_:Re: Mean streets in Europe?
Dec 21st 2004, 5:44 pm
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Alan \(in Brussels\) wrote:
>Like some other readers of r.t.e., I used to be puzzled by messages
from
>posters in N. America requesting information about walking in
European
>cities. But since reading US Press coverage of the Surface
Transportation
>Policy Project's recent report: "Mean Streets 2004" (on-line at URL:
>http://www.transact.org/report.asp?id=235 )
From the report:
"In fact, walking is by far the most dangerous mode of travel per
mile."
Ok, that makes sense. And per time-unit?
Btw, here is the real shocker:
"The portion of people who walk to work dropped by 25 percent between
1990 and 2000, at the same time that the portion of the population who
are obese or
overweight has jumped more than 70 percent."
Bjorn
>Like some other readers of r.t.e., I used to be puzzled by messages
from
>posters in N. America requesting information about walking in
European
>cities. But since reading US Press coverage of the Surface
Transportation
>Policy Project's recent report: "Mean Streets 2004" (on-line at URL:
>http://www.transact.org/report.asp?id=235 )
From the report:
"In fact, walking is by far the most dangerous mode of travel per
mile."
Ok, that makes sense. And per time-unit?
Btw, here is the real shocker:
"The portion of people who walk to work dropped by 25 percent between
1990 and 2000, at the same time that the portion of the population who
are obese or
overweight has jumped more than 70 percent."
Bjorn
Dec 22nd 2004, 2:09 am
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Bjorn Olsson wrote:
>
> Btw, here is the real shocker:
>
> "The portion of people who walk to work dropped by 25 percent between
> 1990 and 2000,
That's probably true - however, they are not allowing for
the fact that, in America, many people live a drive of half
an hour to an hour from their place of employment. (Walking
to work might be POSSIBLE - if they walk exceedingly fast
- but arriving in time to get any work done before turning
around to walk home again seems highly unlikely!)
> at the same time that the portion of the population who
> are obese or
> overweight has jumped more than 70 percent."
Although it's true walking is among the best exercises, I
think our American diet plays a part, too - especially for
people who eat in restaurants a lot. Not only do
restaurants here serve much larger portions than those in
Europe, but the meals are often filled with "hidden"
calories. (And the diet of choice among American teen-agers
doesn't bear thinking about - apparently there is no such
thing as the "family" meal any more and eating what's put
before them, as we were required to do in my youth, seldom
happens.)
>
> Bjorn
>
> Btw, here is the real shocker:
>
> "The portion of people who walk to work dropped by 25 percent between
> 1990 and 2000,
That's probably true - however, they are not allowing for
the fact that, in America, many people live a drive of half
an hour to an hour from their place of employment. (Walking
to work might be POSSIBLE - if they walk exceedingly fast
- but arriving in time to get any work done before turning
around to walk home again seems highly unlikely!)
> at the same time that the portion of the population who
> are obese or
> overweight has jumped more than 70 percent."
Although it's true walking is among the best exercises, I
think our American diet plays a part, too - especially for
people who eat in restaurants a lot. Not only do
restaurants here serve much larger portions than those in
Europe, but the meals are often filled with "hidden"
calories. (And the diet of choice among American teen-agers
doesn't bear thinking about - apparently there is no such
thing as the "family" meal any more and eating what's put
before them, as we were required to do in my youth, seldom
happens.)
>
> Bjorn
Dec 22nd 2004, 2:09 pm
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Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>That's probably true - however, they are not allowing for
>the fact that, in America, many people live a drive of half
>an hour to an hour from their place of employment.
That applies to most Londoners too, although 90% will be using
trains and buses, however walking is often the final part of a
journey or a shorter journey, I live in the suburbs and walk to
the shops, about a mile. I suspect an increasing number drive
such short journeys.
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>That's probably true - however, they are not allowing for
>the fact that, in America, many people live a drive of half
>an hour to an hour from their place of employment.
That applies to most Londoners too, although 90% will be using
trains and buses, however walking is often the final part of a
journey or a shorter journey, I live in the suburbs and walk to
the shops, about a mile. I suspect an increasing number drive
such short journeys.
--
Mike Reid
Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Eat-walk-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Dec 22nd 2004, 4:03 pm
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The Reids wrote:
> Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>
>
>>That's probably true - however, they are not allowing for
>>the fact that, in America, many people live a drive of half
>>an hour to an hour from their place of employment.
