cheapest country
May 21st 2007, 9:18 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:34:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:02:11 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[]
> >> >> Demonstrating yet again how expensive even subsidised train travel is.
> >> >
> >> >To a point. If I had to travel to Barcelona buying the flight a couple
> >> >of days before, I wouldn't fancy my chances. I paid �210 for a one-way
> >> >from Liverpool to Girona last year- fully refunded as the flight was
> >> >cancelled FWIW. People do the same thing here- comparing the train from
> >> >Manchester to London to the plane. Yes, it's actually possible to find
> >> >train fares well above plane fares, but ones you actually compare like
> >> >for like (i.e. book ahead via fully flexible) you usually get a 3 to 1
> >> >price ratio in favour of the train...
> >>
> >> There didn't appear to be any cheap deals on the Stoke on Trent London
> >> route irrespective of when you bought a ticket.
> >
> >Irrespective is a load of crap."Didn't appear to be" is meaningless.
>
> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been posting about
> cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals, there weren't any, no
> matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares. On some routes, you'll get them
a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
rare to count on.
> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
> >plane, which I referred to.
>
> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much more than
> two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:34:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:02:11 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[]
> >> >> Demonstrating yet again how expensive even subsidised train travel is.
> >> >
> >> >To a point. If I had to travel to Barcelona buying the flight a couple
> >> >of days before, I wouldn't fancy my chances. I paid �210 for a one-way
> >> >from Liverpool to Girona last year- fully refunded as the flight was
> >> >cancelled FWIW. People do the same thing here- comparing the train from
> >> >Manchester to London to the plane. Yes, it's actually possible to find
> >> >train fares well above plane fares, but ones you actually compare like
> >> >for like (i.e. book ahead via fully flexible) you usually get a 3 to 1
> >> >price ratio in favour of the train...
> >>
> >> There didn't appear to be any cheap deals on the Stoke on Trent London
> >> route irrespective of when you bought a ticket.
> >
> >Irrespective is a load of crap."Didn't appear to be" is meaningless.
>
> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been posting about
> cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals, there weren't any, no
> matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares. On some routes, you'll get them
a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
rare to count on.
> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
> >plane, which I referred to.
>
> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much more than
> two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 21st 2007, 9:20 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
>
> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
euro range.
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"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
>
> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
euro range.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 21st 2007, 9:22 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:18:15 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:34:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:02:11 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >> Demonstrating yet again how expensive even subsidised train travel is.
>> >> >
>> >> >To a point. If I had to travel to Barcelona buying the flight a couple
>> >> >of days before, I wouldn't fancy my chances. I paid �210 for a one-way
>> >> >from Liverpool to Girona last year- fully refunded as the flight was
>> >> >cancelled FWIW. People do the same thing here- comparing the train from
>> >> >Manchester to London to the plane. Yes, it's actually possible to find
>> >> >train fares well above plane fares, but ones you actually compare like
>> >> >for like (i.e. book ahead via fully flexible) you usually get a 3 to 1
>> >> >price ratio in favour of the train...
>> >>
>> >> There didn't appear to be any cheap deals on the Stoke on Trent London
>> >> route irrespective of when you bought a ticket.
>> >
>> >Irrespective is a load of crap."Didn't appear to be" is meaningless.
>>
>> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been posting about
>> cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals, there weren't any, no
>> matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
>
>You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
>weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares.
Every weekend? don't you normally travel to London on weekdays?
>On some routes, you'll get them
>a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
>rare to count on.
I gave two specific examples.
>
>> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
>> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
>> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
>> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
>> >plane, which I referred to.
>>
>> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much more than
>> two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
>
>Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
>hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
>two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
>booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
>just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
You can't possibly have just checked the situation weeks ago. There were no
cheap fares. End of discussion as far as I am concerned.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:34:13 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:02:11 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >> Demonstrating yet again how expensive even subsidised train travel is.
