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Old Feb 9th 2007 | 5:58 pm
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On 10 Feb, 00:52, "FredBear" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "MichaelS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hope this goes some way to helping you make up your mind.

FredBear is a quite knowledgable traveller, indeed.
However, I get confirmed in my previous opinion that MichaelS should
first investigate the matter and better declare his preferences,
before going into details.
Back to FredBear's detailed suggestions here is my additional cent
worth remarks.

Just outside Ascoli Piceno and close to Acquasanta Terme I know a
wonderful place where to sleep and a superb restaurant to dine. I
would go back and spend the night at 'Castel di Luco' and dine at 'Tre
Lanterne'.

Even better than from Visso through Passo delle Fornaci, I would
recommend going up to Castelluccio di Norcia, which for me and many
others is a WONDERFUL place, from Acquasanta through Forca di Presta.
Visso is quite nice and not so touristic exploited as nearby Norcia,
down the other side. By the way, both Castelluccio and Norcia are no
longer in Le Marche.

Ancona.
I maintain that San Ciriaco has to be visited, no matter what.
The old part of Ancona, on Colle del Guasco, is rather nice and
worthwhile visiting. So are the Cimitero degli Ebrei, a 'Ripe de
Galina' at Montecardeto and the Passetto, just for sightseeing,
though, on a clear day.
The areas out of town are quite messy indeed, and ugly looking. Around
Piano della Baraccola I tend to get lost myself, not being able to
make turns where I used to, nor to find my good old connecting roads.

Recanati.
It is a rather nice little old town, with much of the common
atmosphere of the ancient hilltop villages of the area and a superb
view towards Monte Conero. About these hilltops one could say 'See
one, and you have seen all', to some truth in a sense.
However, if one is fond of poetry and Opera a visit to Giacomo
Leopardi's library and to the Beniamino Gigli Museum at the town
central square in quite valuable.
Just as valuable is a visit to Castelfidardo, if by any chance one is
an accordionist.

This is to say, again, that it all depends on one's taste and
interests. There are so many, and varied, ways of travelling even such
a small stretch of the country.

By the way, if one is interested in wine making, besides visiting the
highly professional cantina that FredBear addressed you to, I would
not miss the area around Cupramontana and Staffolo. Still
professional, by all means, but closer to the vinyards of origin, so
to speak.

Food?
I am not so fond of Vincisgrassi. If you like seafood you have just a
choice of place, e.g. at Portonovo, at Marzocca di Senigallia or even
at Jesi, if the wonderful tiny trattoria 'Santa Lucia' run by Strologo
has finally re-opened. Else, in front of the Railway Station in
Ancona, you can find an excellent Stoccafisso con Patate in the most
traditionally looking reastaurant I can recall in town.

Again, unless we are given a preliminary choice we would have to write
a complete travel book, by adding the experience of on traveller to
the other's, before feeling we have fullfilled the duty.

With pleasure.

Sergio
Pisa
 
Old Feb 9th 2007 | 8:14 pm
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On 9 Feb 2007 11:56:51 -0800, "MichaelS" <[email protected]>
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>Thank you so much for all that information. The second to last
>paragraph seems to have been cut off; now we're waiting with bated
>breath to hear what you were going to say about the area leading up to
>Ascoli Piceno.

I think I ended up with Caldarola. Between there and Ascoli Piceno, I
don't know the small towns very well. I've passed through there, and
have seen places like Amandola and San Giovanni Rotonda, but other
than to say that the area is very scenic I have little to add. (I live
in the northern part of Le Marche.) The castle of Caldarola is one of
several in the vicinity, and there is a proposed tour of all the
castles. We did part of this tour once, and I remember that there was
one little town, all steps, that was a little jewel, but neither my
husband nor I can remember which town it was.There is a beautiful
walking path in the Gola dell'Infernaccio, but it might be a bit early
in the year for that.

>We were actually considering pretty much skipping the coast, save for
>Ancona. Would that be a mistake?

To be perfectly honest, I think you could even skip Ancona. The
Romaesque cathedral is very impressive, as Sergio said, and it's in a
panoramic spot overlooking the Adriatic, but Ancona is a big city and
the traffic getting in and out can be horrendous. There's nothing much
to see there except the cathedral.

