>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
>>>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
>>>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
>>>> action OK.
>>> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
>>> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
>>> portrayal.
>> Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
>> ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
>Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
>of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
>attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
>http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
>and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
>now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
>of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
You should read what I was responding to.
Without that context, what you say is correct, but I was referring to
how they deal with negative media portrayal.
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Oct 9th 2006, 8:08 pm
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:23:57 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
>> >>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
>> >>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
>> >>>>> them?
>> >>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
>> >>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
>> >>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
>> >>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
>> >>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
>> >>>> him in 2001.
>> >>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
>> >>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
>> >>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
>> >>> action OK.
>> >> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
>> >> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
>> >> portrayal.
>> > Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
>> > ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
>> Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
>> of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
>> attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
>> http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
>> and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
>> now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
>> of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
>Yep, that's because the Israelis realise that its' "either kill or be
>killed". It's "the law of the jungle", but unfortunately that's the way it
>is -- the Jews learned valuable lessons from their treatment in the period
>1933 - 1945.
How to persecute a defenseless minority?
--
Martin
<gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
>> >>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
>> >>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
>> >>>>> them?
>> >>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
>> >>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
>> >>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
>> >>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
>> >>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
>> >>>> him in 2001.
>> >>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
>> >>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
>> >>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
>> >>> action OK.
>> >> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
>> >> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
>> >> portrayal.
>> > Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
>> > ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
>> Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
>> of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
>> attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
>> http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
>> and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
>> now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
>> of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
>Yep, that's because the Israelis realise that its' "either kill or be
>killed". It's "the law of the jungle", but unfortunately that's the way it
>is -- the Jews learned valuable lessons from their treatment in the period
>1933 - 1945.
How to persecute a defenseless minority?
--
Martin
Oct 9th 2006, 8:29 pm
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Dave Frightens Me schreef:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:16:25 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
> >>>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
> >>>>>> them?
> >>>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
> >>>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
> >>>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
> >>>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
> >>>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
> >>>>> him in 2001.
> >>>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
> >>>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
> >>>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
> >>>> action OK.
> >>> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
> >>> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
> >>> portrayal.
> >> Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
> >> ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
> >
> >Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
> >of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
> >attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
> >
> >http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
> >
> >and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
> >now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
> >of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
> You should read what I was responding to.
> Without that context, what you say is correct, but I was referring to
> how they deal with negative media portrayal.
'xactly. By shooting journalists.
B;
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:16:25 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> you certainly do get over sensitivity from some Jews, but remind me
> >>>>>> when they last murdered a film director who made a film critical of
> >>>>>> them?
> >>>>> There aren't many film directiors who get funding to make such films,
> >>>>> but look what happens to journalists who criticize Israel:
> >>>>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0305/S00208.htm
> >>>>> Or Ghassan Kanafani for writing about them. Or Jamal Mansour, the PR
> >>>>> man murdered by the Israelis along with two journalists interviewing
> >>>>> him in 2001.
> >>>> I dont believe in rebuffing criticism of muslims with a criticism of
> >>>> Israelis. Muslim intolerance is bad, the Israeli actions were no doubt
> >>>> bad too. I dont see how an Isreali bad action makes a muslim bad
> >>>> action OK.
> >>> Jack wasn't rebuffing criticism of muslims, he was responding directly
> >>> to the suggestion that Jews react less violently to negative media
> >>> portrayal.
> >> Indeed, because they are smart enough to know there are more effective
> >> ways of dealing with it than death threats, assassinations, etc.
> >
> >Bollocks. Israel has the most blatant *official* policy of assassination
> >of any state in the world, and they've been at it for decades with no
> >attempt whatever at secrecy. They murdered Kanafani back in 1972
> >
> >http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story168.html
> >
> >and have been at it steadily ever since, the main change being that they
> >now use cruise missiles and kill whole buildings full of people instead
> >of using gunmen and boobytrapped cars.
> You should read what I was responding to.
> Without that context, what you say is correct, but I was referring to
> how they deal with negative media portrayal.
'xactly. By shooting journalists.
B;
Oct 9th 2006, 8:55 pm
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:06:08 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>> How would you know - you're not allowed to set foot there, in case you
>> find out differently!!
>I've not been to North Korea, Iran, Libya, Syria, Cuba, or any number of
>other joke shitehole states. But I can tell you very truthfully that those
>are places you (or I) would *not* want to live...
not live, but people here who have visited Cuba enjoyed it.
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
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<gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>> How would you know - you're not allowed to set foot there, in case you
>> find out differently!!
>I've not been to North Korea, Iran, Libya, Syria, Cuba, or any number of
>other joke shitehole states. But I can tell you very truthfully that those
>are places you (or I) would *not* want to live...
not live, but people here who have visited Cuba enjoyed it.
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Oct 9th 2006, 8:55 pm
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Re: friendliest nation?
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:20:37 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>Why are Muslim countries now shite holes from which people attempt to
>escape/flee/emigrate and not the shining beacons they were centuries
>ago...???
probably because they have lost the correct balance between science
and learning and religion in the same way the catholic countries fell
behind the protestants where it was easier to point out religious
facts were total bollocks.
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<gregorymorrowBEYONDTHEVALLEYOFTHELOAFHEADS@earthl ink.net> wrote:
>Why are Muslim countries now shite holes from which people attempt to
>escape/flee/emigrate and not the shining beacons they were centuries
>ago...???
probably because they have lost the correct balance between science
and learning and religion in the same way the catholic countries fell
behind the protestants where it was easier to point out religious
facts were total bollocks.
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Mike Reid
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Oct 9th 2006, 8:55 pm
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Re: friendliest nation?
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:45:57 +0200, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>I didn't think you could be commie and a Buddhist?
>No, that's certainly not true. A lot of the Viet Cong were both
>communists and Buddhists.
that's a bit odd, isn't it?
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Mike Reid
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>>I didn't think you could be commie and a Buddhist?
>No, that's certainly not true. A lot of the Viet Cong were both
>communists and Buddhists.
that's a bit odd, isn't it?
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