Car to Buy in France?
#46
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ellie wrote in
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> Peter Hartikka wrote:
>>>The late French grandfather of a friend thought that the Peugeot was
the
>>>only car a "serious" Frenchman would drive.
>>
>>
>> My impression is that Peugeot is the best (or, if you prefer, the
>> "least bad") of the French marques. In fact, the 307 was voted
>> European Car of the Year in (I think) 2001, and the 206 has replaced
>> the VW Golf as the best-selling car in Europe.
>>
>> However, some of the new Renaults look pretty cool, now that the
>> cutting-edge design of the Avantime/Vel Satis is percolating down to
>> the Mégane level. That said, I haven't been too impressed with any of
>> the Renaults I've driven.
>
> So what's the cost of a Peugeot 307?
>
> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
> are a lot of late model cars available for sale. If it were up to
folks
> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that
were
> hardly drivable. We typically buy either a new or an almost new car
and
> then drive it until it is no longer able to pass road inspection tests.
> Where between these two extremes would France be? I expect it might
> very by region, of course.
No, no! Not the 307! The 206 Convertible... Then come over & take me for
a ride...
A used car is a good idea as it can take months to get your car from the
factory. In my case I'm waiting 5 months.
I remember when I contemplated the 206 (before it came in convertible)
there was a long wait as it was very well regarded and very well priced.
news:[email protected]:
> Peter Hartikka wrote:
>>>The late French grandfather of a friend thought that the Peugeot was
the
>>>only car a "serious" Frenchman would drive.
>>
>>
>> My impression is that Peugeot is the best (or, if you prefer, the
>> "least bad") of the French marques. In fact, the 307 was voted
>> European Car of the Year in (I think) 2001, and the 206 has replaced
>> the VW Golf as the best-selling car in Europe.
>>
>> However, some of the new Renaults look pretty cool, now that the
>> cutting-edge design of the Avantime/Vel Satis is percolating down to
>> the Mégane level. That said, I haven't been too impressed with any of
>> the Renaults I've driven.
>
> So what's the cost of a Peugeot 307?
>
> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
> are a lot of late model cars available for sale. If it were up to
folks
> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that
were
> hardly drivable. We typically buy either a new or an almost new car
and
> then drive it until it is no longer able to pass road inspection tests.
> Where between these two extremes would France be? I expect it might
> very by region, of course.
No, no! Not the 307! The 206 Convertible... Then come over & take me for
a ride...
A used car is a good idea as it can take months to get your car from the
factory. In my case I'm waiting 5 months.

I remember when I contemplated the 206 (before it came in convertible)
there was a long wait as it was very well regarded and very well priced.
#47
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"R J Carpenter" wrote in news:b3nlkc$4fi$1
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> "ellie" wrote in message
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>
>> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
>> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
>> are a lot of late model cars available for sale. If it were up to folks
>> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that were
>> hardly drivable. We typically buy either a new or an almost new car and
>> then drive it until it is no longer able to pass road inspection tests.
>> Where between these two extremes would France be? I expect it might
>> very by region, of course.
>
> What happens to those cars that Renault short-term leases (3 weeks to 6
> months) to foreign tourists?
They lease them again until they can be written off then then sell them.
But I always thought it a bad idea to buy a lease car as they are not
treated very well by those who "borrow" it.
@bob.news.rcn.net:
>
> "ellie" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
>> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
>> are a lot of late model cars available for sale. If it were up to folks
>> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that were
>> hardly drivable. We typically buy either a new or an almost new car and
>> then drive it until it is no longer able to pass road inspection tests.
>> Where between these two extremes would France be? I expect it might
>> very by region, of course.
>
> What happens to those cars that Renault short-term leases (3 weeks to 6
> months) to foreign tourists?
They lease them again until they can be written off then then sell them.
But I always thought it a bad idea to buy a lease car as they are not
treated very well by those who "borrow" it.
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"Emilia" wrote in message
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> "R J Carpenter" wrote in news:b3nlkc$4fi$1
> @bob.news.rcn.net:
> >
> > "ellie" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
> >> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
> >> are a lot of late model cars available for sale. If it were up to
folks
> >> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that
were
> >> hardly drivable. We typically buy either a new or an almost new car
and
> >> then drive it until it is no longer able to pass road inspection tests.
> >> Where between these two extremes would France be? I expect it might
> >> very by region, of course.
> >
> > What happens to those cars that Renault short-term leases (3 weeks to 6
> > months) to foreign tourists?
> They lease them again until they can be written off then then sell them.
> But I always thought it a bad idea to buy a lease car as they are not
> treated very well by those who "borrow" it.
The "leased" cars I'm referring to are not actually on lease. It is a
guaranteed repurchase plan. The cars are purported to be brand new, never
used. A number of people in the NG (not I) have used this scheme. I'm sure
they would have complained if the cars weren't as claimed.
Maybe the re-lease is to domestic customers.
Somewhere on the coach ride in from Orly, maybe near the Peripherique, I
once saw a Renault used-car agency. I thought it might have dealt in the
ex-lease cars I mentioned above.
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> "R J Carpenter" wrote in news:b3nlkc$4fi$1
> @bob.news.rcn.net:
> >
> > "ellie" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
> >> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
> >> are a lot of late model cars available for sale. If it were up to
folks
> >> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that
were
> >> hardly drivable. We typically buy either a new or an almost new car
and
> >> then drive it until it is no longer able to pass road inspection tests.
> >> Where between these two extremes would France be? I expect it might
> >> very by region, of course.
> >
> > What happens to those cars that Renault short-term leases (3 weeks to 6
> > months) to foreign tourists?
> They lease them again until they can be written off then then sell them.
> But I always thought it a bad idea to buy a lease car as they are not
> treated very well by those who "borrow" it.
The "leased" cars I'm referring to are not actually on lease. It is a
guaranteed repurchase plan. The cars are purported to be brand new, never
used. A number of people in the NG (not I) have used this scheme. I'm sure
they would have complained if the cars weren't as claimed.
Maybe the re-lease is to domestic customers.
Somewhere on the coach ride in from Orly, maybe near the Peripherique, I
once saw a Renault used-car agency. I thought it might have dealt in the
ex-lease cars I mentioned above.
#49
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> So what's the cost of a Peugeot 307?
Here in Belgium they cost around 17 to 20 thousand euros, depending on
the exact model. Not exactly an entry-level car.
> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
> are a lot of late model cars available for sale.
I don't know about France, but in Belgium it's fairly easy to find
relatively recent used cars, many of which are former company cars and
typically 2-3 years old at most.
> If it were up to folks
> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that were
> hardly drivable.
Not an option here because of the "controle technique" that every car
must undergo every 2 years (or is it every year? not sure). This means
that there are relatively few old clunkers on the roads. I believe
other European countries have similar regulations.
Here in Belgium they cost around 17 to 20 thousand euros, depending on
the exact model. Not exactly an entry-level car.
> Also, how about buying used cars? Here in the US, lots of people - for
> reasons unknown - buy a new car every two years or so, and thus there
> are a lot of late model cars available for sale.
I don't know about France, but in Belgium it's fairly easy to find
relatively recent used cars, many of which are former company cars and
typically 2-3 years old at most.
> If it were up to folks
> like my husband and me, the only thing available would be cars that were
> hardly drivable.
Not an option here because of the "controle technique" that every car
must undergo every 2 years (or is it every year? not sure). This means
that there are relatively few old clunkers on the roads. I believe
other European countries have similar regulations.




