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Belgium/Netherland tour from London

Old Feb 8th 2007, 1:39 am
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:30:53 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:10:42 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> Normally the head has gone and you eat it on slices of toast even in
>the
>> >> Netherlands. Where was it served the way you had it?
>> >> --
>> >
>> >Either my Dutch friends buy them whole in the market, bring them home and
>> >eat them like that, or we eat them like that when visiting a smokery
>direct.
>>
>> So which smokery are you visiting? There are several smokeries around
>here,
>> where they are eaten filleted on the spot in broodjes or bought filleted
>or
>> intact and taken home. Maybe it depends on which part of Holland the
>rokerij is
>> in.
>>
>> Every Dutch restaurant I have been in that has had smoked eel on the menu
>has
>> served smoked eel with toast.
>>
>> >I've only seen the 'little bits on toast' in UK (and never ordered it!).
>> >Maybe it's an oddity of my friends?
>>
>> Not necessarily I found a photo on Internet of people eating eels as you
>> describe.
>>
>> >But it's the only way to eat them.
>>
>> It obviously isn't. :-)
>>
>> >We probably have two or three eels each at a sitting, with 'raw' bread
>and
>> >very cold jonge jenever - a marvellous snack - hence the 'bits on toast'
>> >being useless as far as I'm concerned!
>>
>> Good luck! Especially with Dutch jenever which is industrial alcohol with
>> synthetic flavouring added.
>> --
>
>Well, in many years, I haven't eaten out in the Netherlands overmuch, with
>excellent home cooking always available.
>Can't remember any name for the main one we used to visit. It was -
>roughly - some miles inland from the Schiphol area, through a rural area but
>on a decent small road, and was quite isolated, facing some large lakes.

LOL Sounds like the one we buy from at Xmas. Are there two almost next door to
each other run by two brothers who fell out? Is there a tree on the other side
of a canal with about 50 herons waiting to be fed in it?

> Not
>a tourist spot - we were usually the only ones there. They had the live eels
>in tanks, smoked them, and served if anyone called. But it was not set up
>for serving - just a rough table/bench. I suppose they delivered most,
>wherever.

Not the same one. The one we uses has a shop at the front.

>One friend is a trained chef and reckoned these were the very best freshly
>smoked eels in the Netherlands.

They all are :-)

Over to Jeremy for comments on Dutch trained chefs :-)
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Martin
 
Old Feb 8th 2007, 1:55 am
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:35:28 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:04:13 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>_the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >_the_
>> >> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >> >[]
>> >> >> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in
>NL?
>> >> >> >I've never had it there...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different
>> >texture.
>> >> >> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
>> >> >
>> >> >It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but now
>> >> >that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on sushi-
>> >> >but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi, that's
>> >> >it. And it is great.
>> >>
>> >> So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal Dutch
>> >smoked
>> >> herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)
>> >
>> >That's unbelievable! Totally different!
>>
>> It can't be both totally different. Both are smoked in the same oak wood
>smoke.
>> --
>>
>And Islay and Speyside are made in much the same way! ......... :-))

and are totally different to ... jenever Thank God! :-)

>The fish are, of course, absolutely different in taste.

An eel isn't a fish is it? It is http://thefoody.com/basic/fishef.html

German smoked eel is different to Dutch. They use much bigger eels for a start.
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Martin
 
Old Feb 8th 2007, 2:12 am
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"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:35:28 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:04:13 GMT, "a.spencer3"
<[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >_the_
> >> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David
Horne,
> >> >_the_
> >> >> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >> >> >[]
> >> >> >> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that
in
> >NL?
> >> >> >> >I've never had it there...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a
different
> >> >texture.
> >> >> >> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but
now
> >> >> >that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on
sushi-
> >> >> >but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi,
that's
> >> >> >it. And it is great.
> >> >>
> >> >> So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal
Dutch
> >> >smoked
> >> >> herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)
> >> >
> >> >That's unbelievable! Totally different!
> >>
> >> It can't be both totally different. Both are smoked in the same oak
wood
> >smoke.
> >> --
> >>
> >And Islay and Speyside are made in much the same way! ......... :-))
>
> and are totally different to ... jenever Thank God! :-)
>
> >The fish are, of course, absolutely different in taste.
>
> An eel isn't a fish is it? It is http://thefoody.com/basic/fishef.html
>
> German smoked eel is different to Dutch. They use much bigger eels for a
start.
> --
>

I was told that, these days, many of the 'Dutch' eels come from East Anglia!

Surreyman
 
Old Feb 8th 2007, 2:26 am
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On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:12:18 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news[email protected].. .
>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:35:28 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:04:13 GMT, "a.spencer3"
><[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> >news:[email protected].. .
>> >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>> >_the_
>> >> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David
>Horne,
>> >> >_the_
>> >> >> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >> >> >[]
>> >> >> >> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that
>in
>> >NL?
>> >> >> >> >I've never had it there...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a
>different
>> >> >texture.
>> >> >> >> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but
>now
>> >> >> >that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on
>sushi-
>> >> >> >but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi,
>that's
>> >> >> >it. And it is great.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal
>Dutch
>> >> >smoked
>> >> >> herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)
>> >> >
>> >> >That's unbelievable! Totally different!
>> >>
>> >> It can't be both totally different. Both are smoked in the same oak
>wood
>> >smoke.
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >And Islay and Speyside are made in much the same way! ......... :-))
>>
>> and are totally different to ... jenever Thank God! :-)
>>
>> >The fish are, of course, absolutely different in taste.
>>
>> An eel isn't a fish is it? It is http://thefoody.com/basic/fishef.html
>>
>> German smoked eel is different to Dutch. They use much bigger eels for a
>start.

>I was told that, these days, many of the 'Dutch' eels come from East Anglia!

Quite possibly. I know there is a shortage, something to do with the French
catching very small eels by the billion. Don't they travel thousands of miles?

Most Porcini on sale in Italy comes from Norway.

50% of the cod on sale in NL are illegally caught.
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Martin
 
Old Feb 8th 2007, 4:20 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:


> I was told that, these days, many of the 'Dutch' eels come from East
> Anglia!

Same water, different side...
 
Old Feb 8th 2007, 4:23 am
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:
>
>
> > I was told that, these days, many of the 'Dutch' eels come from East
> > Anglia!
>
> Same water, different side...
>
As is Hawaii, of course.

Surreyman
 
Old Feb 9th 2007, 1:13 am
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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:

> *From:* "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:23:21 GMT
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I was told that, these days, many of the 'Dutch' eels come from East
> > > Anglia!
> >
> > Same water, different side...
> >
> As is Hawaii, of course.

True, FSVO 'same'!
 
Old Feb 9th 2007, 1:18 am
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-Martin
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:13:00 -0600, [email protected] wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:
>
>> *From:* "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
>> *Date:* Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:23:21 GMT
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > In article <[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] (a.spencer3) wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > I was told that, these days, many of the 'Dutch' eels come from East
>> > > Anglia!
>> >
>> > Same water, different side...
>> >
>> As is Hawaii, of course.
>
>True, FSVO 'same'!

Much of the water Dutch caught eels live in started life in the Rhine.
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Martin
 

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