>Also, if you could give us a rough idea of how long you would think
>we'd need to spend in these places, we'd appreciate it very much.
>Obviously people travel at different speeds, but an estimate would
>help us a lot in our planning.

Most of these small towns can be seen in a few hours, or sometimes
even less. You would want to choose some of your favorites to stop for
a meal or an overnight stay. Corinaldo would be a good stop for a
meal, I think, and it may even be well-placed for an overnight stop. I
Tigli, the restaurant built into the wall (in an old convent) is also
a hotel. It's a bit old-fashioned and doesn't have an elevator (nor
air-conditioning, which wouldn't be needed in April anyway), but it's
not a bad hotel. Other towns along the route where you might stay
overnight:

San Vittore Terme (a stone's throw from the caverns of Frassasi): This
is the site of a hot spring, where tons of local people come in the
summer to "take the cure". Consequently, there are several hotels in
this tiny town.

Fabriano: there are several hotels in the center and also several good
restaurants. The center is very attractive and also has some decent
shopping. Also, while I mentioned the paper museum, I didn't mention
that the museum shop has some very nice small gifts, mostly made with
hand-made paper.

Matelica: There are several hotels and good restaurants here. I think
on the whole I would prefer Fabriano, though.

San Severino Marche. This town has one of the nicest piazzas I know.
There is a hotel and restaurant in the higher part of the town.

You really shouldn't need reservations at this time of year, except
maybe for the restaurants on the Easter weekend.

>Thanks again -- we're getting very excited about the trip!

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Old Feb 9th 2007 | 8:14 pm
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On 9 Feb 2007 22:58:49 -0800, "sergio" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Even better than from Visso through Passo delle Fornaci, I would
>recommend going up to Castelluccio di Norcia, which for me and many
>others is a WONDERFUL place, from Acquasanta through Forca di Presta.
>Visso is quite nice and not so touristic exploited as nearby Norcia,
>down the other side. By the way, both Castelluccio and Norcia are no
>longer in Le Marche.

Castelluccio di Norcia is the site of an ancient lakebed. In mid to
late June, the entire basin is ablaze with flowers. I'm not sure it
would be the ideal place to visit in April. It's at a rather high
altitude and would be cold and windy a good deal of the time. We once
went cross-country skiing near there in early April.
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Old Feb 9th 2007 | 11:23 pm
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On 10 Feb, 10:14, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
> >We were actually considering pretty much skipping the coast, save for
> >Ancona. Would that be a mistake?
> To be perfectly honest, I think you could even skip Ancona. The
> Romaesque cathedral is very impressive, as Sergio said, and it's in a
> panoramic spot overlooking the Adriatic, but Ancona is a big city and
> the traffic getting in and out can be horrendous. There's nothing much
> to see there except the cathedral.

Well, be adviced that visiting Le Marche and insisting on skipping the
coastline altogether will necessarily force you to drive up and down
hills all along, in an incredible succession, with no shortcuts. It
may be fun, but time consuming. Certainly beautiful if you like to
drive and you choose the best itinerary by selecting the hill-top
towns you want to pass by. That was in fact one purpose I had in mind
when giving you that long list pf places and towns.

Concerning the town of Ancona, there is more to see other than San
Ciriaco, as any Travel Book must report. However, were it only for San
Ciriaco, I would still recommend you pass by there.
Not just for the view of the harbor and the sea from above, but
exactly for the Cathedral, itself.
It's happened to me twice, while far away from home, to discover how
appreciated that Cathedral is.
When I was in Bath, England, a chap from Australia talking about Italy
said he remembered one church he liked so much: that very one. On
another occasion, in New York (N.Y.), a hungarian professor, as soon
as he learned that I was from Ancona, hurried up to mention how
beautiful he had founD San Ciriaco to be.

Counter to that, I have always found the Basilica di Loreto so ugly,
so ugly!, that I would not address you there.

