Europe Favorites
Dec 10th 2004, 12:28 am
#76
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Re: Europe Favorites
Calif Bill wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
[snip]
> > This is a tad difficult for me. Reading the responses, much of
> > them have to do with food and wine. On that basis, I'd probably
> > say Italy. Italy does pretty well on history as well. The walking
> > in Britain is better, and London itself is probably one of my more
> > favorite cities. Lots of theater, wide variety of food, great
walking
> > town, excellent flight options from my home town. Only real downer
> > is that it is pretty expensive.
> >
> > I usually suggest that folks go for their first time to Europe by
> > going to London. It's "all different" but you'll speak the
language.
> > Rome is probably #2 because in many ways you'll "know" alot about
it
> > before you ever get there (the Vatican, the coloseum, etc).
> >
> London is somewhat a downer because of the overall cost. Theater is
one of
> the reasonable items, but overall, very expensive. Used to go on
business
> and even on expense account, you noticed that the place was over
priced.
Not sure you meant this, but it is expensive, but I'm not sure it's
"over" priced. New York ain't cheap. Rome is probably more expensive
for tourists. I hear Tokyo is one of the worst. It is what it is
and that includes some expensive features. It does have the advantage
that it is well spread out and one can pick and choose the balance
between
tube travel and hotel location/price.
And as you say, some things like theater can be very reasonably
priced.
It is possible to eat simply and relatively inexpensively. And there
are alot of relatively free or low cost places to visit and things to
do. If nothing else, the large parks make for lovely places to have a
picnic.
> For a major city, Paris is one of the most reasonable and easy access
to
> Normandy as well as lots to see and do while in Paris.
Paris is a beautiful city and a great walking town. Art, music,
food,
wine, it's got alot going for it. And it's people have a certain pace
to them which should be experienced.
> I enjoy water areas
> the most, and Majorca is very high on my most loved in Europe places,
but is
> a lot more laid back than most areas.
There is something about water, especially BIG water like oceans
which
seems to draw a fair number of us isn't there.
> As to Italy, Rome and Pompeii are
> nice, but after a few days, the massiveness of the area and ruins
start
> running together.
Italy in general, and Rome in particular has an unfathomable amount
of history right there, at the very least of western culture history.
My first trip to Roma was for 9 days and allowed me to pace myself
and form "themes". It has allowed me on subsequent trips to be
much more focused on certian places and activities as well as just
"see" Rome today.
> I loved Ischia, and is also a less active place. Being I
> am a San Francisco area native, I try to go to smaller towns,
Not a crack, just kinda curious what this means? It seems a bit
oxymoronic to me.
> Amalfi,
> Sorrento, etc are very relaxing, as well as nice to sight see. South
of
> France and Avignon during the music festival is very enjoyable.
Overall,
> you have to have an idea of what you like and plan to see those
places that
> have more of that and less of other items.
True of almost any sparsely populated area I think. You'd better
kinda know and plan in advance why you are there. They tend NOT to
be 24/7 kinda places and you can easily be there the "wrong" week,
especially with respect to weather.
> Since the wife and I are not art
> museum lovers, we like the areas with nice small eateries and natural
> beauty. As well as fun places to picnic. A couple of great
highlights
> from our last trip were the coming back from a trip outside Sienna to
walk
> in to a community (Contrada) dinner for one of neighborhoods. They
had the
> last 4 winning horses from the Palio there. Another great highlight
was a
> Marrone (Chestnut) festival in a little village in the Cinque Terre.
Years
> ago (1985) we ended up in a hotel on Piazza Erbe in Verona. Come out
to the
> balcony to see the market. Walk over and have a great time wandering
> through the market. Take enough time to enjoy the area you are in
and then
> leave to another area.
We feel guilty some times when we travel because we are often more
interested in just a nice walk through a neighborhood, stopping at the
local grocery, picking out a restaurant for the evening meal, that
kinda
thing that visiting the local museum or bajillion year old church.
I hesitate to admit that I've been to Paris multiple times and have yet
to visit the Louvre because the lines always so long and I rather just
take a nice walk through the neighborhoods or parks.
