On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:41:01 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:38:36 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>> >> <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
>> >>
>> >> Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
>> >> dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
>> >> sight, man.
>> >
>> >Outta sight, outta yer mind!
>>
>> but is it permanent short term memory loss?
>
>I forget.

So does DFM.
--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
> >
> >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
> >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
> >sight, man.
>
> DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.

Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
I've never had it there...

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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
>> >
>> >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
>> >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
>> >sight, man.
>>
>> DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.
>
>Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
>I've never had it there...

No idea what sushi smoked eel is like, but the"gerookte paling" in NL
is good - quite delicately flavoured, I found.

On one of the cruise ships I worked on, the chef (Slovak as it
happens) was very much into serving local specialities wherever the
ship went. (That's quite unusual - normally the supplies come in bulk
from wholesalers). Bunch of Brit passengers - they enjoyed their
smoked eel starters, but went beserk when they found out what it was
after they'd eaten it!

"If I'd known I'd never have eaten it!"

"But did you enjoy it?"

"Yes."

"So..................?"

Ach, tour-groups!



Keith, Bristol, UK

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:33:47 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
>>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>>> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
>>> >
>>> >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
>>> >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
>>> >sight, man.
>>>
>>> DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.
>>
>>Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
>>I've never had it there...
>
>No idea what sushi smoked eel is like, but the"gerookte paling" in NL
>is good - quite delicately flavoured, I found.

Most Dutch smoked food is good. They still use real oak smoke and not dye.

--

Martin

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>> ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
>> >
>> >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
>> >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
>> >sight, man.
>>
>> DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.
>
>Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
>I've never had it there...

It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different texture.
For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
--

Martin

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> > >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> > ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
> > >
> > >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
> > >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
> > >sight, man.
> >
> > DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.
>
> Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
> I've never had it there...
>

I've only had it in the Netherlands - and lots of it!
You snap the head off the eel, and peel its skin somewhat like a banana -
and then chomp along. None of these silly little portions on toast!
It's delightful stuff.

Surreyman

On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:56:04 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:1ht6det.tr67rr1odkkmyN%[email protected]. ..
>> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
>> > ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I was!
>> > >
>> > >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
>> > >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
>> > >sight, man.
>> >
>> > DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.
>>
>> Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
>> I've never had it there...
>>
>
>I've only had it in the Netherlands - and lots of it!
>You snap the head off the eel, and peel its skin somewhat like a banana -
>and then chomp along. None of these silly little portions on toast!
>It's delightful stuff.

Normally the head has gone and you eat it on slices of toast even in the
Netherlands. Where was it served the way you had it?
--

Martin

Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
[]
> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
> >I've never had it there...
>
> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different texture.
> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.

It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but now
that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on sushi-
but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi, that's
it. And it is great.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>[]
>> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
>> >I've never had it there...
>>
>> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different texture.
>> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
>
>It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but now
>that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on sushi-
>but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi, that's
>it. And it is great.

So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal Dutch smoked
herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >[]
> >> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
> >> >I've never had it there...
> >>
> >> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different
texture.
> >> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
> >
> >It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but now
> >that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on sushi-
> >but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi, that's
> >it. And it is great.
>
> So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal Dutch
smoked
> herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)

That's unbelievable! Totally different!

Surreyman

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:56:04 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:1ht6det.tr67rr1odkkmyN%[email protected]. ..
> >> Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:35:34 +0000, Keith Anderson
<[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:00:31 +0100, Deeply Filled Mortician
> >> > ><deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>Note that I enjoyed my cycling trip to Volendam, as stoned as I
was!
> >> > >
> >> > >Like, we went to this little shop by the waterfront, man, an' this
> >> > >dude told us about smokin' eels...............Volendam's like outta
> >> > >sight, man.
> >> >
> >> > DFM smoked eels. It explains a lot.
> >>
> >> Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
> >> I've never had it there...
> >>
> >
> >I've only had it in the Netherlands - and lots of it!
> >You snap the head off the eel, and peel its skin somewhat like a banana -
> >and then chomp along. None of these silly little portions on toast!
> >It's delightful stuff.
>
> Normally the head has gone and you eat it on slices of toast even in the
> Netherlands. Where was it served the way you had it?
> --

Either my Dutch friends buy them whole in the market, bring them home and
eat them like that, or we eat them like that when visiting a smokery direct.
I've only seen the 'little bits on toast' in UK (and never ordered it!).
Maybe it's an oddity of my friends?
But it's the only way to eat them.
We probably have two or three eels each at a sitting, with 'raw' bread and
very cold jonge jenever - a marvellous snack - hence the 'bits on toast'
being useless as far as I'm concerned!