Sergio
Pisa
 
Old Feb 10th 2007 | 2:12 am
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Thanks so much to you all. We are very grateful for everyone's
advice. We have already altered our plans to accommodate a visit to
Urbino and many of the other places that have been recommended. As
Sergio has suggested, perhaps we should digest all this, look long and
hard at a map, and come up with an itinerary taking into account the
timing, our tastes, and our impressions of the places everyone's
described. I would like to post this itinerary for your comments once
it has taken shape. This is likely to be at least a few days and as
much as a week from now. Being new to newsgroups, I will ask your
advice as to the most convenient way to do this: continue on this
thread when we are ready, or start a new one?

In the meantime, anyone who wants to chip in additional advice or
recommendations please feel free as I will continue to check this
thread for additions.

Best,
Michael
 
Old Feb 10th 2007 | 2:38 am
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"MichaelS" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> As a followup to my post of 2 hours ago: Does anyone have an opinion
> as to whether it would be preferable to stay in the southern part of
> Le Marche over Easter, as opposed to Padua. My concern here might be
> the opposite of my previous post: that everything emptied out and
> closed up over the Easter weekend. Comments anyone?
>
> Michael
>

first of all I must warn you that all Italian state owned monuments and
museums are closed on Monday..

so . if you go to Ravenna.. there are state owned monuments ( like the
famous casa dei mosaici restored in an old church ) and monuments owned by
others-

there are two different types of cumulative tickets. that
allow you to enter all the monuments at a reduced price.

so. if you are going to ravenna from Padova..
first of all do not miss the Ville Venete.. along the BRENTA RIVER between
Venezia and Padova.
at least a few of them cannot be missed
they were the Villas were the nobles from venice went for their week ends.
In those times there was a ship called Burchiello..
from Venezia to Padova.
Now Burchiello is a tourist ship that stops at the most interesting Villas.

then. on yr way to the south.,,,, Ferrara is a must..

Most of the monuments of Ravenna are in the pedestrian zone, but the Tomb of
the King Teodoricus is not.
the tomb of Dante Alighieri is also not in the pedestrian zone.
Also the most beautiful church with mosaics of Ravenna is Sant'Apollinare in
Classe a few kms down south of Ravenna. ( they are building an
archeolical park in Classe )
very near there is also the Mirabilandia Amusement park.

if you want to see castles.. you might see them in Romagna and not in
Marche.
Near Rimini there are a few. among them the Castle of Verucchio.. with the
nearby museum of Villanoviana Civilization ( apparently the Etruscans come
from the Villanovian people.. )

as to Frasassi. there are two itineraries..
one for the normal tourists.. and one on request with special guides.. for a
longer itinerary.
you might request and book it if you are interested.

as to Rimini. it is one of the first town that were given citizenship by the
romans. the old latin name is Ariminum.
there is the Augustus Arc and the Tiberius bridge

but the jewel of Rimini si the Tempio malatestiano
by leon battisti alberti..
besides. the centre of Rimini is medioeval and has a small castle ( open
only if they have exbitions )
there is also a small archeological museum.. with a lot of
roman medical instruments found in the so called Villa of the Doctor.. in
the very centre of Rimini
of course. medical instruments have been found everywhere.. but in this case
they are in a very big quantity and very well preserved.

The river Rubicone is according the legend where Julius Caesar said Alea
Jacta est.
there is a statue of Julius Caesar to remember that moment. ( Near army
barracks on the Via Flaminia )

you can visit in the same day San leo and San marino..
then Urbino will need a couple fo days.

I do not know whether the house of Raffaello da Urbino is open to the public
now.


sooo.. you will have a lot to see even before you get to the Region
Marche..
 
Old Feb 10th 2007 | 6:05 am
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On 10 Feb, 16:12, "MichaelS" <[email protected]> wrote:

I will ask your
> advice as to the most convenient way to do this: continue on this
> thread when we are ready, or start a new one?

Whenever you pick it up in the NG, drop me a note in private and alert
me. I do not regularly check the newsgroup.

Sergio
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Old Feb 10th 2007 | 6:27 am
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:38:19 GMT, "tile" <[email protected]> wrote:

>then Urbino will need a couple fo days.
>
>I do not know whether the house of Raffaello da Urbino is open to the public
>now.

