cheapest country
May 21st 2007, 7:07 pm
#31
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Re: cheapest country
Hmmm...nobody has suggested a nice B&B on the Holland/Germany border.
Strange!
> Also, what would be roughly the cost of room and board for one month
> in this country? (in U.S. dollars) This would assume I get my own
> room.
Bed and breakfast about 40-45 dollars a day/night.
Full board about 10 dollars more, if you appreciate dining with the host
family. :-)
...or have a nice hotel room with a la carte chicken in Romania for less.
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Strange!
> Also, what would be roughly the cost of room and board for one month
> in this country? (in U.S. dollars) This would assume I get my own
> room.
Bed and breakfast about 40-45 dollars a day/night.
Full board about 10 dollars more, if you appreciate dining with the host
family. :-)
...or have a nice hotel room with a la carte chicken in Romania for less.
--
Erick
"The reward for a job well done is more work."
May 21st 2007, 7:10 pm
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William Black:
> >>>> You can buy a house in Hull for the price of a week in Central London.
> >
> >>>MMMmm what a delight --------- NOT
> >>
> >>I've never been to 'ull.
> >
> > You have missed a lot ----------NOT
>
> You can have a good night out there, but don't go alone.
Well, I've been to Hull for a fortnight (officiating in a baseball
tournament) about 10 years ago and had a pretty good time there. I did go
out alone, and it was no problem at all.
Just a shame that the pubs closed at 11.
--
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"The trouble with being punctual is that people think you have nothing
better to do."
> >>>> You can buy a house in Hull for the price of a week in Central London.
> >
> >>>MMMmm what a delight --------- NOT
> >>
> >>I've never been to 'ull.
> >
> > You have missed a lot ----------NOT
>
> You can have a good night out there, but don't go alone.
Well, I've been to Hull for a fortnight (officiating in a baseball
tournament) about 10 years ago and had a pretty good time there. I did go
out alone, and it was no problem at all.
Just a shame that the pubs closed at 11.
--
Erick
"The trouble with being punctual is that people think you have nothing
better to do."
May 21st 2007, 7:35 pm
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Erick T. Barkhuis <[email protected]> wrote:
> William Black:
>
> > >>>> You can buy a house in Hull for the price of a week in Central London.
> > >
> > >>>MMMmm what a delight --------- NOT
> > >>
> > >>I've never been to 'ull.
> > >
> > > You have missed a lot ----------NOT
> >
> > You can have a good night out there, but don't go alone.
>
> Well, I've been to Hull for a fortnight (officiating in a baseball
> tournament) about 10 years ago and had a pretty good time there. I did go
> out alone, and it was no problem at all.
> Just a shame that the pubs closed at 11.
That will have changed now, of course!
Manchester's Canal Street has always had late opening for its bars well
before the recent change in law- nightclubs were always open late, of
course, but some of them are definitely 'pubs'.
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> William Black:
>
> > >>>> You can buy a house in Hull for the price of a week in Central London.
> > >
> > >>>MMMmm what a delight --------- NOT
> > >>
> > >>I've never been to 'ull.
> > >
> > > You have missed a lot ----------NOT
> >
> > You can have a good night out there, but don't go alone.
>
> Well, I've been to Hull for a fortnight (officiating in a baseball
> tournament) about 10 years ago and had a pretty good time there. I did go
> out alone, and it was no problem at all.
> Just a shame that the pubs closed at 11.
That will have changed now, of course!
Manchester's Canal Street has always had late opening for its bars well
before the recent change in law- nightclubs were always open late, of
course, but some of them are definitely 'pubs'.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 21st 2007, 8:34 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
No way!
I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
that amount.
miguel
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> Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
No way!
I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
that amount.
miguel
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May 21st 2007, 8:39 pm
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
...
... No way!
...
... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
Krokets?
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
...
... No way!
...
... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
Krokets?
May 21st 2007, 8:43 pm
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Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz
> <[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> ...
> ... No way!
> ...
> ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
>
> Krokets?
FEBO? That you can do for about a euro.
No, I was thinking of all the excellent Middle Eastern places
(principally Maoz, with branches throughout Amsterdam) and the
Chinese-Surinaams joints. The roti kip at these places can be out of
this world, and it'll fill you all day for ?4.
miguel
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> On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz
> <[email protected]>
> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> ...
