The Amalfi drive snakes around the mountains and there are a very few
straight-aways. Nearly every pass is done against a blind curve. Due to
driving pressure and traffic the vehicle was holding back on the drive, the
pass was inevitable (by me and several other cars).

For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their trap
shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer and
make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide comments
to yourself.

Frank


"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:53:11 +0100, Andrew Richardson
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:51:38 GMT, "Frank" <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:
    >>>I remember overtaking a car alongside a twisty curve. I passed the car
    >>>and
    >>>was immediately met with an oncoming car. If I hadn't swooped over fast
    >>>enough and jacked my breaks, we would have gone over the side.
    >>Fairly stupid overtaking manouevre then, wasn't it?

...at least until after and outside of the memorial service...

BTW; are there not center lines on this highway that prohibit crossing
over them for passing as in the US? As in the US do not such marked
lanes also prohibit crossing over into opposing traffic just to round
curves faster? Not trying to be a smart ass Frank; I just would like a
brush up on the rules of the road over there.

Tim K

"Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. ..

    > For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their
trap
    > shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer
and
    > make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide
comments
    > to yourself.
    > Frank

When visiting there I had far more sense than to attempt to drive
myself. Pressure from other drivers is not a reason for passing on
blind curves. Let them have their heart attacks quietly.

To have sense enough to not do something stupid does not mean that you
cannot point out the fact when someone else does something stupid.



Frank wrote:

    > The Amalfi drive snakes around the mountains and there are a very few
    > straight-aways. Nearly every pass is done against a blind curve. Due to
    > driving pressure and traffic the vehicle was holding back on the drive, the
    > pass was inevitable (by me and several other cars).
    >
    > For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their trap
    > shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer and
    > make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide comments
    > to yourself.
    >
    > Frank
    >
    >
    > "B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 23:53:11 +0100, Andrew Richardson
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:51:38 GMT, "Frank" <[email protected]>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>>I remember overtaking a car alongside a twisty curve. I passed the car
    >>>>and
    >>>>was immediately met with an oncoming car. If I hadn't swooped over fast
    >>>>enough and jacked my breaks, we would have gone over the side.
    >>>Fairly stupid overtaking manouevre then, wasn't it?
    >
    >
    >

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:24:31 GMT, "Frank" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >The Amalfi drive snakes around the mountains and there are a very few
    >straight-aways. Nearly every pass is done against a blind curve. Due to
    >driving pressure and traffic the vehicle was holding back on the drive, the
    >pass was inevitable (by me and several other cars).
    >For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their trap
    >shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer and
    >make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide comments
    >to yourself.

I've been a passenger on the Amalfi Coast drive, and know what the
traffic is like. However, I would rather arrive next week than cause
my death as well as that of the unsuspecting drivers who may meet me
around the bend.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:24:31 GMT, "Frank" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their trap
    >shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer and
    >make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide comments
    >to yourself.

Ha ha!!! Yeah, beautifully said.

The Amalfi Coast road is unreal. I have only gone by bus, but was
astonished, and had great respect for all the others on the road. Just
how many people do they actually lose on that piece of road?
--
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Timothy Kroesen wrote:
    > ...at least until after and outside of the memorial service...
    >
    > BTW; are there not center lines on this highway that prohibit crossing
    > over them for passing as in the US? As in the US do not such marked
    > lanes also prohibit crossing over into opposing traffic just to round
    > curves faster? Not trying to be a smart ass Frank; I just would like a
    > brush up on the rules of the road over there.
    >
    > Tim K


Frankly I am not interested in the local rules of the road or possible
permissive laws. Passing on blind curves is flat out dumb. Suicide may
be legal but I still normally do not recommend it. In any case it
should not involve killing others. Driving on the coast road at the
very least means that you will see nothing. At least for your
passengers' sakes I hope that it means that.

