Batteries in Europe-- US sizes available?
May 5th 2002 | 11:50 am
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
>
> Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
> Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules. Those last
> ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're triangular,
> which means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
I can't believe that they use such tiny batteries. One joule equals one watt-second
equals one ampere at one volt for a second. Even an American AA NiCd contains about
0.5 ampere-hours (at 1.2 V) or 2160 joules.
Perhaps this apparent inconsistency can be explained by a difference in the size of
the second and joule in Europe.
Bob C.
>
> Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
> Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules. Those last
> ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're triangular,
> which means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
I can't believe that they use such tiny batteries. One joule equals one watt-second
equals one ampere at one volt for a second. Even an American AA NiCd contains about
0.5 ampere-hours (at 1.2 V) or 2160 joules.
Perhaps this apparent inconsistency can be explained by a difference in the size of
the second and joule in Europe.
Bob C.
May 5th 2002 | 5:21 pm
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They may not designate them quite the same way (I'm not sure), but if you're
replacing an existiong battery, take it along and I'm sure you'll find one to match
it. (You can easily find replacement batteries for watches and such, too.)
Doug Burke wrote:
>
> Yes. Our camera died in some really out of the way place in Italy and the local
> store had batteries. Doug Burke
>
> Stan wrote:
>
> > Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stan
replacing an existiong battery, take it along and I'm sure you'll find one to match
it. (You can easily find replacement batteries for watches and such, too.)
Doug Burke wrote:
>
> Yes. Our camera died in some really out of the way place in Italy and the local
> store had batteries. Doug Burke
>
> Stan wrote:
>
> > Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stan
May 5th 2002 | 5:50 pm
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Sounds like somebody's been reading too many Dave Barry columns...
On Sun, 05 May 2002 22:38:58 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) did write, or cause to
appear, hereinunder or as incorporated herein by reference:
>Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
>Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules. Those last
>ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're triangular, which
>means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
>
>A lot of things haven't been standardized yet, mainly due to the recalcitrance of
>backward-looking US regulators. For instance, ink colors are different, so European
>pens won't write on American paper and vice versa
>- which is always a big pain when signing the Pledge of Temporary Allegiance to the
> European Union on arrival at the airport. Also, the air is subtly different -
> bring a filter if you're not used to breathing air that's around 100 nanohectares
> of nitrogen per cubic centigram... or just plan to spend a lot of time hanging
> around McDonalds, where they pipe in the American-standard stuff.
>
>miguel
TESTTESTTEST- Remove the obvious to reply.
On Sun, 05 May 2002 22:38:58 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) did write, or cause to
appear, hereinunder or as incorporated herein by reference:
>Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
>Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules. Those last
>ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're triangular, which
>means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
>
>A lot of things haven't been standardized yet, mainly due to the recalcitrance of
>backward-looking US regulators. For instance, ink colors are different, so European
>pens won't write on American paper and vice versa
>- which is always a big pain when signing the Pledge of Temporary Allegiance to the
> European Union on arrival at the airport. Also, the air is subtly different -
> bring a filter if you're not used to breathing air that's around 100 nanohectares
> of nitrogen per cubic centigram... or just plan to spend a lot of time hanging
> around McDonalds, where they pipe in the American-standard stuff.
>
>miguel
TESTTESTTEST- Remove the obvious to reply.
May 5th 2002 | 8:50 pm
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"Stan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stan
Those are not American, those are universal. Watch voltage with rechargeables,
however, as that does vary, I discovered. There appear to be MORE kinds of batteries
at the typical display, not fewer.
news:[email protected]...
>
> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stan
Those are not American, those are universal. Watch voltage with rechargeables,
however, as that does vary, I discovered. There appear to be MORE kinds of batteries
at the typical display, not fewer.
May 5th 2002 | 11:20 pm
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On Sun, 5 May 2002, Stan wrote:
>
> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
No, our discmans are all still steam powered, thought you knew.
--
Met vriendelijke groeten/Best regards Jeroen Wijnands http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands
--
Familiarity breeds attempt
>
> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
No, our discmans are all still steam powered, thought you knew.
