Digital photography, changing the world
Nov 25th 2004, 8:32 pm
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Re: Digital photography, changing the world
In article <[email protected]>, Jeremy Henderson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2004-11-25 21:23:36 +0100, poldy <[email protected]> said:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>> I saw HDTV demonstrations here in Europe 15 years ago. The quality of
> >>> ordinary broadcast TV is higher than that of NTSC, and broadcast HDTV is
> >>> not yet widespread.
> >>
> >> The programs are better too :-)
> >
> > And yet, European TV buys and airs a lot of American programming. ;)
>
> Not a very high percentage of what's shown in the US is bought and
> aired in Europe. Having said that, many American shows are among the
> best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
> Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
They loved the 'West Wing'.
jay
Thu Nov 25, 2004
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>
> J;
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2004-11-25 21:23:36 +0100, poldy <[email protected]> said:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >>> I saw HDTV demonstrations here in Europe 15 years ago. The quality of
> >>> ordinary broadcast TV is higher than that of NTSC, and broadcast HDTV is
> >>> not yet widespread.
> >>
> >> The programs are better too :-)
> >
> > And yet, European TV buys and airs a lot of American programming. ;)
>
> Not a very high percentage of what's shown in the US is bought and
> aired in Europe. Having said that, many American shows are among the
> best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
> Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
They loved the 'West Wing'.
jay
Thu Nov 25, 2004
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>
> J;
Nov 25th 2004, 8:53 pm
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Re: Digital photography, changing the world
Jeremy Henderson writes:
> Not a very high percentage of what's shown in the US is bought and
> aired in Europe. Having said that, many American shows are among the
> best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
> Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
"The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
"Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
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> Not a very high percentage of what's shown in the US is bought and
> aired in Europe. Having said that, many American shows are among the
> best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
> Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
"The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
"Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
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Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly.
Nov 25th 2004, 8:54 pm
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Jeremy Henderson writes:
>> Not a very high percentage of what's shown in the US is bought and
>> aired in Europe. Having said that, many American shows are among the
>> best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>> Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
>"The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>"Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
Yeah, they were all crap ...
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wrote:
>Jeremy Henderson writes:
>> Not a very high percentage of what's shown in the US is bought and
>> aired in Europe. Having said that, many American shows are among the
>> best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>> Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
>"The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>"Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
Yeah, they were all crap ...
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Nov 26th 2004, 5:15 am
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On 2004-11-25 22:54:18 +0100, [email protected] said:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> "The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>> "Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>
> Yeah, they were all crap ...
Now, now. They may not seem very good to you, but Mixi's entitled to
like them if he wants to.
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> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> "The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>> "Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>
> Yeah, they were all crap ...
Now, now. They may not seem very good to you, but Mixi's entitled to
like them if he wants to.
J;
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Nov 26th 2004, 7:09 am
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Following up to Jeremy Henderson
>Having said that, many American shows are among the
>best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
Really? Twin Peaks I agree. But US humour and taste isn't the
same as UK, "The Office" and "The League of Gentlemen" made it
worth having a TV licence, I wouldn't buy one for those other
shows you list.
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>Having said that, many American shows are among the
>best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
Really? Twin Peaks I agree. But US humour and taste isn't the
same as UK, "The Office" and "The League of Gentlemen" made it
worth having a TV licence, I wouldn't buy one for those other
shows you list.
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Nov 26th 2004, 7:35 am
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:24:41 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Ellie C writes:
>
>> I'm mystified by printing them at all.
>
> I print them for clients who want prints, and for a portfolio to carry
> around, and that's about it. I've only printed about two dozen out of
> 10,000 or so photos.
I'm not surprised.
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Tim C.
> Ellie C writes:
>
>> I'm mystified by printing them at all.
>
> I print them for clients who want prints, and for a portfolio to carry
> around, and that's about it. I've only printed about two dozen out of
> 10,000 or so photos.
I'm not surprised.
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Nov 26th 2004, 7:36 am
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:45:07 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Also, it sounds like developing film is more energy-intensive than
>> printing digital files.
>
> Cite? (Just wondering if you practice what you preach.)
He said it "sounds like" (opinion) not "is" (fact).
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>> Also, it sounds like developing film is more energy-intensive than
>> printing digital files.
>
> Cite? (Just wondering if you practice what you preach.)
He said it "sounds like" (opinion) not "is" (fact).
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Nov 26th 2004, 7:38 am
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:15:23 +0100, Jeremy Henderson wrote:
> On 2004-11-25 22:54:18 +0100, [email protected] said:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>
>>> "The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>>> "Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>>
>> Yeah, they were all crap ...
>
> Now, now. They may not seem very good to you, but Mixi's entitled to
> like them if he wants to.
>
> J;
He should sell his TV and buy a 2-ring combination oven. In the process
learning how to cook real food (not just microwaved scrambled eggs) and
getting a life. ;-)
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> On 2004-11-25 22:54:18 +0100, [email protected] said:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>
>>> "The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>>> "Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>>
>> Yeah, they were all crap ...
>
> Now, now. They may not seem very good to you, but Mixi's entitled to
> like them if he wants to.
>
> J;
He should sell his TV and buy a 2-ring combination oven. In the process
learning how to cook real food (not just microwaved scrambled eggs) and
getting a life. ;-)
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Tim C.
Nov 26th 2004, 7:42 am
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:31:55 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> because you over snip, your statement that silver is recycled
>> disappeared some time ago. The fact is some that some silver is
>> recycled and some is lost. Silver is a finite resource paper isn't.