Yes, it's open, but there's not a great deal to see there.

I think you can see a good deal of Urbino in one day. It depends how
much time you want to spend in the ducal palace. I would strongly
suggest going to the park above the city, where you get a very good
view of the palace and the surrounding countryside.



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Old Feb 10th 2007 | 6:41 am
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On Feb 8, 7:09 pm, "MichaelS" <[email protected]> wrote:
> As a followup to my post of 2 hours ago: Does anyone have an opinion
> as to whether it would be preferable to stay in the southern part of
> Le Marche over Easter, as opposed to Padua. My concern here might be
> the opposite of my previous post: that everything emptied out and
> closed up over the Easter weekend. Comments anyone?
>
> Michael

I just want to toss in a comment here.

This is an amazing thread. I think I read more good and helpful
information posted here than I've seen in this group in the past few
weeks. One could compile a fine guidebook from the replies. For once I
didn't read any sarcasm, jokes, political statements, nasty
notes...etc. It's a shame the postings on this group couldn't always
be as useful.
 
Old Feb 10th 2007 | 6:55 am
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On 10 Feb 2007 11:41:51 -0800, "Bill Steltzer" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Feb 8, 7:09 pm, "MichaelS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As a followup to my post of 2 hours ago: Does anyone have an opinion
>> as to whether it would be preferable to stay in the southern part of
>> Le Marche over Easter, as opposed to Padua. My concern here might be
>> the opposite of my previous post: that everything emptied out and
>> closed up over the Easter weekend. Comments anyone?
>>
>> Michael
>
>I just want to toss in a comment here.
>
>This is an amazing thread. I think I read more good and helpful
>information posted here than I've seen in this group in the past few
>weeks. One could compile a fine guidebook from the replies. For once I
>didn't read any sarcasm, jokes, political statements, nasty
>notes...etc. It's a shame the postings on this group couldn't always
>be as useful.

That's one of the reasons I want to keep this in the newsgroup,
instead of taking it to private email.

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Old Feb 10th 2007 | 7:03 am
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Bill Steltzer <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Feb 8, 7:09 pm, "MichaelS" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > As a followup to my post of 2 hours ago: Does anyone have an opinion
> > as to whether it would be preferable to stay in the southern part of
> > Le Marche over Easter, as opposed to Padua. My concern here might be
> > the opposite of my previous post: that everything emptied out and
> > closed up over the Easter weekend. Comments anyone?
> >
> > Michael
>
> I just want to toss in a comment here.
>
> This is an amazing thread. I think I read more good and helpful
> information posted here than I've seen in this group in the past few
> weeks. One could compile a fine guidebook from the replies. For once I
> didn't read any sarcasm, jokes, political statements, nasty
> notes...etc. It's a shame the postings on this group couldn't always
> be as useful.

I agree that this particular thread was very interesting, but in all the
time I've read this newsgroup, I don't remember a serious question on
european travel going unanswered, and usually with interesting or
helpful replies. This newsgroup is always useful IME when you ask a
question about european travel- skip the threads or subthread that don't
interest you.

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Old Feb 10th 2007 | 9:56 am
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Let is be knownst that on 10 Feb 2007 11:41:51 -0800, "Bill Steltzer"
<[email protected]> writted:

>On Feb 8, 7:09 pm, "MichaelS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As a followup to my post of 2 hours ago: Does anyone have an opinion
>> as to whether it would be preferable to stay in the southern part of
>> Le Marche over Easter, as opposed to Padua. My concern here might be
>> the opposite of my previous post: that everything emptied out and
>> closed up over the Easter weekend. Comments anyone?
>>
>> Michael
>
>I just want to toss in a comment here.
>
>This is an amazing thread. I think I read more good and helpful
>information posted here than I've seen in this group in the past few
>weeks. One could compile a fine guidebook from the replies. For once I
>didn't read any sarcasm, jokes, political statements, nasty
>notes...etc. It's a shame the postings on this group couldn't always
>be as useful.

Ignore the chit chat, bickering, off topic stuff etc. if you're not
interested. Any well thought out query will get plenty of help - often
from those who contribute to the of topic stuff!
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