> If you find it is not to your liking, move. One of
> the reasons we travel with only reservations for the arrival and
departure
> days.
One of the nice things about the self guided walking tours we take
is
that we can visit VERY small towns and know that we will be able to
move
on the next day. Takes alot of the "pressure" off of visiting a town.
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] oups.com...
[snip]
> > This is a tad difficult for me. Reading the responses, much of
> > them have to do with food and wine. On that basis, I'd probably
> > say Italy. Italy does pretty well on history as well. The walking
> > in Britain is better, and London itself is probably one of my more
> > favorite cities. Lots of theater, wide variety of food, great
walking
> > town, excellent flight options from my home town. Only real downer
> > is that it is pretty expensive.
> >
> > I usually suggest that folks go for their first time to Europe by
> > going to London. It's "all different" but you'll speak the
language.
> > Rome is probably #2 because in many ways you'll "know" alot about
it
> > before you ever get there (the Vatican, the coloseum, etc).
> >
> London is somewhat a downer because of the overall cost. Theater is
one of
> the reasonable items, but overall, very expensive. Used to go on
business
> and even on expense account, you noticed that the place was over
priced.
Not sure you meant this, but it is expensive, but I'm not sure it's
"over" priced. New York ain't cheap. Rome is probably more expensive
for tourists. I hear Tokyo is one of the worst. It is what it is
and that includes some expensive features. It does have the advantage
that it is well spread out and one can pick and choose the balance
between
tube travel and hotel location/price.
And as you say, some things like theater can be very reasonably
priced.
It is possible to eat simply and relatively inexpensively. And there
are alot of relatively free or low cost places to visit and things to
do. If nothing else, the large parks make for lovely places to have a
picnic.
> For a major city, Paris is one of the most reasonable and easy access
to
> Normandy as well as lots to see and do while in Paris.
Paris is a beautiful city and a great walking town. Art, music,
food,
wine, it's got alot going for it. And it's people have a certain pace
to them which should be experienced.
> I enjoy water areas
> the most, and Majorca is very high on my most loved in Europe places,
but is
> a lot more laid back than most areas.
There is something about water, especially BIG water like oceans
which
seems to draw a fair number of us isn't there.
> As to Italy, Rome and Pompeii are
> nice, but after a few days, the massiveness of the area and ruins
start
> running together.
Italy in general, and Rome in particular has an unfathomable amount
of history right there, at the very least of western culture history.
My first trip to Roma was for 9 days and allowed me to pace myself
and form "themes". It has allowed me on subsequent trips to be
much more focused on certian places and activities as well as just
"see" Rome today.
> I loved Ischia, and is also a less active place. Being I
> am a San Francisco area native, I try to go to smaller towns,
Not a crack, just kinda curious what this means? It seems a bit
oxymoronic to me.
> Amalfi,
> Sorrento, etc are very relaxing, as well as nice to sight see. South
of
> France and Avignon during the music festival is very enjoyable.
Overall,
> you have to have an idea of what you like and plan to see those
places that
> have more of that and less of other items.
True of almost any sparsely populated area I think. You'd better
kinda know and plan in advance why you are there. They tend NOT to
be 24/7 kinda places and you can easily be there the "wrong" week,
especially with respect to weather.
> Since the wife and I are not art
> museum lovers, we like the areas with nice small eateries and natural
> beauty. As well as fun places to picnic. A couple of great
highlights
> from our last trip were the coming back from a trip outside Sienna to
walk
> in to a community (Contrada) dinner for one of neighborhoods. They
had the
> last 4 winning horses from the Palio there. Another great highlight
was a
> Marrone (Chestnut) festival in a little village in the Cinque Terre.
Years
> ago (1985) we ended up in a hotel on Piazza Erbe in Verona. Come out
to the
> balcony to see the market. Walk over and have a great time wandering
> through the market. Take enough time to enjoy the area you are in
and then
> leave to another area.
We feel guilty some times when we travel because we are often more
interested in just a nice walk through a neighborhood, stopping at the
local grocery, picking out a restaurant for the evening meal, that
kinda
thing that visiting the local museum or bajillion year old church.