>> >> >
>> >> >To a point. If I had to travel to Barcelona buying the flight a couple
>> >> >of days before, I wouldn't fancy my chances. I paid �210 for a one-way
>> >> >from Liverpool to Girona last year- fully refunded as the flight was
>> >> >cancelled FWIW. People do the same thing here- comparing the train from
>> >> >Manchester to London to the plane. Yes, it's actually possible to find
>> >> >train fares well above plane fares, but ones you actually compare like
>> >> >for like (i.e. book ahead via fully flexible) you usually get a 3 to 1
>> >> >price ratio in favour of the train...
>> >>
>> >> There didn't appear to be any cheap deals on the Stoke on Trent London
>> >> route irrespective of when you bought a ticket.
>> >
>> >Irrespective is a load of crap."Didn't appear to be" is meaningless.
>>
>> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been posting about
>> cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals, there weren't any, no
>> matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
>
>You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
>weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares.
Every weekend? don't you normally travel to London on weekdays?
>On some routes, you'll get them
>a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
>rare to count on.
I gave two specific examples.
>
>> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
>> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
>> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
>> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
>> >plane, which I referred to.
>>
>> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much more than
>> two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
>
>Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
>hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
>two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
>booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
>just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
You can't possibly have just checked the situation weeks ago. There were no
cheap fares. End of discussion as far as I am concerned.
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 9:26 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
>>
>> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
>
>Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
>euro range.
EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than enough for
two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR 11.
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
>>
>> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
>
>Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
>euro range.
EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than enough for
two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR 11.
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 9:32 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:18:15 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been
> >> posting about cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals,
> >> there weren't any, no matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
> >
> >You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
> >weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares.
>
> Every weekend? don't you normally travel to London on weekdays?
I travel whenever I have to travel- my work isn't weekday based. It's
easier to get cheaper fares Monday-Thursday IME, but if I know my travel
plans far enough in advance, I can get them on weekends.
> >On some routes, you'll get them
> >a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
> >rare to count on.
>
> I gave two specific examples.
> >
> >> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
> >> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
> >> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
> >> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
> >> >plane, which I referred to.
> >>
> >> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much
> >> more than two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
> >
> >Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
> >hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
> >two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
> >booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
> >just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
>
> You can't possibly have just checked the situation weeks ago. There were no
> cheap fares. End of discussion as far as I am concerned.
In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
website as these things go...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:18:15 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
[]
> >> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been
> >> posting about cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals,
> >> there weren't any, no matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
> >
> >You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
> >weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares.
>
> Every weekend? don't you normally travel to London on weekdays?
I travel whenever I have to travel- my work isn't weekday based. It's
easier to get cheaper fares Monday-Thursday IME, but if I know my travel
plans far enough in advance, I can get them on weekends.
> >On some routes, you'll get them
> >a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
> >rare to count on.
>
> I gave two specific examples.
> >
> >> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
> >> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
> >> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
> >> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
> >> >plane, which I referred to.
> >>
> >> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much
> >> more than two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
> >
> >Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
> >hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
> >two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
> >booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
> >just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
>
> You can't possibly have just checked the situation weeks ago. There were no
> cheap fares. End of discussion as far as I am concerned.
In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
website as these things go...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 21st 2007, 9:33 pm
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Re: cheapest country
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>Day trip to Holland with the car is about £120 for two at the moment,
>>including two nights on the boat.
>
> A trip for a one or two week return is substantially more. The GBP120
> doesn't
> include EUR 120 for meals does it?
Nope.
Nobody ever buys dinner on the way out, everyone I know brings
sandwiches...
Coming back, I know Hull quite well and go and find some breakfast.
So meals on the ship at 'that end' only.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
news:[email protected]...
>>Day trip to Holland with the car is about £120 for two at the moment,
>>including two nights on the boat.
>
> A trip for a one or two week return is substantially more. The GBP120
> doesn't
> include EUR 120 for meals does it?
Nope.
Nobody ever buys dinner on the way out, everyone I know brings
sandwiches...