> ... No way!
> ...
> ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
>
> Krokets?
FEBO? That you can do for about a euro.
No, I was thinking of all the excellent Middle Eastern places
(principally Maoz, with branches throughout Amsterdam) and the
Chinese-Surinaams joints. The roti kip at these places can be out of
this world, and it'll fill you all day for ?4.
miguel
--
Hit the road! Photos from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Detailed airport information: http://airport.u.nu
May 21st 2007, 8:53 pm
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On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:43:03 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
... > On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz
... > <[email protected]>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
... > ...
... > ... No way!
... > ...
... > ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
... > ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
... >
... > Krokets?
...
... FEBO? That you can do for about a euro.
Sorry - you have been away from this ng for too long to understand the joke.
Martin, speak up!
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
... > On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz
... > <[email protected]>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
... > ...
... > ... No way!
... > ...
... > ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
... > ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
... >
... > Krokets?
...
... FEBO? That you can do for about a euro.
Sorry - you have been away from this ng for too long to understand the joke.
Martin, speak up!
May 21st 2007, 9:03 pm
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Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>
> No way!
I agree, but without the exclamation mark.
> I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
> cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
> interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
>
> I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
> in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
> that amount.
Not in my experience, but this is all about different tastes, and highly
subjective- and as with most discussions here, not much more than
posturing. That _said_, the kind of food you get in Maoz is fine- a bit
humdrum, but well-meaning. A cheap kebab at 3am in the UK is of similar
quality, price and as nutritious. You realise Maoz have branches in the
UK and Spain (ironically) as well as in NL- similar prices too?
A 10 euro meal in Spain is much better value than what you'd get in NL
or UK. I'll plump for the extra 5 euro everytime. It's a trivial amount
of money, and it's well worth it, in my opinion.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>
> No way!
I agree, but without the exclamation mark.
> I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
> cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
> interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
>
> I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
> in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
> that amount.
Not in my experience, but this is all about different tastes, and highly
subjective- and as with most discussions here, not much more than
posturing. That _said_, the kind of food you get in Maoz is fine- a bit
humdrum, but well-meaning. A cheap kebab at 3am in the UK is of similar
quality, price and as nutritious. You realise Maoz have branches in the
UK and Spain (ironically) as well as in NL- similar prices too?
A 10 euro meal in Spain is much better value than what you'd get in NL
or UK. I'll plump for the extra 5 euro everytime. It's a trivial amount
of money, and it's well worth it, in my opinion.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 21st 2007, 9:05 pm
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On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:39:00 +0200, Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> ...
> ... No way!
> ...
> ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
>
>Krokets?
LOL
--
Martin
>On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> ...
> ... No way!
> ...
> ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
>
>Krokets?
LOL
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 9:11 pm
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Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz
> > <[email protected]>
> > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> >
> > ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> > ...
> > ... No way!
> > ...
> > ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> > ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
> >
> > Krokets?
>
> FEBO? That you can do for about a euro.
>
> No, I was thinking of all the excellent Middle Eastern places
> (principally Maoz, with branches throughout Amsterdam)
It's the dullest place to eat in Soho, that's for sure.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> Magda <magda@eu> wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 May 2007 04:34:47 +0800, in rec.travel.europe, Miguel Cruz
> > <[email protected]>
> > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> >
> > ... Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > ... > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> > ...
> > ... No way!
> > ...
> > ... I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> > ... In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
> >
> > Krokets?
>
> FEBO? That you can do for about a euro.
>
> No, I was thinking of all the excellent Middle Eastern places
> (principally Maoz, with branches throughout Amsterdam)
It's the dullest place to eat in Soho, that's for sure.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 21st 2007, 9:38 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>
> No way!
>
> I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
> cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
> interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
Northern England and the Midlands are way cheaper than London.
> I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
> in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
> that amount.
If you can spend 30 euro a day on food you can eat fairly well in
Spain, even in the major cities. Parilladas (grilled meat
restaurants) give you loads of meat and are inexpensive, and tapas is
also a good reasonable choice. Then there's paella and bocadillos.
And the cafes are a lot cheaper than their French or Italian
counterparts.
But the cost of food in cheap or even midrange places doesn't differ
much between most major cities in Western Europe. The #1 factor that
makes a difference in cost of living is rent.
> Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>
> No way!
