cheapest country
May 22nd 2007, 9:09 pm
#121
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:18:25 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
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>You cant be getting spanish food right.
try fabada, paella or other arroz'es, make a list from my website
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wrote:
>You cant be getting spanish food right.
try fabada, paella or other arroz'es, make a list from my website
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Walking in Spain & Spanish regional cooking at
"http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
May 22nd 2007, 9:11 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
>> >and it is a lot cheaper.
>>
>> you get what you pay for.
>
>Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
>don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
>lot cheaper.
its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier in my limited experience and that
of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
>> >and it is a lot cheaper.
>>
>> you get what you pay for.
>
>Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
>don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
>lot cheaper.
its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier in my limited experience and that
of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
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Mike Reid
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May 22nd 2007, 9:37 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:07:39 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
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>>Eh? Of course they do- actually, they don't need to order it, it
>>frequently comes with the main course. I've eaten in lots of non-tourist
>>places where it was perfectly normal- and dined with plenty of spaniards
>>eating them too.
>
>it never happens to me.....
.....obviously there are dishes with chips but I dont order them*, I
just have never ever found myself being given unordered chips or been
offered them as a "side"*****. But then ive never ordewred a "side".
Ive been given lots of unordered alioli though. Praps I just look
sophisicated? :-)
*except mero with clam sauce and thin chips in San Jose** Cabo de
Gato******
** how do you pronounce Jose*** when in England, I hope not Ho-Zay,
that would be pretentious :-)
*** I thought the TV people had got the football mamagers name all
wrong till I found out he is portugese****
****mind you the galican "Jose" is "Xose"
***** a US term for er, side dishes
****** bottom right hand corner
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wrote:
>>Eh? Of course they do- actually, they don't need to order it, it
>>frequently comes with the main course. I've eaten in lots of non-tourist
>>places where it was perfectly normal- and dined with plenty of spaniards
>>eating them too.
>
>it never happens to me.....
.....obviously there are dishes with chips but I dont order them*, I
just have never ever found myself being given unordered chips or been
offered them as a "side"*****. But then ive never ordewred a "side".
Ive been given lots of unordered alioli though. Praps I just look
sophisicated? :-)
*except mero with clam sauce and thin chips in San Jose** Cabo de
Gato******
** how do you pronounce Jose*** when in England, I hope not Ho-Zay,
that would be pretentious :-)
*** I thought the TV people had got the football mamagers name all
wrong till I found out he is portugese****
****mind you the galican "Jose" is "Xose"
***** a US term for er, side dishes
****** bottom right hand corner
--
Mike Reid
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email me at "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk"
May 22nd 2007, 11:44 pm
#124
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Re: cheapest country
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:40:53 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> if you arent bothering with non spanish food dont order chip "sides"!
> >> I dont think they do.
> >
> >Eh? Of course they do- actually, they don't need to order it, it
> >frequently comes with the main course. I've eaten in lots of non-tourist
> >places where it was perfectly normal- and dined with plenty of spaniards
> >eating them too.
>
> it never happens to me!
Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
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> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:40:53 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> if you arent bothering with non spanish food dont order chip "sides"!
> >> I dont think they do.
> >
> >Eh? Of course they do- actually, they don't need to order it, it
> >frequently comes with the main course. I've eaten in lots of non-tourist
> >places where it was perfectly normal- and dined with plenty of spaniards
> >eating them too.
>
> it never happens to me!
Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
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May 22nd 2007, 11:44 pm
#125
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
> >> >and it is a lot cheaper.
> >>
> >> you get what you pay for.
> >
> >Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
> >don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
> >lot cheaper.
>
> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
What on earth does that mean?
> in my limited experience and that
> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
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Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
> >> >and it is a lot cheaper.
> >>
> >> you get what you pay for.
> >
> >Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
> >don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
> >lot cheaper.
>
> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
What on earth does that mean?
> in my limited experience and that
> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
--
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May 23rd 2007, 1:24 am
#126
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> it never happens to me!
>
>Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
you need to frequent posher places! :-)
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> it never happens to me!
>
>Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
you need to frequent posher places! :-)
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May 23rd 2007, 1:28 am
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
>
>What on earth does that mean?
prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
Bulli.
>> in my limited experience and that
>> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
>
>Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
it was a specific comparison between the two national hotel
chains!!!!!
>I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
>quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
>Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
like I said, cheaper. They also speak very odd spanish.
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
>
>What on earth does that mean?
prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
Bulli.
>> in my limited experience and that
>> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
>
>Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
it was a specific comparison between the two national hotel
chains!!!!!
>I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
>quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
>Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
like I said, cheaper. They also speak very odd spanish.
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May 23rd 2007, 1:28 am
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Re: cheapest country
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> it never happens to me!
> >
> >Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
>
> you need to frequent posher places! :-)
I do, and it's rarer, but I thought the issue here was good quality food
at the lower end of the scale?
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Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> it never happens to me!
> >
> >Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
>
> you need to frequent posher places! :-)
I do, and it's rarer, but I thought the issue here was good quality food
at the lower end of the scale?
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 23rd 2007, 1:30 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
> >
> >What on earth does that mean?
>
> prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
> Bulli.
Most people don't eat at places like el Bulli. Spaniards often eat quite
simply when they go out, at least in my limited experience...
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Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
> >
> >What on earth does that mean?
>
> prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
> Bulli.
Most people don't eat at places like el Bulli. Spaniards often eat quite
simply when they go out, at least in my limited experience...