Coming back, I know Hull quite well and go and find some breakfast.
So meals on the ship at 'that end' only.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
May 21st 2007, 9:43 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 09:33:09 GMT, "William Black" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>
>>>Day trip to Holland with the car is about �120 for two at the moment,
>>>including two nights on the boat.
>>
>> A trip for a one or two week return is substantially more. The GBP120
>> doesn't
>> include EUR 120 for meals does it?
>
>Nope.
>
>Nobody ever buys dinner on the way out, everyone I know brings
>sandwiches...
Despite which the restaurant is full and there are queues. All the window seats
are occupied by people on cheap coach trips.
One attraction of the restaurant is that it is Non Smoking. Elsewhere Non
Smoking is based on the no pissing in this part of the swimming pool principle.
>
>Coming back, I know Hull quite well and go and find some breakfast.
Ah! Tell me where, because whilst the meals on the English boat are reasonable
value, the food on the Dutch boat has become really bad.
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Martin
wrote:
>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>
>>>Day trip to Holland with the car is about �120 for two at the moment,
>>>including two nights on the boat.
>>
>> A trip for a one or two week return is substantially more. The GBP120
>> doesn't
>> include EUR 120 for meals does it?
>
>Nope.
>
>Nobody ever buys dinner on the way out, everyone I know brings
>sandwiches...
Despite which the restaurant is full and there are queues. All the window seats
are occupied by people on cheap coach trips.
One attraction of the restaurant is that it is Non Smoking. Elsewhere Non
Smoking is based on the no pissing in this part of the swimming pool principle.
>
>Coming back, I know Hull quite well and go and find some breakfast.
Ah! Tell me where, because whilst the meals on the English boat are reasonable
value, the food on the Dutch boat has become really bad.
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 9:45 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:18:15 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been
>> >> posting about cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals,
>> >> there weren't any, no matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
>> >
>> >You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
>> >weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares.
>>
>> Every weekend? don't you normally travel to London on weekdays?
>
>I travel whenever I have to travel- my work isn't weekday based. It's
>easier to get cheaper fares Monday-Thursday IME, but if I know my travel
>plans far enough in advance, I can get them on weekends.
>
>> >On some routes, you'll get them
>> >a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
>> >rare to count on.
>>
>> I gave two specific examples.
>
>> >
>> >> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
>> >> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
>> >> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
>> >> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
>> >> >plane, which I referred to.
>> >>
>> >> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much
>> >> more than two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
>> >
>> >Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
>> >hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
>> >two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
>> >booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
>> >just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
>>
>> You can't possibly have just checked the situation weeks ago. There were no
>> cheap fares. End of discussion as far as I am concerned.
>
>In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
>April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
>Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
>tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
>enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
>tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
>understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
>website as these things go...
Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
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Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:18:15 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>[]
>> >> No it's not meaningless, it's reality. I read what you have been
>> >> posting about cheap trips and wasted hours looking for cheap deals,
>> >> there weren't any, no matter how many weeks we looked in advance.
>> >
>> >You wasted hours? That's very ineffecient. If I'm booking a couple of
>> >weeks in advance, I'll get cheap fares.
>>
>> Every weekend? don't you normally travel to London on weekdays?
>
>I travel whenever I have to travel- my work isn't weekday based. It's
>easier to get cheaper fares Monday-Thursday IME, but if I know my travel
>plans far enough in advance, I can get them on weekends.
>
>> >On some routes, you'll get them
>> >a day before, such as my trip to Lichfield last week, but that's too
>> >rare to count on.
>>
>> I gave two specific examples.
>
>> >
>> >> >There are plenty of deals available at the moment, depending how far you
>> >> >book ahead- 2 weeks is better than one week. I don't have a clue what
>> >> >your "Didn't appear to be" referred to- weekends get busier quicker, and
>> >> >for weekdays, you should try at least 2 weeks in advance- as with the
>> >> >plane, which I referred to.
