"Mark Holden" wrote in
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    > one friend of mine complained later that he had his 65 YO mother in the
    > car, and she didn't like it.
    > maybe you were hogging the road, and he thout YOU were being rude...

good point Mark, French car drivers have a reputation of consideration
towards 2 wheelers, when compared to the UK especially

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le Sun, 02 Mar 2003 22:10:05 GMT, dans l'article , Mark Holden a dit ...

    >> > I mean by crazy that while driving at insane speeds, reach over
    >> > and hit the hood of the car that they want to slow down so that the
    >> > motorcycle can break into the lane. I was doing 165 kmh and this guy
    >> > was pounding on the hood of the car!

    >> Ho, ho, ho ... nice troll. Now go away and play elsewhere.

    > I only pound on cars [and vans] of people I know when I pass them on the
    > highway; it's always good for a laugh.

I've 'bagged' one or two rearview mirrors in my time, but frankly, it was
the bit about banging on the 'hood' (sic) of the car at (IIRC) 165 km/h
which amused me. I've ridden between two lanes of traffic at ridiculous
speeds (the A13 West of Cergy-Pontoise, and the A6 near the junction with
the A10 are very good for this), but the thought of touching the car at
that speed, is silly. The driver would only have to move his wheel a
fraction of an inch, for you to be sent into orbit.

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le 1 Mar 2003 13:44:45 GMT, dans l'article , wessie a dit ...

    >>>>> I was doing 165 kmh and this guy was pounding on the hood of the
    >>>>> car!

    >>>> Shame it wasn't a white BMW motorcycle then.

    >>> aren't they blue in France?

    >> Only the Gendarmerie ones. The Police Nationale ('CRS') ones are white.

    > Admittedly, most of my miles in France have been on rural roads with only
    > very occasional glimpses of blue lights.

The Gendarmerie handle traffic law in the provinces, the CRS are tasked
with this in and around major towns. I wrote this page for UKRM a while
back, if anyone wants to get a rough idea of the differences, plus pick up
some basic 'motoring' vocabulary ...

url:http://www.zeouane.org/moto/vocabulaire_moto.html

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fyi,

The new government under Sarkozy's initiative is about to introduce a
set of rules that will significantly strengthen sanctions against
drivers and motorcycles.. Presented in Dec. 2002, the new guidelines
will be effective starting in April/May of this year. New guidelines
include the deployment of 1000+ radars in the next three years,
automation of the fining process, creation of three new offenses
(stronger sanctions against speed, driving under influence of alcohol
or controled substances), overhaul of the driving licence delivery,
compulsory medical exams for drivers 75+ every two years...
For more information,
http://www.moto-net.com/p_article.php?RefArticle=297

Stephane (your Tyzo.com friend)

On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:09:06 +0000, Stephane wrote:

    > fyi,
    >
    > The new government under Sarkozy's initiative is about to introduce a
    > set of rules that will significantly strengthen sanctions against
    > drivers and motorcycles.. Presented in Dec. 2002, the new guidelines
    > will be effective starting in April/May of this year. New guidelines
    > include the deployment of 1000+ radars in the next three years,
    > automation of the fining process, creation of three new offenses
    > (stronger sanctions against speed, driving under influence of alcohol
    > or controled substances), overhaul of the driving licence delivery,
    > compulsory medical exams for drivers 75+ every two years...
    > For more information,
    > http://www.moto-net.com/p_article.php?RefArticle=297


But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking through
between lines of cars?

"devil" wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:09:06 +0000, Stephane wrote:

    > But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking through
    > between lines of cars?

Sneaking?
It's just not fair when they do that is it?

Adrian.
www.eurodriveregs.co.uk

le Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:00:46 GMT, dans l'article , devil a dit ...

    >> The new government under Sarkozy's initiative is about to introduce a
    >> set of rules that will significantly strengthen sanctions against
    >> drivers and motorcycles.. Presented in Dec. 2002, the new guidelines
    >> will be effective starting in April/May of this year. New guidelines
    >> include the deployment of 1000+ radars in the next three years,
    >> automation of the fining process, creation of three new offenses
    >> (stronger sanctions against speed, driving under influence of alcohol
    >> or controled substances), overhaul of the driving licence delivery,
    >> compulsory medical exams for drivers 75+ every two years...
    >> For more information,
    >> http://www.moto-net.com/p_article.php?RefArticle=297

    > But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking through
    > between lines of cars?