    >
    > "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]. ..
    >
    >
    >>For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their
    >
    > trap
    >
    >>shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer
    >
    > and
    >
    >>make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide
    >
    > comments
    >
    >>to yourself.
    >>Frank
    >
    >

I love hearing the critiques from people who have never driven the road or
other who were mere passengers. You are trully unbeliveable! The pompousness
of having a driver lends no credance to your complaints or arguments.

I'm done arguing. I've given some insight on the road. Insight that others
have failed to mention. If passing on a blind curve isn't your cup of tea,
then simply don't drive. If you do, I'm sure you will be riding the brake
and not keeping up with traffic. If vehicles start passing you, you better
be worried. Their pass may involve oncomming traffic and any accident will
definetly affect you and your car!

As a side note, if you have driven deep inside Naples Italy, like myself,
you would know that few people stop at lights. They just inch up and roll
through the light regardless of color. This isn't the UK or the US people.
Italy in general doesn't properly enforce driving laws unless it's the
Autostrada. Even then you have to be doing considerably over the limit!
Same goes for country roads or the Amalfi Coast road. Don't even get me
started with Rome...

Frank




Enough said.
Frank

"Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. ..
    >I love hearing the critiques from people who have never driven the road or
    >other who were mere passengers. You are trully unbeliveable! The
    >pompousness of having a driver lends no credance to your complaints or
    >arguments.
    > I'm done arguing. I've given some insight on the road. Insight that others
    > have failed to mention. If passing on a blind curve isn't your cup of tea,
    > then simply don't drive. If you do, I'm sure you will be riding the brake
    > and not keeping up with traffic. If vehicles start passing you, you better
    > be worried. Their pass may involve oncomming traffic and any accident will
    > definetly affect you and your car!
    > As a side note, if you have driven deep inside Naples Italy, like myself,
    > you would know that few people stop at lights. They just inch up and roll
    > through the light regardless of color. This isn't the UK or the US people.
    > Italy in general doesn't properly enforce driving laws unless it's the
    > Autostrada. Even then you have to be doing considerably over the limit!
    > Same goes for country roads or the Amalfi Coast road. Don't even get me
    > started with Rome...
    > Frank
    > Enough said.
    > Frank

I do not care if you go over the side and kill yourself. My problem is
seeing people passing on blind curves and killing the oncoming traffic. I
drive fast, former SCCA racecar driver, but will not pass on a blind curve.
Death lasts a long time, lots longer than the few minutes saved on a 20 or
30 mile trip.

Again, another person who hasn't driven the road...


"Bill McKee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] nk.net...
    > "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]. ..
    >>I love hearing the critiques from people who have never driven the road or
    >>other who were mere passengers. You are trully unbeliveable! The
    >>pompousness of having a driver lends no credance to your complaints or
    >>arguments.
    >> I'm done arguing. I've given some insight on the road. Insight that
    >> others have failed to mention. If passing on a blind curve isn't your cup
    >> of tea, then simply don't drive. If you do, I'm sure you will be riding
    >> the brake and not keeping up with traffic. If vehicles start passing you,
    >> you better be worried. Their pass may involve oncomming traffic and any
    >> accident will definetly affect you and your car!
    >> As a side note, if you have driven deep inside Naples Italy, like myself,
    >> you would know that few people stop at lights. They just inch up and roll
    >> through the light regardless of color. This isn't the UK or the US
    >> people. Italy in general doesn't properly enforce driving laws unless
    >> it's the Autostrada. Even then you have to be doing considerably over
    >> the limit! Same goes for country roads or the Amalfi Coast road. Don't
    >> even get me started with Rome...
    >> Frank
    >> Enough said.
    >> Frank
    > I do not care if you go over the side and kill yourself. My problem is
    > seeing people passing on blind curves and killing the oncoming traffic. I
    > drive fast, former SCCA racecar driver, but will not pass on a blind
    > curve. Death lasts a long time, lots longer than the few minutes saved on
    > a 20 or 30 mile trip.
    >

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:48:10 GMT, "Frank"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Again, another person who hasn't driven the road...

I have.