>> >>
>> >> The trip was go on Friday return on Sunday. She started looking much
>> >> more than two weeks in advance, the trip was three or four weeks ago.
>> >
>> >Fridays and Sundays are the busiest travel days on the WCML, and the
>> >hardest to get cheap fares. However, they are there. Booking a week or
>> >two in advance will get you the advance �37 (value advance B) fare,
>> >booking 4 weeks in advance the cheapest �25 (value advance C) one. I
>> >just checked, and it took a minute, not hours.
>>
>> You can't possibly have just checked the situation weeks ago. There were no
>> cheap fares. End of discussion as far as I am concerned.
>
>In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
>April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
>Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
>tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
>enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
>tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
>understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
>website as these things go...
Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
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May 21st 2007, 9:51 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
[]
> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
> >website as these things go...
>
> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
of July.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
[]
> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
> >website as these things go...
>
> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
of July.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 21st 2007, 9:56 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
> >>
> >> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
> >
> >Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
> >euro range.
>
> EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
>
> A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than enough for
> two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR 11.
Fish and chips are also, but even if they're good, I would only want to
eat it once on a trip.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
> >>
> >> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
> >
> >Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
> >euro range.
>
> EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
>
> A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than enough for
> two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR 11.
Fish and chips are also, but even if they're good, I would only want to
eat it once on a trip.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 21st 2007, 9:59 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>[]
>> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
>> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
>> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
>> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
>> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
>> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
>> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
>> >website as these things go...
>>
>> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
>> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
>
>If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
>check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
>in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
>check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
>advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
>only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
>after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
>of July.
We thought it was like booking on Easyjet. Are you saying that the cheap fares
offered are fixed months in advance?
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>[]
>> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
>> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
>> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
>> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
>> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
>> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
>> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
>> >website as these things go...
>>
>> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
>> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
>
>If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
>check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
>in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
>check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
>advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
>only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
>after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
>of July.
We thought it was like booking on Easyjet. Are you saying that the cheap fares
offered are fixed months in advance?
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 10:05 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:56:36 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
>> >>
>> >> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
>> >
>> >Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
>> >euro range.
>>
>> EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
>>
>> A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than enough for
>> two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR 11.
>
>Fish and chips are also, but even if they're good, I would only want to
>eat it once on a trip.
In UK or in NL?
It looks like we will have to make do with taking a packed lunch :-)
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
>> >>
>> >> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
>> >
>> >Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
>> >euro range.
>>
>> EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
>>
>> A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than enough for
>> two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR 11.
>
>Fish and chips are also, but even if they're good, I would only want to
>eat it once on a trip.
In UK or in NL?
It looks like we will have to make do with taking a packed lunch :-)
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 10:08 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >[]
> >> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
> >> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
> >> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
> >> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
> >> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
> >> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
> >> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
> >> >website as these things go...
> >>
> >> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
> >> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
> >
> >If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
> >check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
> >in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
> >check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
> >advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
> >only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
> >after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
> >of July.
>
> We thought it was like booking on Easyjet. Are you saying that the cheap fares
> offered are fixed months in advance?
The number of cheap fares on each trains is fixed, so when the cheapest
are gone, only the next cheapest is available, and when all the cheap
fares are gone, only standard fares are available. They are usually
available 2-3 months in advance. I've read (on uk.railway, one of
Usenet's best fora BTW) that sometimes you might have difficulty booking
4 or more weeks ahead, as you come up to the point when more fares will
be released. Oddly, I don't remember encountering that, and I usually
book tickets to a variety of destinations each week.
I thought that was similar to Easyjet, only that easyjet release their
fares much further in advance?
The rail fares are definitely quota controlled- on trains I had no
problem getting a cheap ticket a week in advance, they are generally
quite empty. On Sundays, which are difficult to get cheap tickets on the
WCML, the trains are full and if you don't have a reservation, you might
not get a seat, though you can sit in first class for an extra �15...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >[]
> >> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
> >> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
> >> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
> >> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
> >> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
> >> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
> >> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
> >> >website as these things go...