I hesitate to admit that I've been to Paris multiple times and have yet
to visit the Louvre because the lines always so long and I rather just
take a nice walk through the neighborhoods or parks.
> If you find it is not to your liking, move. One of
> the reasons we travel with only reservations for the arrival and
departure
> days.
One of the nice things about the self guided walking tours we take
is
that we can visit VERY small towns and know that we will be able to
move
on the next day. Takes alot of the "pressure" off of visiting a town.
Dec 10th 2004, 12:34 am
#77
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
[email protected] wrote:
>I don't like Belgian beer.
Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but conclude
that you don't like beer.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
>I don't like Belgian beer.
Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but conclude
that you don't like beer.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
Dec 10th 2004, 12:42 am
#78
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Re: Europe Favorites
[email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> Not sure you meant this, but it is expensive, but I'm not sure it's
> "over" priced. New York ain't cheap. Rome is probably more expensive
> for tourists. I hear Tokyo is one of the worst. It is what it is
> and that includes some expensive features. It does have the advantage
> that it is well spread out and one can pick and choose the balance
> between
> tube travel and hotel location/price.
In London, I think that it's easy enough to find moderately priced rooms
if you book in advance- especially with the likes of Travelodge that
have very cheap rates indeed. I think that the biggest problem for a US
tourist at the moment is the exchange rate. London could seem fairly
expensive when the rate was around 1.6 dollars to the pound- now it is
nearly two. Last night we ate at a decent, but what I'd consider very
moderately priced italian restaurant in Manchester- which is usually a
bit cheaper than London. Total bill, including two soft drinks,
starters, main and dessert came to 40 pounds after the 10% tip. That's
around $75, and there's just no way I'd ever expect to pay that much in
the US in a similar kind of restaurant.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
[]
> Not sure you meant this, but it is expensive, but I'm not sure it's
> "over" priced. New York ain't cheap. Rome is probably more expensive
> for tourists. I hear Tokyo is one of the worst. It is what it is
> and that includes some expensive features. It does have the advantage
> that it is well spread out and one can pick and choose the balance
> between
> tube travel and hotel location/price.
In London, I think that it's easy enough to find moderately priced rooms
if you book in advance- especially with the likes of Travelodge that
have very cheap rates indeed. I think that the biggest problem for a US
tourist at the moment is the exchange rate. London could seem fairly
expensive when the rate was around 1.6 dollars to the pound- now it is
nearly two. Last night we ate at a decent, but what I'd consider very
moderately priced italian restaurant in Manchester- which is usually a
bit cheaper than London. Total bill, including two soft drinks,
starters, main and dessert came to 40 pounds after the 10% tip. That's
around $75, and there's just no way I'd ever expect to pay that much in
the US in a similar kind of restaurant.
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.net
usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Dec 10th 2004, 12:46 am
#79
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't like Belgian beer.
>I don't believe you.
Try offering me one. :-)
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't like Belgian beer.
>I don't believe you.
Try offering me one. :-)
--
Martin
Dec 10th 2004, 12:47 am
#80
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:34:24 +0000, Padraig Breathnach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>>I don't like Belgian beer.
>Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but conclude
>that you don't like beer.
You are wrong.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>>I don't like Belgian beer.
>Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but conclude
>that you don't like beer.
You are wrong.
--
Martin
Dec 10th 2004, 12:48 am
#81
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
...
... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
... >
... >I don't believe you.
...
... Try offering me one. :-)
I'll have it !
electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
...
... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
... >
... >I don't believe you.
...
... Try offering me one. :-)
I'll have it !
Dec 10th 2004, 12:53 am
#82
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Re: Europe Favorites
Following up to [email protected]
>>I was told by a poster living in
>>Italy that people just go where they will, away from houses,
>>rather than rights of way. In practice I would imagine this means
>>you will find the way blocked or impossible frequently.
>Only if they have the same petty attitude to people walking across
>their land as some British landowners do.