--
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May 6th 2002 | 12:21 am
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"Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)" <[email protected]> writes:
>They may not designate them quite the same way
There seem to be different systems of designating battery sizes. I have no idea where
each comes from, but I've made a table to "translate" them:
AAA UM-4 Micro LR03 AA UM-3 Mignon R6S A B C UM-2 Baby D UM-1 Mono E Block 6F-22
N UM-5 Lady
Regards
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feel the rain like an english summer
>They may not designate them quite the same way
There seem to be different systems of designating battery sizes. I have no idea where
each comes from, but I've made a table to "translate" them:
AAA UM-4 Micro LR03 AA UM-3 Mignon R6S A B C UM-2 Baby D UM-1 Mono E Block 6F-22
N UM-5 Lady
Regards
--
[email protected][email protected]+http://www.snafu.de/~wolfi/+IRC:wolfi
feel the rain like an english summer
May 6th 2002 | 2:20 am
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The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus hazardous
: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and, of course,
: you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to recycle
: them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and thus retailers
: may not accept them.......
Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat watch
batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
Cheers,
--
Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
tastireni
: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus hazardous
: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and, of course,
: you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to recycle
: them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and thus retailers
: may not accept them.......
Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat watch
batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
Cheers,
--
Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
tastireni
May 6th 2002 | 2:51 am
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On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
>The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
>: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus hazardous
>: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and, of course,
>: you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to recycle
>: them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and thus
>: retailers may not accept them.......
>
>Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
>modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat watch
>batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
>tastireni
>
Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in stores
all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year by the
council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
>The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
>: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus hazardous
>: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and, of course,
>: you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to recycle
>: them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and thus
>: retailers may not accept them.......
>
>Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
>modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat watch
>batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
>tastireni
>
Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in stores
all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year by the
council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
May 6th 2002 | 2:51 am
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"Jani Patokallio" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> : BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
hazardous
> : material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and,
of
> : course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to
> : recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and thus
> : retailers may not accept them.......
>
> Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
> modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
> watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
>
apart from the fact that I was only half serious (and making fun of the EU
environmental mess), I think you'll find that a lot of batteries have cadmium and the
like in them, and it isn't really very clever to chuck them in land fill. That why
the NL made batteries in my cupboard have a 'don't bin' logo on them, although I'll
admit that the FI labelled ones don't.
news:[email protected]...
> The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> : BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
hazardous
> : material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and,
of
> : course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to
> : recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and thus
> : retailers may not accept them.......
>
> Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
> modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
> watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
>
apart from the fact that I was only half serious (and making fun of the EU
environmental mess), I think you'll find that a lot of batteries have cadmium and the
like in them, and it isn't really very clever to chuck them in land fill. That why
the NL made batteries in my cupboard have a 'don't bin' logo on them, although I'll
admit that the FI labelled ones don't.
May 6th 2002 | 2:51 am
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<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
hazardous
> >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and,
of
> >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to
> >: recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and
> >: thus retailers may not accept them.......
> >
> >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
> >modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
> >watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >--
> >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
tastireni
> >
> Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in stores
> all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year by the
> council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
> On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
hazardous
> >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them, and,
of
> >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere to
> >: recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU recyc marks on them and
> >: thus retailers may not accept them.......
> >
> >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
> >modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
> >watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >--
> >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
tastireni
> >
> Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in stores
> all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year by the
> council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
May 6th 2002 | 2:51 am
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"The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
> hazardous
> > >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them,
and,
> of
> > >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere
> > >: to recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU
recyc
> > >: marks on them and thus retailers may not accept them.......
> > >
> > >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
> > >modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
> > >watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >--
> > >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
> tastireni
> > >
> > Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in
> > stores all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year
> > by the council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
>
(oops - hit it too quick)
I meant to say, how nice to live in civilised country that takes recycle seriously -
I assume you have heard about the UK 'fridge mountain - caused because nobody read
the regulations properly??
news:[email protected]...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
> hazardous
> > >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them,
and,
> of
> > >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere
> > >: to recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU
recyc
> > >: marks on them and thus retailers may not accept them.......
> > >
> > >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
> > >modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
> > >watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >--
> > >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
> tastireni
> > >
> > Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in
> > stores all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year
> > by the council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
>
(oops - hit it too quick)
I meant to say, how nice to live in civilised country that takes recycle seriously -
I assume you have heard about the UK 'fridge mountain - caused because nobody read
the regulations properly??