> >>
> >> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
> >> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
> >
> >If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
> >check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
> >in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
> >check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
> >advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
> >only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
> >after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
> >of July.
>
> We thought it was like booking on Easyjet. Are you saying that the cheap fares
> offered are fixed months in advance?
The number of cheap fares on each trains is fixed, so when the cheapest
are gone, only the next cheapest is available, and when all the cheap
fares are gone, only standard fares are available. They are usually
available 2-3 months in advance. I've read (on uk.railway, one of
Usenet's best fora BTW) that sometimes you might have difficulty booking
4 or more weeks ahead, as you come up to the point when more fares will
be released. Oddly, I don't remember encountering that, and I usually
book tickets to a variety of destinations each week.
I thought that was similar to Easyjet, only that easyjet release their
fares much further in advance?
The rail fares are definitely quota controlled- on trains I had no
problem getting a cheap ticket a week in advance, they are generally
quite empty. On Sundays, which are difficult to get cheap tickets on the
WCML, the trains are full and if you don't have a reservation, you might
not get a seat, though you can sit in first class for an extra �15...
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
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May 21st 2007, 10:12 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:08:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
>> >> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
>> >> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
>> >> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
>> >> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
>> >> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
>> >> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
>> >> >website as these things go...
>> >>
>> >> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
>> >> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
>> >
>> >If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
>> >check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
>> >in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
>> >check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
>> >advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
>> >only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
>> >after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
>> >of July.
>>
>> We thought it was like booking on Easyjet. Are you saying that the cheap fares
>> offered are fixed months in advance?
>
>The number of cheap fares on each trains is fixed, so when the cheapest
>are gone, only the next cheapest is available, and when all the cheap
>fares are gone, only standard fares are available. They are usually
>available 2-3 months in advance. I've read (on uk.railway, one of
>Usenet's best fora BTW) that sometimes you might have difficulty booking
>4 or more weeks ahead, as you come up to the point when more fares will
>be released. Oddly, I don't remember encountering that, and I usually
>book tickets to a variety of destinations each week.
>
>I thought that was similar to Easyjet, only that easyjet release their
>fares much further in advance?
Easyjet & Jet 2 play a complicated game of trying to match anticipated sales to
current demand, The prices fluctuate almost continuously.
>
>The rail fares are definitely quota controlled- on trains I had no
>problem getting a cheap ticket a week in advance, they are generally
>quite empty. On Sundays, which are difficult to get cheap tickets on the
>WCML, the trains are full and if you don't have a reservation, you might
>not get a seat, though you can sit in first class for an extra �15...
OK thanks for the info, David. IMO UK long distance north south train routes are
substantially faster than any equivalent elsewhere in Europe, except France.
--
Martin
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:51:32 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:32:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >In fact, I travelled from Manchester to London on April 27, returned
>> >> >April 29. I booked the tickets on March 24, and I got the �25 fare.
>> >> >Manchester and Stoke-on-Trent are in the same quota control for these
>> >> >tickets. It sounds to be more like bad luck and not booking ahead far
>> >> >enough. But you're right- I can't know the exact situation- but these
>> >> >tickets patently do exist- I use them all the time. I still don't
>> >> >understand why it took "hours" to find the fares. It's a very effecient
>> >> >website as these things go...
>> >>
>> >> Because we started looking weeks before and we never found a cheap fare.
>> >> Obviously if you find one first time it doesn't take weeks.
>> >
>> >If you know what date you're travelling, it takes a couple of minutes to
>> >check if there's a cheap fare. If you don't find a cheap fare for a trip
>> >in a couple of week's time, you won't find it on the same date if you
>> >check again. The fares are usually available up to 2-3 months in
>> >advance. Even if you're just searching for "any Friday and Sunday" it's
>> >only going to take a few minutes to check- that's what I did just now
>> >after all- I checked every weekend on that route between now and the end
>> >of July.
