Javaman

"Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "Javaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I've found a pretty good rate for BA flights in October (SEA to AMS, MUC
    > to
    > > SEA)
    > > but the rates are only good for E-tickets.
    > > I feel aprehensive about this, but don't know if I am worrying
needlessly.
    > > What is the opinion of the group? Is it a good idea to fly BA
    > > internationally with
    > > E-tickets?
    > > Thanks for your advice!
    > Is this the usual worry of wondering if 'foreign' places actually have
    > electricity, never mind computers?
    > ;-)

Actually, no, but I understand your comment.
I've flown to Europe 4 times in the last 4 years, but only with a paper
ticket
and never with BA. AND (more importantly), I've always had non-stops and
now I'll have to change in London. So, I am always wary of connections,
especially since I have never been to Heathrow. I ususally fly direct to
Schiphol
or FRA.

Larry

In article <[email protected]>, "Javaman"
<[email protected]> writes:

    >I've found a pretty good rate for BA flights in October (SEA to AMS, MUC to
    >SEA)
    >but the rates are only good for E-tickets.
    >I feel aprehensive about this, but don't know if I am worrying needlessly.
    >What is the opinion of the group? Is it a good idea to fly BA
    >internationally with
    >E-tickets?

I just arrived in Istanbul via BA, using their e-ticket from San Francisco to
London then later on to Istanbul. Worked just fine and it was very nice not to
have to worry about misplacing my paper tickets.

Larry in Istanbul (sea otter 6 at aol dot com)

Steltzjr

<< Worked just fine and it was very nice not to
have to worry about misplacing my paper tickets. >>

What about misplacing the print-out which I just printed from the e-mail. Says
"Be sure to bring the print-out with you." What if I don't? Is that not a
problem?

Not the Karl Orff

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Steltzjr) wrote:

    > << Worked just fine and it was very nice not to
    > have to worry about misplacing my paper tickets. >>
    >
    > What about misplacing the print-out which I just printed from the e-mail. Says
    > "Be sure to bring the print-out with you." What if I don't? Is that not a
    > problem?

Depending on the airline, you can always get another from the website,
or scan one and have it uploaded and accessible/prinable from an
internet point

Nige

"Javaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I've found a pretty good rate for BA flights in October (SEA to AMS, MUC
to
    > SEA)
    > but the rates are only good for E-tickets.
    > I feel aprehensive about this, but don't know if I am worrying needlessly.
    > What is the opinion of the group? Is it a good idea to fly BA
    > internationally with
    > E-tickets?
    > Thanks for your advice!


Booking via the Internet is very normal these days. Ticketless flights are
great. Recently I have noticed that an ID number from the printed off
booking confirmation is not needed at check in. They just look at your
passport and go to the flight passenger list. I suppose that if there were 2
or more pax with the same name, they may ask for the booking reference.
Seems so much easier than all that silly rigmarole of coupons. I still keep
copy of the booking though!

Hilary

    > > I've found a pretty good rate for BA flights in October (SEA to AMS,
    > > MUC> to SEA) but the rates are only good for E-tickets. I feel
    > > aprehensive about this, but don't know if I am worrying needlessly.
    > > What is the opinion of the group? Is it a good idea to fly BA
    > > internationally with E-tickets?
    >
    > Some airlines on certain routes won't do a paper ticket. Notably SQ
    > LHR-SIN. Or at least my TA told me so.

It might be different if you're booking outside the UK, but we issue paper
tickets for SQ on this route all the time. SQ themselves probably won't,
though - maybe that's what your TA meant.

Hilary

Hilary

    > Booking via the Internet is very normal these days. Ticketless flights
    > are great. Recently I have noticed that an ID number from the printed
    > off booking confirmation is not needed at check in. They just look at
    > your passport and go to the flight passenger list. I suppose that if
    > there were 2 or more pax with the same name, they may ask for the
    > booking reference. Seems so much easier than all that silly rigmarole of
    > coupons. I still keep copy of the booking though!

Don't rely on it. Some airlines do require the booking reference, and
some airlines (or airports) require you to show the auto-generated
e-ticket itinerary to pass through security.

Hilary

Not the Karl Orff

In article
<[email protected]>,
Hilary <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Don't rely on it. Some airlines do require the booking reference, and
    > some airlines (or airports) require you to show the auto-generated
    > e-ticket itinerary to pass through security.

Which reminds me... Last year when i was in Argentina, the immigration
officer asked for return tickets. I did have my e-ticket itinerary
(sent to me by AA as a e-ticket receipt).

Markku Grönroos

"Hilary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0403171856480.141...el.ednet.co.uk...
    > Don't rely on it. Some airlines do require the booking reference, and
    > some airlines (or airports) require you to show the auto-generated
    > e-ticket itinerary to pass through security.
I just cannot understand why check in personnel cannot print such an
itinerary. If it really is as you suggest, then there is much to improve in
terms of e-ticketing. As I see it the whole idea is to get rid of these
nonsense paper tickets. I do undestand that such an *informal* document do
speed up the check in procedures and it is desirable that a passenger have
one in hand when it is his turn to appear in front of the desk.

Xor

"Javaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > "Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Javaman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I've found a pretty good rate for BA flights in October (SEA to AMS, MUC
    > to
    > > > SEA)
    > > > but the rates are only good for E-tickets.
    > > > I feel aprehensive about this, but don't know if I am worrying
    > needlessly.
    > > > What is the opinion of the group? Is it a good idea to fly BA
    > > > internationally with
    > > > E-tickets?
    > > > Thanks for your advice!
    > >
    > > Is this the usual worry of wondering if 'foreign' places actually have
    > > electricity, never mind computers?
    > >
    > > ;-)
    >
    > Actually, no, but I understand your comment.
    > I've flown to Europe 4 times in the last 4 years, but only with a paper
    > ticket
    > and never with BA. AND (more importantly), I've always had non-stops and
    > now I'll have to change in London. So, I am always wary of connections,
    > especially since I have never been to Heathrow. I ususally fly direct to
    > Schiphol
    > or FRA.