I'd never overtake on a blind corner - anywhere, let alone
the Amalfi Coast road. I think I only overtook cyclists on
that road (and some overtook me:-)

Actually, while the Amalfi had it's moments, I found Naples
itself a far more dangerous place to drive. I consider
myself a professional driver after 17 years in cabs. You can
joke about cab-drivers, but look at it this way - I drove
over 100,000km per year, every year, in all types of major
city traffic and survived. But, with all of that, nothing
had prepared me for Naples - not even Rome:-)

Cheers, Alan, Australia

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:48:10 GMT, "Frank" <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Again, another person who hasn't driven the road...

My husband has driven the road, more than once, and he agrees with me.
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Timothy Kroesen said:

    > I just would like a brush up on the rules of the road over there.

Not exactly what you want but you might be interested in "Driving in
Italy" <http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/ItalDRIVE.html> at the
site at Right in the sig.
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Nope, been in the Amalfi coast area, but did not drive the road. But have
seen other roads very similar here in California and the Rockie Mountains.
Also seen head on crashes where the innocent driver on his side of the road
is killed.

"Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. ..
    > Again, another person who hasn't driven the road...
    > "Bill McKee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected] nk.net...
    >> "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]. ..
    >>>I love hearing the critiques from people who have never driven the road
    >>>or other who were mere passengers. You are trully unbeliveable! The
    >>>pompousness of having a driver lends no credance to your complaints or
    >>>arguments.
    >>> I'm done arguing. I've given some insight on the road. Insight that
    >>> others have failed to mention. If passing on a blind curve isn't your
    >>> cup of tea, then simply don't drive. If you do, I'm sure you will be
    >>> riding the brake and not keeping up with traffic. If vehicles start
    >>> passing you, you better be worried. Their pass may involve oncomming
    >>> traffic and any accident will definetly affect you and your car!
    >>> As a side note, if you have driven deep inside Naples Italy, like
    >>> myself, you would know that few people stop at lights. They just inch up
    >>> and roll through the light regardless of color. This isn't the UK or the
    >>> US people. Italy in general doesn't properly enforce driving laws unless
    >>> it's the Autostrada. Even then you have to be doing considerably over
    >>> the limit! Same goes for country roads or the Amalfi Coast road. Don't
    >>> even get me started with Rome...
    >>> Frank
    >>> Enough said.
    >>> Frank
    >> I do not care if you go over the side and kill yourself. My problem is
    >> seeing people passing on blind curves and killing the oncoming traffic.
    >> I drive fast, former SCCA racecar driver, but will not pass on a blind
    >> curve. Death lasts a long time, lots longer than the few minutes saved on
    >> a 20 or 30 mile trip.
    >

Following up to Frank

    >For those who have never driven the Amalfi Coast should keep their trap
    >shut. Your ignorance on the issue is so blatant. Get off your computer and
    >make the drive yourself. Until then, keep your critiques and snide comments
    >to you

I have driven the Amalfi coast, to Europeans its nothing that
unusual or difficult. Its just another winding mountain road,
surely such roads exist in US? (if any Americans want a road that
really is quite difficult but still in Europe try the Hardnott
Pass in Cumbria, UK, which has real hairpins (full lock) is very
steep to the point of wheelspin if you have to restart and
requires first gear for a lot of the time, and is only wide
enough for one car at a time (there are passing places) ).

Your idea of not driving in the gutter is good, except when
someone wants to overtake. Then the best thing is to let
obviously faster drivers by, just slow on what passes for a
straight bit, indicating right.
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Following up to Alan S

    >nothing
    >had prepared me for Naples

Naples is indeed a hoot :-) Craziest and funniest driving I have
seen, everybody seems completely mad but in good humour about it,
I thought whizzing down a tram only section when no tram imminent
was the maddest thing I saw. The trick is never "see" anybody, if
they spot you (or front passenger) have seen them they have the
upper hand in blocking your path. If you appear to be looking the
other way they will have second thoughts. Always assume traffic
will emerge from side streets, even against red lights.
--
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