>>
>> We thought it was like booking on Easyjet. Are you saying that the cheap fares
>> offered are fixed months in advance?
>
>The number of cheap fares on each trains is fixed, so when the cheapest
>are gone, only the next cheapest is available, and when all the cheap
>fares are gone, only standard fares are available. They are usually
>available 2-3 months in advance. I've read (on uk.railway, one of
>Usenet's best fora BTW) that sometimes you might have difficulty booking
>4 or more weeks ahead, as you come up to the point when more fares will
>be released. Oddly, I don't remember encountering that, and I usually
>book tickets to a variety of destinations each week.
>
>I thought that was similar to Easyjet, only that easyjet release their
>fares much further in advance?
Easyjet & Jet 2 play a complicated game of trying to match anticipated sales to
current demand, The prices fluctuate almost continuously.
>
>The rail fares are definitely quota controlled- on trains I had no
>problem getting a cheap ticket a week in advance, they are generally
>quite empty. On Sundays, which are difficult to get cheap tickets on the
>WCML, the trains are full and if you don't have a reservation, you might
>not get a seat, though you can sit in first class for an extra �15...
OK thanks for the info, David. IMO UK long distance north south train routes are
substantially faster than any equivalent elsewhere in Europe, except France.
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 10:14 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:56:36 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
> >> >
> >> >Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
> >> >euro range.
> >>
> >> EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
> >>
> >> A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than
> >> enough for two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR
> >> 11.
> >
> >Fish and chips are also, but even if they're good, I would only want to
> >eat it once on a trip.
>
> In UK or in NL?
Both. I first visited Amsterdam as a 15 year old, travelling with a
school friend, and we survived by eating a huge amount at breakfast, and
then having chips and mayo later in the day. I remember being enthralled
by all the flavours of mayo!
Those breakfasts were incredible. We stayed at a hotel near the Vondel
park, and while our accomodation was "student" class, we were actually
in the attic of the first class hotel (Kok, not sure if they're around
still) and got to have breakfast there. We were frequently the only
people having breakfast, so the Glaswegian, Liverpudlian and Lisboan
waitresses would chat and joke with us...
> It looks like we will have to make do with taking a packed lunch :-)
Or buy sandwiches! They're certainly pretty good in the UK.
I ate at a cheap sushi place near Amsterdam Centraal on a trip a few
years ago- I think I had a bento box for around 10 euro, and it was very
good.
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:56:36 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2007 10:20:07 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tieless Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 23:26:34 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >> >> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >5 euro will get a good kebab-ish meal anywhere in the UK.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wouldn't want to spend a holiday eating cheap kebabs. :-(
> >> >
> >> >Nor would I, but that's pretty much what's being compared here in the 5
> >> >euro range.
> >>
> >> EUR 5,50 buys a McD and a cup of coffee in NL. Hardly a meal.
> >>
> >> A take away for one from a Chinese restaurant is usually more than
> >> enough for two and depending on what you order could cost less than EUR
> >> 11.
> >
> >Fish and chips are also, but even if they're good, I would only want to
> >eat it once on a trip.
>
> In UK or in NL?
Both. I first visited Amsterdam as a 15 year old, travelling with a
school friend, and we survived by eating a huge amount at breakfast, and
then having chips and mayo later in the day. I remember being enthralled
by all the flavours of mayo!
Those breakfasts were incredible. We stayed at a hotel near the Vondel
park, and while our accomodation was "student" class, we were actually
in the attic of the first class hotel (Kok, not sure if they're around
still) and got to have breakfast there. We were frequently the only
people having breakfast, so the Glaswegian, Liverpudlian and Lisboan
waitresses would chat and joke with us...
> It looks like we will have to make do with taking a packed lunch :-)
Or buy sandwiches!
They're certainly pretty good in the UK.I ate at a cheap sushi place near Amsterdam Centraal on a trip a few
years ago- I think I had a bento box for around 10 euro, and it was very
good.
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