May 6th 2002 | 3:21 am
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I was about to comment on what a stupid thread this is, when I say your post. Made it
worthwhile.
"R J Carpenter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
> >
> > Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
> >
> > Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules.
Those
> > last ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're
> > triangular, which means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
>
> I can't believe that they use such tiny batteries. One joule equals one watt-second
> equals one ampere at one volt for a second. Even an American AA NiCd contains about
> 0.5 ampere-hours (at 1.2 V) or 2160 joules.
>
> Perhaps this apparent inconsistency can be explained by a difference in the size of
> the second and joule in Europe.
>
> Bob C.
worthwhile.
"R J Carpenter" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
> >
> > Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
> >
> > Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules.
Those
> > last ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're
> > triangular, which means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
>
> I can't believe that they use such tiny batteries. One joule equals one watt-second
> equals one ampere at one volt for a second. Even an American AA NiCd contains about
> 0.5 ampere-hours (at 1.2 V) or 2160 joules.
>
> Perhaps this apparent inconsistency can be explained by a difference in the size of
> the second and joule in Europe.
>
> Bob C.
May 6th 2002 | 3:51 am
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On Sun, 05 May 2002 22:38:58 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
>Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
>Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules. Those last
>ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're triangular, which
>means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
What's the voltage? 1.5 Euros?
A truly cool book: The World Is Already Yours Conscious living in the real world
www.alreadyyours.com (sample chapter, etc...)
>Stan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Are American type batteries size AA, AAA, and C available in Europe?
>
>Nope, only the metric sizes. They come in 1, 10, 100, and 1000 joules. Those last
>ones are doozies. Each one weighs two kilometers easy. And they're triangular, which
>means you can't even roll 'em down the carriageway.
What's the voltage? 1.5 Euros?
A truly cool book: The World Is Already Yours Conscious living in the real world
www.alreadyyours.com (sample chapter, etc...)
May 6th 2002 | 4:51 am
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On Mon, 6 May 2002 15:14:31 +0100, "The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> > On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
>> hazardous
>> > >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them,
>and,
>> of
>> > >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere
>> > >: to recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU
>recyc
>> > >: marks on them and thus retailers may not accept them.......
>> > >
>> > >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
>> > >modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
>> > >watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
>> > >
>> > >Cheers,
>> > >--
>> > >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
>> tastireni
>> > >
>> > Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in
>> > stores all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year
>> > by the council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
>>
>(oops - hit it too quick)
>
>I meant to say, how nice to live in civilised country that takes recycle seriously -
>I assume you have heard about the UK 'fridge mountain - caused because nobody read
>the regulations properly??
>
>
That's a new one on me. When I got a new fridge a few years ago I simply called the
council's oversize refuse collection dept. and they put me on to the fridge dept. who
came and took the thing away and put it to sleep humanely or whatever! Mind you when
we buy electrical products we have to pay a disposal/re-cycling levy up front. There
again if you choose an item with a high efficiency rating you send the sticker away
and get a cash sum back. --==++AJC++==--
>
>"The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> > On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
>> hazardous
>> > >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them,
>and,
>> of
>> > >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll need somewhere
>> > >: to recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU
>recyc
>> > >: marks on them and thus retailers may not accept them.......
>> > >
>> > >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly all
>> > >modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only specialty batteries like flat
>> > >watch batteries containing lithium are still considered hazardous.
>> > >
>> > >Cheers,
>> > >--
>> > >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
>> tastireni
>> > >
>> > Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in
>> > stores all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a year
>> > by the council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
>>
>(oops - hit it too quick)
>
>I meant to say, how nice to live in civilised country that takes recycle seriously -
>I assume you have heard about the UK 'fridge mountain - caused because nobody read
>the regulations properly??
>
>
That's a new one on me. When I got a new fridge a few years ago I simply called the
council's oversize refuse collection dept. and they put me on to the fridge dept. who
came and took the thing away and put it to sleep humanely or whatever! Mind you when
we buy electrical products we have to pay a disposal/re-cycling levy up front. There
again if you choose an item with a high efficiency rating you send the sticker away
and get a cash sum back. --==++AJC++==--
May 6th 2002 | 5:51 am
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<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 6 May 2002 15:14:31 +0100, "The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >> > On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
> >> hazardous
> >> > >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them,
> >and,
> >> of
> >> > >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll
need
> >> > >: somewhere to recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU
> >recyc
> >> > >: marks on them and thus retailers may not accept them.......
> >> > >
> >> > >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly
> >> > >all modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only
specialty
> >> > >batteries like flat watch batteries containing lithium are still considered
> >> > >hazardous.
> >> > >
> >> > >Cheers,
> >> > >--
> >> > >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
> >> tastireni
> >> > >
> >> > Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in
> >> > stores all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a
> >> > year by the council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
> >>
> >(oops - hit it too quick)
> >
> >I meant to say, how nice to live in civilised country that takes recycle seriously
> >- I assume you have heard about the UK 'fridge mountain -
caused
> >because nobody read the regulations properly??
> >
> >
>
> That's a new one on me. When I got a new fridge a few years ago I simply called the
> council's oversize refuse collection dept. and they put me on to the fridge dept.
> who came and took the thing away and put it to sleep humanely or whatever! Mind you
> when we buy electrical products we have to pay a disposal/re-cycling levy up front.
> There again if you choose an item with a high efficiency rating you send the
> sticker away and get a cash sum back. --==++AJC++==--
OK, quickly (because I'm following Dutch news right now - Fortuyn may not have been
very nice, but this is too extreme to say the least) Since Jan 1, 2002 all fridges
have to have both the liquid CFCs AND the foam it has soaked thru (?) disposed of
correctly. Right now, the UK has NO way to deal with the foam, and thus mountains of
used fridges are piling up, waiting either for a new plant to open, or someone to
send them to DE. Seems someone in government 'didn't notice' the foam requirement.
> On Mon, 6 May 2002 15:14:31 +0100, "The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >"The Oik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> >> > On 6 May 2002 13:42:57 GMT, Jani Patokallio <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >The Oik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >: BTW: used batteries are regarded as toxic waste in Europe and thus
> >> hazardous
> >> > >: material. In most countries, its against the law just to bin them,
> >and,
> >> of
> >> > >: course, you wont want to take haz goods on a flight, so you'll
need
> >> > >: somewhere to recycle them. Now, if they are US, they wont have EU
> >recyc
> >> > >: marks on them and thus retailers may not accept them.......
> >> > >
> >> > >Not so -- this used to be true for old lead-alkaline batteries, but nearly
> >> > >all modern-day batteries can be safely trashed. Only
specialty
> >> > >batteries like flat watch batteries containing lithium are still considered
> >> > >hazardous.
> >> > >
> >> > >Cheers,
> >> > >--
> >> > >Jani Patokallio shomreni k'ishon bat ayin, [email protected] betzel k'nafeycha
> >> tastireni
> >> > >
> >> > Well in NL we are expected to place all batteries in the containers found in
> >> > stores all over the place, or where I live they will be collected 4 times a
> >> > year by the council chemical collection van. --==++AJC++==--
> >>
> >(oops - hit it too quick)
> >
> >I meant to say, how nice to live in civilised country that takes recycle seriously
> >- I assume you have heard about the UK 'fridge mountain -
caused
> >because nobody read the regulations properly??
> >
> >
>
> That's a new one on me. When I got a new fridge a few years ago I simply called the
> council's oversize refuse collection dept. and they put me on to the fridge dept.
> who came and took the thing away and put it to sleep humanely or whatever! Mind you
> when we buy electrical products we have to pay a disposal/re-cycling levy up front.
> There again if you choose an item with a high efficiency rating you send the
> sticker away and get a cash sum back. --==++AJC++==--
OK, quickly (because I'm following Dutch news right now - Fortuyn may not have been
very nice, but this is too extreme to say the least) Since Jan 1, 2002 all fridges
have to have both the liquid CFCs AND the foam it has soaked thru (?) disposed of
correctly. Right now, the UK has NO way to deal with the foam, and thus mountains of
used fridges are piling up, waiting either for a new plant to open, or someone to
send them to DE. Seems someone in government 'didn't notice' the foam requirement.