Surreyman

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:04:13 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected].. .
>> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
>> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>
>> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>_the_
>> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>> >[]
>> >> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in NL?
>> >> >I've never had it there...
>> >>
>> >> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different
>texture.
>> >> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
>> >
>> >It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but now
>> >that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on sushi-
>> >but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi, that's
>> >it. And it is great.
>>
>> So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal Dutch
>smoked
>> herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)
>
>That's unbelievable! Totally different!

It can't be both totally different. Both are smoked in the same oak wood smoke.
--

Martin

On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:10:42 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]> wrote:


>> Normally the head has gone and you eat it on slices of toast even in the
>> Netherlands. Where was it served the way you had it?
>> --
>
>Either my Dutch friends buy them whole in the market, bring them home and
>eat them like that, or we eat them like that when visiting a smokery direct.

So which smokery are you visiting? There are several smokeries around here,
where they are eaten filleted on the spot in broodjes or bought filleted or
intact and taken home. Maybe it depends on which part of Holland the rokerij is
in.

Every Dutch restaurant I have been in that has had smoked eel on the menu has
served smoked eel with toast.

>I've only seen the 'little bits on toast' in UK (and never ordered it!).
>Maybe it's an oddity of my friends?

Not necessarily I found a photo on Internet of people eating eels as you
describe.

>But it's the only way to eat them.

It obviously isn't. :-)

>We probably have two or three eels each at a sitting, with 'raw' bread and
>very cold jonge jenever - a marvellous snack - hence the 'bits on toast'
>being useless as far as I'm concerned!

Good luck! Especially with Dutch jenever which is industrial alcohol with
synthetic flavouring added.
--

Martin

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:10:42 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>
> >> Normally the head has gone and you eat it on slices of toast even in
the
> >> Netherlands. Where was it served the way you had it?
> >> --
> >
> >Either my Dutch friends buy them whole in the market, bring them home and
> >eat them like that, or we eat them like that when visiting a smokery
direct.
>
> So which smokery are you visiting? There are several smokeries around
here,
> where they are eaten filleted on the spot in broodjes or bought filleted
or
> intact and taken home. Maybe it depends on which part of Holland the
rokerij is
> in.
>
> Every Dutch restaurant I have been in that has had smoked eel on the menu
has
> served smoked eel with toast.
>
> >I've only seen the 'little bits on toast' in UK (and never ordered it!).
> >Maybe it's an oddity of my friends?
>
> Not necessarily I found a photo on Internet of people eating eels as you
> describe.
>
> >But it's the only way to eat them.
>
> It obviously isn't. :-)
>
> >We probably have two or three eels each at a sitting, with 'raw' bread
and
> >very cold jonge jenever - a marvellous snack - hence the 'bits on toast'
> >being useless as far as I'm concerned!
>
> Good luck! Especially with Dutch jenever which is industrial alcohol with
> synthetic flavouring added.
> --

Well, in many years, I haven't eaten out in the Netherlands overmuch, with
excellent home cooking always available.
Can't remember any name for the main one we used to visit. It was -
roughly - some miles inland from the Schiphol area, through a rural area but
on a decent small road, and was quite isolated, facing some large lakes. Not
a tourist spot - we were usually the only ones there. They had the live eels
in tanks, smoked them, and served if anyone called. But it was not set up
for serving - just a rough table/bench. I suppose they delivered most,
wherever.
One friend is a trained chef and reckoned these were the very best freshly
smoked eels in the Netherlands.

"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:04:13 GMT, "a.spencer3" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected].. .
> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:13:34 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_
> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:19:21 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >_the_
> >> >> chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >> >[]
> >> >> >Smoked eel sushi is to die for. Is the taste anything like that in
NL?
> >> >> >I've never had it there...
> >> >>
> >> >> It tastes of smoked eel, a bit liked smoke herring but a different
> >texture.
> >> >> For some reason smoked haddock doesn't exist here.
> >> >
> >> >It doesn't taste to me like smoked herring, which I have had, but now
> >> >that I think about it, it's not been smoked when I've had it on sushi-
> >> >but grilled. <searches google> Yes, definitely grilled- Unagi, that's
> >> >it. And it is great.
> >>
> >> So in your opinion does normal Dutch smoked eel taste like normal Dutch
> >smoked
> >> herring. Forget about sushi bars :-)
> >
> >That's unbelievable! Totally different!
>
> It can't be both totally different. Both are smoked in the same oak wood
smoke.
> --
>
And Islay and Speyside are made in much the same way! ......... :-))
The fish are, of course, absolutely different in taste.

Surreyman