Well, that's one angle. On a footpath you have stiles, bridges
etc. Without them it can be hard to make progress on enclosed
land.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>>I was told by a poster living in
>>Italy that people just go where they will, away from houses,
>>rather than rights of way. In practice I would imagine this means
>>you will find the way blocked or impossible frequently.
>Only if they have the same petty attitude to people walking across
>their land as some British landowners do.
Well, that's one angle. On a footpath you have stiles, bridges
etc. Without them it can be hard to make progress on enclosed
land.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Dec 10th 2004, 12:59 am
#83
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:48:40 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
> ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ...
> ... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
> ... >
> ... >I don't believe you.
> ...
> ... Try offering me one. :-)
>I'll have it !
You got the fizzy raspberry flavoured drink with 60% industrial
alcohol. Enjoy!
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
> ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ...
> ... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
> ... >
> ... >I don't believe you.
> ...
> ... Try offering me one. :-)
>I'll have it !
You got the fizzy raspberry flavoured drink with 60% industrial
alcohol. Enjoy!
--
Martin
Dec 10th 2004, 1:03 am
#84
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:59:24 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:48:40 +0100, Magda
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
... >electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
... > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ...
... > ...
... > ... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
... > ... >
... > ... >I don't believe you.
... > ...
... > ... Try offering me one. :-)
... >
... >I'll have it !
...
... You got the fizzy raspberry flavoured drink with 60% industrial
... alcohol. Enjoy!
What, no cherry ??
electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:48:40 +0100, Magda
... <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... >On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
... >electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
... > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ...
... > ...
... > ... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
... > ... >
... > ... >I don't believe you.
... > ...
... > ... Try offering me one. :-)
... >
... >I'll have it !
...
... You got the fizzy raspberry flavoured drink with 60% industrial
... alcohol. Enjoy!
What, no cherry ??
Dec 10th 2004, 1:06 am
#85
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Re: Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 13:53:55 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to [email protected]
>>>I was told by a poster living in
>>>Italy that people just go where they will, away from houses,
>>>rather than rights of way. In practice I would imagine this means
>>>you will find the way blocked or impossible frequently.
>>Only if they have the same petty attitude to people walking across
>>their land as some British landowners do.
>Well, that's one angle. On a footpath you have stiles, bridges
>etc. Without them it can be hard to make progress on enclosed
>land.
There are plenty of places to walk in Italy. Italy is a big country,
maybe you can't walk through the gardens of Milanese millionaires
living behind 20' high security fences, but if you head towards the
Alps there are plenty of places to walk.
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to [email protected]
>>>I was told by a poster living in
>>>Italy that people just go where they will, away from houses,
>>>rather than rights of way. In practice I would imagine this means
>>>you will find the way blocked or impossible frequently.
>>Only if they have the same petty attitude to people walking across
>>their land as some British landowners do.
>Well, that's one angle. On a footpath you have stiles, bridges
>etc. Without them it can be hard to make progress on enclosed
>land.
There are plenty of places to walk in Italy. Italy is a big country,
maybe you can't walk through the gardens of Milanese millionaires
living behind 20' high security fences, but if you head towards the
Alps there are plenty of places to walk.
--
Martin
Dec 10th 2004, 1:09 am
#86
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Re: Europe Favorites
In article <[email protected] .com>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> writes:
>
> England has some unique laws about foot paths which make it
> particularly attractive to folks like myself and my wife. We
> go on self guided walking vacations. We've done them in Ireland,
> England, Scotland, France, and Italy. But there is no doubt that
> the extensiveness of England's path is unique. It is apparently
> connected to some quite old law with regard to "public pathways".
In Sweden and Norway the laws are even simpler.
You are allowed to walk everywhere except closer than a certain distance
from the nearest house, (200 meters in Norway I think), and not in
agricultural field/lawns etc., or in recently planted
forest areas.
>
> England has some unique laws about foot paths which make it
> particularly attractive to folks like myself and my wife. We
> go on self guided walking vacations. We've done them in Ireland,
> England, Scotland, France, and Italy. But there is no doubt that
> the extensiveness of England's path is unique. It is apparently
> connected to some quite old law with regard to "public pathways".
In Sweden and Norway the laws are even simpler.