>
> I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
> cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
> interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
Northern England and the Midlands are way cheaper than London.
> I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
> in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
> that amount.
If you can spend 30 euro a day on food you can eat fairly well in
Spain, even in the major cities. Parilladas (grilled meat
restaurants) give you loads of meat and are inexpensive, and tapas is
also a good reasonable choice. Then there's paella and bocadillos.
And the cafes are a lot cheaper than their French or Italian
counterparts.
But the cost of food in cheap or even midrange places doesn't differ
much between most major cities in Western Europe. The #1 factor that
makes a difference in cost of living is rent.
May 21st 2007, 9:41 pm
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Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> >
> > No way!
> >
> > I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> > In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
> > cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
> > interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
>
>
> Northern England and the Midlands are way cheaper than London.
The rail fares and public transport isn't though!
> > I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
> > in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
> > that amount.
>
>
> If you can spend 30 euro a day on food you can eat fairly well in
> Spain, even in the major cities. Parilladas (grilled meat
> restaurants) give you loads of meat and are inexpensive, and tapas is
> also a good reasonable choice. Then there's paella and bocadillos.
> And the cafes are a lot cheaper than their French or Italian
> counterparts.
>
> But the cost of food in cheap or even midrange places doesn't differ
> much between most major cities in Western Europe.
> The #1 factor that
> makes a difference in cost of living is rent.
That's a good point.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
> >
> > No way!
> >
> > I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
> > In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
> > cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
> > interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
>
>
> Northern England and the Midlands are way cheaper than London.
The rail fares and public transport isn't though!
> > I might add - just to help me make friends here - that the 5 euro meal
> > in Amsterdam will beat the pants off anything you could get in Spain for
> > that amount.
>
>
> If you can spend 30 euro a day on food you can eat fairly well in
> Spain, even in the major cities. Parilladas (grilled meat
> restaurants) give you loads of meat and are inexpensive, and tapas is
> also a good reasonable choice. Then there's paella and bocadillos.
> And the cafes are a lot cheaper than their French or Italian
> counterparts.
>
> But the cost of food in cheap or even midrange places doesn't differ
> much between most major cities in Western Europe.
> The #1 factor that
> makes a difference in cost of living is rent.
That's a good point.
--
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http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
May 21st 2007, 10:06 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On Mon, 21 May 2007 22:41:17 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>> >
>> > No way!
>> >
>> > I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
>> > In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
>> > cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
>> > interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
>>
>>
>> Northern England and the Midlands are way cheaper than London.
>
>The rail fares and public transport isn't though!
Private transport is.
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chancellor (*)) wrote:
>Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>> >
>> > No way!
>> >
>> > I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
>> > In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro, and goods in shops are
>> > cheap as well. And don't even try comparing Dutch rail fares (urban or
>> > interurban) to those in the UK, it'll stop your heart.
>>
>>
>> Northern England and the Midlands are way cheaper than London.
>
>The rail fares and public transport isn't though!
Private transport is.
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May 21st 2007, 10:09 pm
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Re: cheapest country
On 21 May 2007 14:38:34 -0700, Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>>
>> No way!
>>
>> I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
>> In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
I can't even get a coffee and a McD for that in NL.
--
Martin
>On May 21, 4:34 pm, Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Great Britain is less expensive than Netherlands
>>
>> No way!
>>
>> I find the Netherlands to be about the cheapest country in rich Europe.
>> In Amsterdam you can easily eat for under 5 euro,
I can't even get a coffee and a McD for that in NL.
--
Martin
May 21st 2007, 10:11 pm
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Re: cheapest country
Make credence recognised that on Mon, 21 May 2007 20:07:15 +0100,
[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) has scripted:
>Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[]
>> You'll note that Switzerland and Germany dominate the list of best
>> European cities, and of those, only Geneva shows up in the Most
>> Expensive list. Enough said?
>
>No. It's quite entirely meaningless, as most of these things tend to be.
Aren't all comparisons quite entirely meaningless in Horneland?
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[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) has scripted:
>Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>[]
>> You'll note that Switzerland and Germany dominate the list of best
>> European cities, and of those, only Geneva shows up in the Most
>> Expensive list. Enough said?
>
>No. It's quite entirely meaningless, as most of these things tend to be.
Aren't all comparisons quite entirely meaningless in Horneland?
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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