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 23rd 2007, 1:48 am
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:28:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
>>
>> you need to frequent posher places! :-)
>
>I do, and it's rarer, but I thought the issue here was good quality food
>at the lower end of the scale?
which in Spain would be tapas for me, never see any chips in a tapa
:-)
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
>>
>> you need to frequent posher places! :-)
>
>I do, and it's rarer, but I thought the issue here was good quality food
>at the lower end of the scale?
which in Spain would be tapas for me, never see any chips in a tapa
:-)
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May 23rd 2007, 1:50 am
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Re: cheapest country
On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:30:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
>> Bulli.
>
>Most people don't eat at places like el Bulli.
of course not, it was an example of the fact theres more top end
restros in Spain than Portugal to justify my earlier comment.
>Spaniards often eat quite
>simply when they go out, at least in my limited experience...
Sure. Other times they dont......
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_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
>> Bulli.
>
>Most people don't eat at places like el Bulli.
of course not, it was an example of the fact theres more top end
restros in Spain than Portugal to justify my earlier comment.
>Spaniards often eat quite
>simply when they go out, at least in my limited experience...
Sure. Other times they dont......
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May 23rd 2007, 2:55 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:28:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
> >>
> >> you need to frequent posher places! :-)
> >
> >I do, and it's rarer, but I thought the issue here was good quality food
> >at the lower end of the scale?
>
> which in Spain would be tapas for me, never see any chips in a tapa
Yes you do, just a bit bigger, sometimes with a spicy mayo-type sauce or
something else- nothing, in some cases.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:28:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >Manifestly, but I see it frequently.
> >>
> >> you need to frequent posher places! :-)
> >
> >I do, and it's rarer, but I thought the issue here was good quality food
> >at the lower end of the scale?
>
> which in Spain would be tapas for me, never see any chips in a tapa
Yes you do, just a bit bigger, sometimes with a spicy mayo-type sauce or
something else- nothing, in some cases.
--
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 23rd 2007, 2:55 am
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:30:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
> >> Bulli.
> >
> >Most people don't eat at places like el Bulli.
>
> of course not, it was an example of the fact theres more top end
> restros in Spain than Portugal to justify my earlier comment.
I was surprised at the high quality of Portugese restaurants even in a
tourist resort like Lagos. We dined at a somewhat fancier one there, in
part because it had a non-smoking floor (which seems extremely rare in
Portugal- though that will change soon) and still weren't paying much.
Maybe 30 euro per person.
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Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:30:59 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> prices are slightly lower and there are less swish places like el
> >> Bulli.
> >
> >Most people don't eat at places like el Bulli.
>
> of course not, it was an example of the fact theres more top end
> restros in Spain than Portugal to justify my earlier comment.
I was surprised at the high quality of Portugese restaurants even in a
tourist resort like Lagos. We dined at a somewhat fancier one there, in
part because it had a non-smoking floor (which seems extremely rare in
Portugal- though that will change soon) and still weren't paying much.
Maybe 30 euro per person.
--
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May 23rd 2007, 3:19 am
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On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
>> >> >and it is a lot cheaper.
>> >>
>> >> you get what you pay for.
>> >
>> >Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
>> >don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
>> >lot cheaper.
>>
>> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
>
>What on earth does that mean?
>
>> in my limited experience and that
>> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
>
>Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
>
>I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
>quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
>Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
Where I used to work I found the Portuguese far more attractive than the
Spaniards. Perhaps something to do with the Spaniards all being male and the
Portuguese all females.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
>> >> >and it is a lot cheaper.
>> >>
>> >> you get what you pay for.
>> >
>> >Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
>> >don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
>> >lot cheaper.
>>
>> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
>
>What on earth does that mean?
>
>> in my limited experience and that
>> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
>
>Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
>
>I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
>quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
>Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
Where I used to work I found the Portuguese far more attractive than the
Spaniards. Perhaps something to do with the Spaniards all being male and the
Portuguese all females.
--
Martin
May 23rd 2007, 3:22 am
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
> >> >> >and it is a lot cheaper.
> >> >>
> >> >> you get what you pay for.
> >> >
> >> >Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
> >> >don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
> >> >lot cheaper.
> >>
> >> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
> >
> >What on earth does that mean?
> >
> >> in my limited experience and that
> >> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
> >
> >Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
> >
> >I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
> >quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
> >Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
>
> Where I used to work I found the Portuguese far more attractive than the
> Spaniards. Perhaps something to do with the Spaniards all being male and
> the Portuguese all females.
This is a tough one. I find many Spaniards attractive. At a slight
pinch, it seemed to me there were more attractive men in Portugal, but I
think that's attributed more to the fact that I haven't been to Spain
since January, and with every day I get older, the average looks of
everyone else gets better. One of the nice things about ageing!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:44:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 23 May 2007 09:42:38 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >Why wouldn't you go to Portugal. Honestly, it is right nextto Spain
> >> >> >and it is a lot cheaper.
> >> >>
> >> >> you get what you pay for.
> >> >
> >> >Huh? The food in Portugal is excellent, and it's a beautiful country. I
> >> >don't get you here. Portugal is cheaper than Spain- but I wouldn't say a
> >> >lot cheaper.
> >>
> >> its a bit cheaper and a bit tattier
> >
> >What on earth does that mean?
> >
> >> in my limited experience and that
> >> of friends comparing the paradors with the posadas.
> >
> >Great. Let's have some more generalisations.
> >
> >I found the quality of the fish in particular excellent in Portugal-
> >quality was similar to what I'd expect in a similar price range to
> >Spain, just a little cheaper- and of course it was _different_.
>
> Where I used to work I found the Portuguese far more attractive than the
> Spaniards. Perhaps something to do with the Spaniards all being male and
> the Portuguese all females.
This is a tough one. I find many Spaniards attractive. At a slight
pinch, it seemed to me there were more attractive men in Portugal, but I
think that's attributed more to the fact that I haven't been to Spain
since January, and with every day I get older, the average looks of
everyone else gets better. One of the nice things about ageing!
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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