Should be no problem at all, LHR is pretty easy to deal with .
However, are the other legs all BA or a partner? Still shouldn't be a
problem, BUT, on a CO e-ticket SAT-AMS-GVA where the AMS-GVA and
GVA-AMS legs were KLM, KLM in GVA didn't 'have' e-tickets, and thus
could not recognise my ticket. Had to go to the Continental counter
for a paper ticket so they could issue a boarding pass. Only glitch
was CO's one flight is earlier in the day and no one was there. KLM
managed to call someone somewhere and after 30 mins or so managed to
get me a boarding pass as far as AMS, but not onward and I was to see
the ticket agent in AMS. When I was about to board in GVA they called
me back, sent me to the ticket counter, and they'd printed up boarding
passes for the onward flights. Good thing because there was no CO
agent at AMS...

I've flown KLM on e-tickets BKK-AMS-LHR and return last autumn with no
problem, among other destinations, so it's not a KLM-wide thing. I
think it was just a Geneva thing


Anyway, that's something to ask about when you book your tickets, but
shouldn't be a problem. My partner flew the same CO/KLM trip a week
later, and knowing in advance, he got to the airport early enough to
catch the CO person and went directly there before going to the KLM
check-in.

It's been awhile since I've flown BA, but can't recall any
difficulties with e-tix. All my trips to Asia have been e-tickets,
with many connections.

Xor

Mike <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > Yes unless something goes wrong. I was on Delta, missed a connection,
    > needed to be rerouted on Air France, it would not take eTicket from
    > Delta. I almost missed flight waiting on Delta to issue a paper
    > ticket. Still I prefer etickets. To much hassle if you lose a paper
    > ticket -- and I sometimes do!!!
    >

Oh right, I forgot about that. I nearly had to be re-routed from UA
onto Air China, the latter of which would not have taken me e-ticket,
though supposedly would just have had to ask to be re-ticketed in
Shanghai. Don't know how well it would have worked since in the end
they managed to get us to a new flight with the original routing. I am
not sure a paper ticket would have made a difference though.

Not the Karl Orff

In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] (XOR) wrote:

    > Mike <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > Yes unless something goes wrong. I was on Delta, missed a connection,
    > > needed to be rerouted on Air France, it would not take eTicket from
    > > Delta. I almost missed flight waiting on Delta to issue a paper
    > > ticket. Still I prefer etickets. To much hassle if you lose a paper
    > > ticket -- and I sometimes do!!!
    > >
    >
    > Oh right, I forgot about that. I nearly had to be re-routed from UA
    > onto Air China, the latter of which would not have taken me e-ticket,
    > though supposedly would just have had to ask to be re-ticketed in
    > Shanghai. Don't know how well it would have worked since in the end
    > they managed to get us to a new flight with the original routing. I am
    > not sure a paper ticket would have made a difference though.

Only if the ticket was an endorsable full-fare economy or endorsable
business/first class one.

Hilary

    > > Don't rely on it. Some airlines do require the booking reference, and
    > > some airlines (or airports) require you to show the auto-generated
    > > e-ticket itinerary to pass through security.
    > >
    > I just cannot understand why check in personnel cannot print such an
    > itinerary.

They can, but that's not the point. A proper itinerary is automatically
generated when an e-ticket is run, and it contains all the details
including the ticket number. It can't be replicated later, though
you can print something similar.

    > If it really is as you suggest, then there is much to improve in
    > terms of e-ticketing. As I see it the whole idea is to get rid of these
    > nonsense paper tickets. I do undestand that such an *informal* document do
    > speed up the check in procedures and it is desirable that a passenger have
    > one in hand when it is his turn to appear in front of the desk.

You can always print off another copy from your email if you lose a hard
copy. You can't just print off another ticket.

Hilary

Mtravelkay

Markku Grönroos wrote:

    > "Hilary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0403171856480.141...el.ednet.co.uk...
    >
    >>Don't rely on it. Some airlines do require the booking reference, and
    >>some airlines (or airports) require you to show the auto-generated
    >>e-ticket itinerary to pass through security.
    >
    > I just cannot understand why check in personnel cannot print such an
    > itinerary. If it really is as you suggest, then there is much to improve in
    > terms of e-ticketing. As I see it the whole idea is to get rid of these
    > nonsense paper tickets.

The printout is just looked at, a paper ticket is processed.

Emilia

[email protected] (Vitaly Shmatikov) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Douglas W. Hoyt <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>>>>>> E-Ticket is just like a paper form ticket, but without the
    >>>>>>> paper....
    >>Except that a paper ticket is a negotiable document
    >
    > In what sense is a paper ticket negotiable? Most CoCs I've seen
    > (Spirit seems to be the only exception in the US) prohibit name
    > changes, even on full-fare tickets, meaning you can't really sell
    > your paper ticket to anyone.
    >
    >>If an
    >>airline finds that the value of a ticket you lost has been redeemed
    >>somewhere, it can get even more complicated.
    >
    > How can someone ``redeem'' the value of a ticket issued to a
    > different person? I honestly can't think of any way to do this, but
    > maybe I'm just not inventive enough


A full fare ticket can be "cashed in". IIRC, the person on the ticket
doesn't have to be the one to cash it in as our company secretaries are
usually the ones to cash in tickets when they are not used.