Why should they ?

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In article ,
Desmond Coughlan wrote:

    > le Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:00:46 GMT, dans l'article
    > , devil a
    > dit ...
    >
    > >> The new government under Sarkozy's initiative is about to introduce a
    > >> set of rules that will significantly strengthen sanctions against
    > >> drivers and motorcycles.. Presented in Dec. 2002, the new guidelines
    > >> will be effective starting in April/May of this year. New guidelines
    > >> include the deployment of 1000+ radars in the next three years,
    > >> automation of the fining process, creation of three new offenses
    > >> (stronger sanctions against speed, driving under influence of alcohol
    > >> or controled substances), overhaul of the driving licence delivery,
    > >> compulsory medical exams for drivers 75+ every two years...
    > >> For more information,
    > >> http://www.moto-net.com/p_article.php?RefArticle=297
    >
    > > But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking through
    > > between lines of cars?
    >
    > Why should they ?


At least if they do it on the right side (#1 lane), illegal in most
states in the U.S.

jay
Mon, Mar 3, 2003
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Desmond Coughlan wrote:
    >> But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking through
    >> between lines of cars?
    > Why should they ?

Because it makes drivers jealous.

miguel
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le Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:14:00 GMT, dans l'article , Go Fig a dit ...

{ snip }

    >> > But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking through
    >> > between lines of cars?

    >> Why should they ?

    > At least if they do it on the right side (#1 lane), illegal in most
    > states in the U.S.

'right' as in correct, or 'right' as in 'right-hand-side' ?

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le Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:22:13 GMT, dans l'article , Miguel Cruz a dit ...

    >>> But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking
    >>> through between lines of cars?

    >> Why should they ?

    > Because it makes drivers jealous.

Good. ;-)

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In article ,
Desmond Coughlan wrote:

    > le Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:14:00 GMT, dans l'article
    > , Go Fig a dit
    > ...
    >
    > { snip }
    >
    > >> > But are they even trying to put an end to the practice of sneaking
    > >> > through
    > >> > between lines of cars?
    >
    > >> Why should they ?
    >
    > > At least if they do it on the right side (#1 lane), illegal in most
    > > states in the U.S.
    >
    > 'right' as in correct, or 'right' as in 'right-hand-side' ?


Right hand side, this is because driver making right turns should not be
expected to look where there is no lane.

jay
Mon, Mar 3, 2003
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Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

le 3 Mar 2003 09:09:06 -0800, dans l'article , Stephane a dit ...

    > The new government under Sarkozy's initiative is about to introduce a
    > set of rules that will significantly strengthen sanctions against
    > drivers and motorcycles.. Presented in Dec. 2002, the new guidelines
    > will be effective starting in April/May of this year. New guidelines
    > include the deployment of 1000+ radars in the next three years,
    > automation of the fining process, creation of three new offenses
    > (stronger sanctions against speed, driving under influence of alcohol
    > or controled substances), overhaul of the driving licence delivery,
    > compulsory medical exams for drivers 75+ every two years...
    > For more information,
    > http://www.moto-net.com/p_article.php?RefArticle=297

Some of these will (I hope) be struck down by the Conseil Constitutionnel.

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Go Fig wrote:
    >> 'right' as in correct, or 'right' as in 'right-hand-side' ?
    > Right hand side, this is because driver making right turns should not be
    > expected to look where there is no lane.

It people would learn to use their turn signals this would become less of a
problem.

I propose a system whereby you have to put a deposit of $500 in your car
before you can drive it. Any time your car detects that you have made a turn
without signalling, $10 is deducted from your account. Others have proposed
making it impossible to turn unless the signal has been engaged for at least
10 seconds, but I think there would be some serious safety implications to
that.

miguel
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le Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:44:43 GMT, dans l'article , Go Fig a dit ...

    >> 'right' as in correct, or 'right' as in 'right-hand-side' ?

    > Right hand side, this is because driver making right turns should not be
    > expected to look where there is no lane.

OK. Erm ... where is the connection with French motorcyclists ?

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