>
> So is silicon, boron, gallium, arsenic, and a long list of other
> elements necessary to fabricate chips and electronic gadgets.
>
> Silver is 100 times more plentiful than gold, and gold is required in
> every chip made.
And silver is required in every photographic print made. That silver is
hardly ever recovered.
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>> because you over snip, your statement that silver is recycled
>> disappeared some time ago. The fact is some that some silver is
>> recycled and some is lost. Silver is a finite resource paper isn't.
>
> So is silicon, boron, gallium, arsenic, and a long list of other
> elements necessary to fabricate chips and electronic gadgets.
>
> Silver is 100 times more plentiful than gold, and gold is required in
> every chip made.
And silver is required in every photographic print made. That silver is
hardly ever recovered.
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Nov 26th 2004, 7:58 am
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:15:23 +0100, Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 2004-11-25 22:54:18 +0100, [email protected] said:
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> "The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>>> "Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>>
>> Yeah, they were all crap ...
>Now, now. They may not seem very good to you, but Mixi's entitled to
>like them if he wants to.
and I'm allowed to say what I think about them too. If that's the list
of America's finest TV output no wonder we rarely watch TV anymore.
I'm a bit surprised he omitted The Bald and the Beautiful - Madam
Tussaud's animated dummies.
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wrote:
>On 2004-11-25 22:54:18 +0100, [email protected] said:
>> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:53:23 +0100, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> "The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>>> "Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>>
>> Yeah, they were all crap ...
>Now, now. They may not seem very good to you, but Mixi's entitled to
>like them if he wants to.
and I'm allowed to say what I think about them too. If that's the list
of America's finest TV output no wonder we rarely watch TV anymore.
I'm a bit surprised he omitted The Bald and the Beautiful - Madam
Tussaud's animated dummies.
--
Martin
Nov 26th 2004, 8:02 am
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:35:35 +0100, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:24:41 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Ellie C writes:
>>
>>> I'm mystified by printing them at all.
>>
>> I print them for clients who want prints, and for a portfolio to carry
>> around, and that's about it. I've only printed about two dozen out of
>> 10,000 or so photos.
>I'm not surprised.
Sunsets aren't selling well this year.
Mike Reid has collared the market :-)
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:24:41 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Ellie C writes:
>>
>>> I'm mystified by printing them at all.
>>
>> I print them for clients who want prints, and for a portfolio to carry
>> around, and that's about it. I've only printed about two dozen out of
>> 10,000 or so photos.
>I'm not surprised.
Sunsets aren't selling well this year.
Mike Reid has collared the market :-)
--
Martin
Nov 26th 2004, 8:03 am
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:36:47 +0100, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:45:07 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Also, it sounds like developing film is more energy-intensive than
>>> printing digital files.
>>
>> Cite? (Just wondering if you practice what you preach.)
>He said it "sounds like" (opinion) not "is" (fact).
I thought he meant shite ;-)
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 21:45:07 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Also, it sounds like developing film is more energy-intensive than
>>> printing digital files.
>>
>> Cite? (Just wondering if you practice what you preach.)
>He said it "sounds like" (opinion) not "is" (fact).
I thought he meant shite ;-)
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Nov 26th 2004, 8:09 am
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 08:09:55 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Jeremy Henderson
>>Having said that, many American shows are among the
>>best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>>Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
>Really? Twin Peaks I agree. But US humour and taste isn't the
>same as UK, "The Office" and "The League of Gentlemen" made it
>worth having a TV licence, I wouldn't buy one for those other
>shows you list.
Nor me and I don't :-)
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Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Jeremy Henderson
>>Having said that, many American shows are among the
>>best things on UK TV - I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>>Sopranos, NYPD Blue, Twin Peaks.
>Really? Twin Peaks I agree. But US humour and taste isn't the
>same as UK, "The Office" and "The League of Gentlemen" made it
>worth having a TV licence, I wouldn't buy one for those other
>shows you list.
Nor me and I don't :-)
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Martin
Nov 26th 2004, 8:50 am
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:02:41 +0100, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:35:35 +0100, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:24:41 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Ellie C writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm mystified by printing them at all.
>>>
>>> I print them for clients who want prints, and for a portfolio to carry
>>> around, and that's about it. I've only printed about two dozen out of
>>> 10,000 or so photos.
>>I'm not surprised.
>
> Sunsets aren't selling well this year.
> Mike Reid has collared the market :-)
:-)
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Tim C.
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:35:35 +0100, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:24:41 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>> Ellie C writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm mystified by printing them at all.
>>>
>>> I print them for clients who want prints, and for a portfolio to carry
>>> around, and that's about it. I've only printed about two dozen out of
>>> 10,000 or so photos.
>>I'm not surprised.
>
> Sunsets aren't selling well this year.
> Mike Reid has collared the market :-)
:-)
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Nov 26th 2004, 8:58 am
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Following up to [email protected]
>I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>>> Sopranos, NYPD Blue,
>>"The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>>"Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>Yeah, they were all crap ...
I assumed we bought these things because they were going cheap,
and morons will watch any old crap?
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>I'm thinking of things like 6 Feet Under, The
>>> Sopranos, NYPD Blue,
>>"The Young and the Restless," "Beverly Hills 90210," "Wheel of Fortune,"
>>"Dallas," "Dynasty" ... the list goes on and on.
>Yeah, they were all crap ...
I assumed we bought these things because they were going cheap,
and morons will watch any old crap?
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap