All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat, 24 August
Mar 13th 2005 | 1:37 pm
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All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat, 24 August
http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/
Accident Investigation Final Report
All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion
Air Transat
Airbus A330-243 marks C-GITS
Lajes, Azores, Portugal
24 August 2001
Final Investigation Report 22 / ACCID / 2001 18 October 2004
On August 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight TSC236, an Airbus 330-243
aircraft, was on a scheduled flight from Toronto Lester B Pearson
Airport, Ontario (CYYZ), Canada to Lisbon Airport (LPPT), Portugal with
13 crew and 293 passengers on board. At 05:33, the aircraft was at
4244N/2305W when the crew noted a fuel imbalance.
At 05:45, the crew initiated a diversion from the flight-planned route
for a landing at the Lajes Airport (LPLA), Terceira Island in the
Azores. At 05:48, the crew advised Santa Maria Oceanic Control that the
flight was diverting due to a fuel shortage. At 06:13, the crew
notified air traffic control that the right engine (Rolls-Royce RB211
Trent 772B) had flamed out. At 06:26, when the aircraft was about 65
nautical miles from the Lajes airport and at an altitude of about FL
345, the crew reported that the left engine had also flamed out and that
a ditching at sea was possible.
Assisted by radar vectors from Lajes air traffic control, the crew
carried out an engines-out, visual approach, at night and in good visual
weather conditions. The aircraft landed on runway 33 at the Lajes
Airport at 06:45. After the aircraft came to a stop, small fires
started in the area of the left main-gear wheels, but these fires were
immediately extinguished by the crash rescue response vehicles that were
in position for the landing.
The Captain ordered an emergency evacuation; 16 passengers and 2
cabin-crew members received injuries during the emergency evacuation.
The aircraft suffered structural damage to the fuselage and to the main
landing gear.
See the URL for the rest.
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Accident Investigation Final Report
All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion
Air Transat
Airbus A330-243 marks C-GITS
Lajes, Azores, Portugal
24 August 2001
Final Investigation Report 22 / ACCID / 2001 18 October 2004
On August 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight TSC236, an Airbus 330-243
aircraft, was on a scheduled flight from Toronto Lester B Pearson
Airport, Ontario (CYYZ), Canada to Lisbon Airport (LPPT), Portugal with
13 crew and 293 passengers on board. At 05:33, the aircraft was at
4244N/2305W when the crew noted a fuel imbalance.
At 05:45, the crew initiated a diversion from the flight-planned route
for a landing at the Lajes Airport (LPLA), Terceira Island in the
Azores. At 05:48, the crew advised Santa Maria Oceanic Control that the
flight was diverting due to a fuel shortage. At 06:13, the crew
notified air traffic control that the right engine (Rolls-Royce RB211
Trent 772B) had flamed out. At 06:26, when the aircraft was about 65
nautical miles from the Lajes airport and at an altitude of about FL
345, the crew reported that the left engine had also flamed out and that
a ditching at sea was possible.
Assisted by radar vectors from Lajes air traffic control, the crew
carried out an engines-out, visual approach, at night and in good visual
weather conditions. The aircraft landed on runway 33 at the Lajes
Airport at 06:45. After the aircraft came to a stop, small fires
started in the area of the left main-gear wheels, but these fires were
immediately extinguished by the crash rescue response vehicles that were
in position for the landing.
The Captain ordered an emergency evacuation; 16 passengers and 2
cabin-crew members received injuries during the emergency evacuation.
The aircraft suffered structural damage to the fuselage and to the main
landing gear.
See the URL for the rest.
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Mar 14th 2005 | 12:50 am
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Re: All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat,
Wow... thanks for the scoop...
You realize that this incident has already been reported on extensively
and that there has even been a documentary made about it (shown on the
program "Seconds From Disaster" or something like that.
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
> http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/
>
> Accident Investigation Final Report
> All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion
> Air Transat
> Airbus A330-243 marks C-GITS
> Lajes, Azores, Portugal
> 24 August 2001
> Final Investigation Report 22 / ACCID / 2001 18 October 2004
>
> On August 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight TSC236, an Airbus 330-243
> aircraft, was on a scheduled flight from Toronto Lester B Pearson
> Airport, Ontario (CYYZ), Canada to Lisbon Airport (LPPT), Portugal with
> 13 crew and 293 passengers on board. At 05:33, the aircraft was at
> 4244N/2305W when the crew noted a fuel imbalance.
>
> At 05:45, the crew initiated a diversion from the flight-planned route
> for a landing at the Lajes Airport (LPLA), Terceira Island in the
> Azores. At 05:48, the crew advised Santa Maria Oceanic Control that the
> flight was diverting due to a fuel shortage. At 06:13, the crew
> notified air traffic control that the right engine (Rolls-Royce RB211
> Trent 772B) had flamed out. At 06:26, when the aircraft was about 65
> nautical miles from the Lajes airport and at an altitude of about FL
> 345, the crew reported that the left engine had also flamed out and that
> a ditching at sea was possible.
>
> Assisted by radar vectors from Lajes air traffic control, the crew
> carried out an engines-out, visual approach, at night and in good visual
> weather conditions. The aircraft landed on runway 33 at the Lajes
> Airport at 06:45. After the aircraft came to a stop, small fires
> started in the area of the left main-gear wheels, but these fires were
> immediately extinguished by the crash rescue response vehicles that were
> in position for the landing.
>
> The Captain ordered an emergency evacuation; 16 passengers and 2
> cabin-crew members received injuries during the emergency evacuation.
>
> The aircraft suffered structural damage to the fuselage and to the main
> landing gear.
>
> See the URL for the rest.
>
You realize that this incident has already been reported on extensively
and that there has even been a documentary made about it (shown on the
program "Seconds From Disaster" or something like that.
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
> http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/
>
> Accident Investigation Final Report
> All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion
> Air Transat
> Airbus A330-243 marks C-GITS
> Lajes, Azores, Portugal
> 24 August 2001
> Final Investigation Report 22 / ACCID / 2001 18 October 2004
>
> On August 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight TSC236, an Airbus 330-243
> aircraft, was on a scheduled flight from Toronto Lester B Pearson
> Airport, Ontario (CYYZ), Canada to Lisbon Airport (LPPT), Portugal with
> 13 crew and 293 passengers on board. At 05:33, the aircraft was at
> 4244N/2305W when the crew noted a fuel imbalance.
>
> At 05:45, the crew initiated a diversion from the flight-planned route
> for a landing at the Lajes Airport (LPLA), Terceira Island in the
> Azores. At 05:48, the crew advised Santa Maria Oceanic Control that the
> flight was diverting due to a fuel shortage. At 06:13, the crew
> notified air traffic control that the right engine (Rolls-Royce RB211
> Trent 772B) had flamed out. At 06:26, when the aircraft was about 65
> nautical miles from the Lajes airport and at an altitude of about FL
> 345, the crew reported that the left engine had also flamed out and that
> a ditching at sea was possible.
>
> Assisted by radar vectors from Lajes air traffic control, the crew
> carried out an engines-out, visual approach, at night and in good visual
> weather conditions. The aircraft landed on runway 33 at the Lajes
> Airport at 06:45. After the aircraft came to a stop, small fires
> started in the area of the left main-gear wheels, but these fires were
> immediately extinguished by the crash rescue response vehicles that were
> in position for the landing.
>
> The Captain ordered an emergency evacuation; 16 passengers and 2
> cabin-crew members received injuries during the emergency evacuation.
>
> The aircraft suffered structural damage to the fuselage and to the main
> landing gear.
>
> See the URL for the rest.
>
Mar 14th 2005 | 2:52 am
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Re: All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat,
Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago.
Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can
land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll...
Roman
Dave S wrote:
> Wow... thanks for the scoop...
>
> You realize that this incident has already been reported on extensively
> and that there has even been a documentary made about it (shown on the
> program "Seconds From Disaster" or something like that.
>
> Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
>> http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/
Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can
land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll...
Roman
Dave S wrote:
> Wow... thanks for the scoop...
>
> You realize that this incident has already been reported on extensively
> and that there has even been a documentary made about it (shown on the
> program "Seconds From Disaster" or something like that.
>
> Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
>> http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/
Mar 14th 2005 | 5:05 am
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Re: All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat, 24 August 2001
I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio.
The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their
landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high.
-Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor)
Roman Svihorik wrote:
> Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
ago.
> Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane
can
> land without engines and total structural damages and passenger
toll...
> Roman
The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their
landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high.
-Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor)
Roman Svihorik wrote:
> Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
ago.
> Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane
can
> land without engines and total structural damages and passenger
toll...
> Roman
Mar 14th 2005 | 12:53 pm
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"Robert M. Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] oups.com...
> I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio.
> The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their
> landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high.
> -Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor)
Also gotta have one of these:
http://www.hamiltonsundstrandcorp.co..._PRD30,00.html
> I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio.
> The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their
> landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high.
> -Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor)
Also gotta have one of these:
http://www.hamiltonsundstrandcorp.co..._PRD30,00.html
Mar 14th 2005 | 1:59 pm
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Re: All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat, 24 August 2001
"No Spam" <[email protected]>
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> "Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
>> ago. Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a
>> plane can land without engines and total structural damages and
>> passenger toll... Roman
>
> Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
> engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
> a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
>
> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
Not including the Osprey, of course, where one of the possibilities put
forward in how to deal with an engine failure was to point a gun at the
pilot's head that would go off in such an eventuality so he wouldn't have
to worry about it.
Bertie
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> "Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
>> ago. Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a
>> plane can land without engines and total structural damages and
>> passenger toll... Roman
>
> Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
> engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
> a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
>
> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
Not including the Osprey, of course, where one of the possibilities put
forward in how to deal with an engine failure was to point a gun at the
pilot's head that would go off in such an eventuality so he wouldn't have
to worry about it.
Bertie
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Mar 14th 2005 | 2:03 pm
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Re: All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion - Air Transat, 24 August 2001
"Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago.
> Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can
> land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll...
> Roman
Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
news:[email protected]...
> Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago.
> Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can
> land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll...
> Roman
Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
Mar 14th 2005 | 2:23 pm
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No Spam wrote:
> "Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
ago.
> > Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a
plane can
> > land without engines and total structural damages and passenger
toll...
> > Roman
> Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
> engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
> a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
As attested to by the 'gimli glider'. Hope 'gimli' is correct, it has
been awhile.
Harry K
> "Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
ago.
> > Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a
plane can
> > land without engines and total structural damages and passenger
toll...
> > Roman
> Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
> engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
> a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
As attested to by the 'gimli glider'. Hope 'gimli' is correct, it has
been awhile.
Harry K
Mar 14th 2005 | 2:40 pm
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"harry k" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> No Spam wrote:
> > "Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
> ago.
> > > Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a
> plane can
> > > land without engines and total structural damages and passenger
> toll...
> > > Roman
> >
> > Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
> > engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
> > a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
> >
> > All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> > a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
> As attested to by the 'gimli glider'. Hope 'gimli' is correct, it has
> been awhile.
> Harry K
Rumor has it U 2's have glided "Several Hundred Miles" & made successful
dead stick landings.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type
Posting From ADA
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> No Spam wrote:
> > "Roman Svihorik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so
> ago.
> > > Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a
> plane can
> > > land without engines and total structural damages and passenger
> toll...
> > > Roman
> >
> > Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without
> > engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow
> > a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway.
> >
> > All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> > a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
> As attested to by the 'gimli glider'. Hope 'gimli' is correct, it has
> been awhile.
> Harry K
Rumor has it U 2's have glided "Several Hundred Miles" & made successful
dead stick landings.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type
Posting From ADA
Mar 14th 2005 | 3:08 pm
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"No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:pgsZd.4290
> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
Perhaps now they do. If you read the detailed accounts of the "Gimli Glider"
episode when an Air Canada 767 lost both engines to fuel starvation, the
pilot clearly states that their training did *not* account for the
possibility. Understandably so- MTBF on those engines is in the 100s of
thousands of hours and airline procedures make fuel exhaustion unimaginable.
And unsinkable ships can't hit icebergs either.
I'm beginning to wonder a little about Air Transat. I just read about one of
their A310 rudders snapping off. The plane landed back in Varadero ok. So it
seems their pilots are trained OK but perhaps their maintenance & ops
departments need some work.
-cwk.
> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
Perhaps now they do. If you read the detailed accounts of the "Gimli Glider"
episode when an Air Canada 767 lost both engines to fuel starvation, the
pilot clearly states that their training did *not* account for the
possibility. Understandably so- MTBF on those engines is in the 100s of
thousands of hours and airline procedures make fuel exhaustion unimaginable.
And unsinkable ships can't hit icebergs either.
I'm beginning to wonder a little about Air Transat. I just read about one of
their A310 rudders snapping off. The plane landed back in Varadero ok. So it
seems their pilots are trained OK but perhaps their maintenance & ops
departments need some work.
-cwk.
Mar 14th 2005 | 3:12 pm
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"Ralph Nesbitt" <[email protected]> wrote...
> Rumor has it U 2's have glided "Several Hundred Miles" & made
> successful dead stick landings.
So have space shuttles (except for one), but then that's a little d'ferent.
> Rumor has it U 2's have glided "Several Hundred Miles" & made
> successful dead stick landings.
So have space shuttles (except for one), but then that's a little d'ferent.
Mar 14th 2005 | 4:00 pm
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"Colin W Kingsbury" <[email protected]>
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> "No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:pgsZd.4290
>> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
>> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
>
> Perhaps now they do. If you read the detailed accounts of the "Gimli
> Glider" episode when an Air Canada 767 lost both engines to fuel
> starvation, the pilot clearly states that their training did *not*
> account for the possibility.
Well I had done deadstick landings in the sim looong before that happened.
And that wasn't the first deadstick jet either.
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> "No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:pgsZd.4290
>> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
>> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
>
> Perhaps now they do. If you read the detailed accounts of the "Gimli
> Glider" episode when an Air Canada 767 lost both engines to fuel
> starvation, the pilot clearly states that their training did *not*
> account for the possibility.
Well I had done deadstick landings in the sim looong before that happened.
And that wasn't the first deadstick jet either.
Bertie
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Mar 14th 2005 | 4:49 pm
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"Bertie the Bunyip" <XZXZ@XZXZ.,XZXZX> wrote in message
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> "Colin W Kingsbury" <[email protected]>
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> >
> > "No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:pgsZd.4290
> >>
> >> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> >> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps now they do. If you read the detailed accounts of the "Gimli
> > Glider" episode when an Air Canada 767 lost both engines to fuel
> > starvation, the pilot clearly states that their training did *not*
> > account for the possibility.
> Well I had done deadstick landings in the sim looong before that happened.
> And that wasn't the first deadstick jet either.
> Bertie
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I think all the commercial passenger jets have a better glide angle than the
normal glide slope of landing. DC-10 lost all engines off Florida a few
years ago, and landed safely. Mechanic had left the o-rings off the oil
plugs for all the engines.
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> > "No Spam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:pgsZd.4290
> >>
> >> All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as
> >> a routine part of training, in any type of airplane.
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps now they do. If you read the detailed accounts of the "Gimli
> > Glider" episode when an Air Canada 767 lost both engines to fuel
> > starvation, the pilot clearly states that their training did *not*
> > account for the possibility.
> Well I had done deadstick landings in the sim looong before that happened.
> And that wasn't the first deadstick jet either.
> Bertie
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I think all the commercial passenger jets have a better glide angle than the
normal glide slope of landing. DC-10 lost all engines off Florida a few
years ago, and landed safely. Mechanic had left the o-rings off the oil
plugs for all the engines.
Mar 14th 2005 | 7:13 pm
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Roman,
> I just could not believe such a plane can
> land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll...
fell for the "dropping out of the sky like a stone" rethoric perpetrated
by the media?
--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
> I just could not believe such a plane can
> land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll...
fell for the "dropping out of the sky like a stone" rethoric perpetrated
by the media?
--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
Mar 14th 2005 | 10:23 pm
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Calif Bill wrote:
>
> I think all the commercial passenger jets have a better glide
> angle than the normal glide slope of landing.
The normal glide slope for an ILS landing is around 2.5 to 3.0 degrees.
A 747 is supposed to have an optimum glide slope of about 3 degrees,
(19:1) making it at the top end of the ILS glide slope. That is the
optimum, but it will likely be steeper in practice. As an example, the
actual glide slope of the Gimli Glider was about 5 degrees. (11:1)
> DC-10 lost all engines off Florida a few years ago, and landed
> safely. Mechanic had left the o-rings off the oil plugs for
> all the engines.
It was an Eastern Airlines L-1011, and it landed with one engine
operating. (It had been shut down earlier as a precaution, but
restarted.) The o-rings were left off the engine's chip detectors.
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/1984/AAR8404.htm
>
> I think all the commercial passenger jets have a better glide
> angle than the normal glide slope of landing.
The normal glide slope for an ILS landing is around 2.5 to 3.0 degrees.
A 747 is supposed to have an optimum glide slope of about 3 degrees,
(19:1) making it at the top end of the ILS glide slope. That is the
optimum, but it will likely be steeper in practice. As an example, the
actual glide slope of the Gimli Glider was about 5 degrees. (11:1)
> DC-10 lost all engines off Florida a few years ago, and landed
> safely. Mechanic had left the o-rings off the oil plugs for
> all the engines.
It was an Eastern Airlines L-1011, and it landed with one engine
operating. (It had been shut down earlier as a precaution, but
restarted.) The o-rings were left off the engine's chip detectors.
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/1984/AAR8404.htm