You are allowed to walk everywhere except closer than a certain distance
from the nearest house, (200 meters in Norway I think), and not in
agricultural field/lawns etc., or in recently planted
forest areas.
Dec 10th 2004, 1:09 am
#87
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:03:48 +0100, Magda
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:59:24 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:48:40 +0100, Magda
> ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> ... >electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >
> ... > ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
> ... > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... > ...
> ... > ...
> ... > ... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >I don't believe you.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... Try offering me one. :-)
> ... >
> ... >I'll have it !
> ...
> ... You got the fizzy raspberry flavoured drink with 60% industrial
> ... alcohol. Enjoy!
>What, no cherry ??
At your age? :-)
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:59:24 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
>electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:48:40 +0100, Magda
> ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:46:47 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] arranged some
> ... >electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... >
> ... > ... On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:09 +0100, Tim Challenger
> ... > ... <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... > ...
> ... > ...
> ... > ... >> I don't like Belgian beer.
> ... > ... >
> ... > ... >I don't believe you.
> ... > ...
> ... > ... Try offering me one. :-)
> ... >
> ... >I'll have it !
> ...
> ... You got the fizzy raspberry flavoured drink with 60% industrial
> ... alcohol. Enjoy!
>What, no cherry ??
At your age? :-)
--
Martin
Dec 10th 2004, 1:11 am
#88
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Re: Europe Favorites
Following up to [email protected]
>We feel guilty some times when we travel because we are often more
>interested in just a nice walk through a neighborhood, stopping at the
>local grocery, picking out a restaurant for the evening meal, that
>kinda
>thing that visiting the local museum or bajillion year old church.
>I hesitate to admit that I've been to Paris multiple times and have yet
>to visit the Louvre because the lines always so long and I rather just
>take a nice walk through the neighborhoods or parks.
no reason to feel guilty, if you don't visit such places at home,
why do it on holiday. I walked past many a church or gallery to a
restaurant or bar.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>We feel guilty some times when we travel because we are often more
>interested in just a nice walk through a neighborhood, stopping at the
>local grocery, picking out a restaurant for the evening meal, that
>kinda
>thing that visiting the local museum or bajillion year old church.
>I hesitate to admit that I've been to Paris multiple times and have yet
>to visit the Louvre because the lines always so long and I rather just
>take a nice walk through the neighborhoods or parks.
no reason to feel guilty, if you don't visit such places at home,
why do it on holiday. I walked past many a church or gallery to a
restaurant or bar.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Dec 10th 2004, 1:11 am
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Re: Europe Favorites
Following up to [email protected]
>One lovely lady advised us on an evening walk we
>could take up a local "fell". I asked "is it a public pathway?".
>She said, "I have no idea. Are any of them?" We walked along
>the road.
If it was a "fell" I assume you were in the Lake district? If you
were then once beyond fenced fields nobody would stop you
wandering at will, in fact a "right to roam" law has recently
been passed giving access to open land. Scotland is another
matter because of hunting restrictions, although trespass laws
are pretty relaxed there, it more a matter of confrontations with
gamekeepers.
--
Mike Reid
Walking in UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/page38.htm"
>One lovely lady advised us on an evening walk we
>could take up a local "fell". I asked "is it a public pathway?".
>She said, "I have no idea. Are any of them?" We walked along
>the road.
If it was a "fell" I assume you were in the Lake district? If you
were then once beyond fenced fields nobody would stop you
wandering at will, in fact a "right to roam" law has recently
been passed giving access to open land. Scotland is another
matter because of hunting restrictions, although trespass laws
are pretty relaxed there, it more a matter of confrontations with
gamekeepers.
--
Mike Reid
Walking in UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/page38.htm"
Dec 10th 2004, 1:11 am
#90
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Re: Beer favourites was Europe Favorites
Following up to [email protected]
>>Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but conclude
>>that you don't like beer.
>You are wrong.
Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but
conclude that you don't like bottled beer?
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Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
>>Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but conclude
>>that you don't like beer.
>You are wrong.
Given the wide variety of Belgian beers available, I can but
conclude that you don't like bottled beer?
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