>
>
> That applies to most Londoners too, although 90% will be using
> trains and buses, however walking is often the final part of a
> journey or a shorter journey, I live in the suburbs and walk to
> the shops, about a mile. I suspect an increasing number drive
> such short journeys.
Oh well, I live in Los Angeles, where people get in their
cars to drive to the corner market, even though it may mean
a longer walk from the parking lot than it would be from
their home! (However, L.A. is an extreme case - not all of
the U.S. is quite that bad.)
> Following up to EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
>
>
>>That's probably true - however, they are not allowing for
>>the fact that, in America, many people live a drive of half
>>an hour to an hour from their place of employment.
>
>
> That applies to most Londoners too, although 90% will be using
> trains and buses, however walking is often the final part of a
> journey or a shorter journey, I live in the suburbs and walk to
> the shops, about a mile. I suspect an increasing number drive
> such short journeys.
Oh well, I live in Los Angeles, where people get in their
cars to drive to the corner market, even though it may mean
a longer walk from the parking lot than it would be from
their home! (However, L.A. is an extreme case - not all of
the U.S. is quite that bad.)
Dec 23rd 2004, 11:32 pm
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Oh well, I live in Los Angeles, where people get in their
> cars to drive to the corner market, even though it may mean
> a longer walk from the parking lot than it would be from
> their home! (However, L.A. is an extreme case - not all of
> the U.S. is quite that bad.)
My parents lived in Michigan. Their neighbour two houses away used to get
into her car and drive to visit my mother!
Lana
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> Oh well, I live in Los Angeles, where people get in their
> cars to drive to the corner market, even though it may mean
> a longer walk from the parking lot than it would be from
> their home! (However, L.A. is an extreme case - not all of
> the U.S. is quite that bad.)
My parents lived in Michigan. Their neighbour two houses away used to get
into her car and drive to visit my mother!
Lana
Dec 24th 2004, 12:56 pm
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Don't they sell bicycles in America?
Hang on the world's greatest cyclist is American - Lance Armstrong. Nah they
must sell bicycles!
The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
road and on the continent and most of the world that is very, very
dangerous, as they drive on the right hand side of the road. I know I
escaped death by a fraction of a second in Spain this year for that very
reason - didn't stop shaking for 5 minutes - it was that close.
Hang on the world's greatest cyclist is American - Lance Armstrong. Nah they
must sell bicycles!
The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
road and on the continent and most of the world that is very, very
dangerous, as they drive on the right hand side of the road. I know I
escaped death by a fraction of a second in Spain this year for that very
reason - didn't stop shaking for 5 minutes - it was that close.
Dec 24th 2004, 3:51 pm
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On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:56:30 -0000, "citizen142"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
>South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
>road and on the continent and most of the world that is very, very
>dangerous, as they drive on the right hand side of the road. I know I
>escaped death by a fraction of a second in Spain this year for that very
>reason - didn't stop shaking for 5 minutes - it was that close.
I can still remember on a trip to Grand Bahama in the mid 60s being
nearly run down by a cab when I stepped off a curb after looking left.
Those lessons tend to stay with you.
IIRC, Winston Churchill was a famous victim in New York after the war.
I was impressed with all the markings on London crosswalks reminding
pedestrians to look right, no doubt saving countless accidents.
Gordon
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
>South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
>road and on the continent and most of the world that is very, very
>dangerous, as they drive on the right hand side of the road. I know I
>escaped death by a fraction of a second in Spain this year for that very
>reason - didn't stop shaking for 5 minutes - it was that close.
I can still remember on a trip to Grand Bahama in the mid 60s being
nearly run down by a cab when I stepped off a curb after looking left.
Those lessons tend to stay with you.
IIRC, Winston Churchill was a famous victim in New York after the war.
I was impressed with all the markings on London crosswalks reminding
pedestrians to look right, no doubt saving countless accidents.
Gordon
Dec 24th 2004, 5:02 pm
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"citizen142" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Don't they sell bicycles in America?
I'm speaking for Pittsburgh --- but I'm betting the majority of similar
sized cities in the US are the same....
Well they do, but outside of a relatively small special interest group,
bikes just aren't real popular. They aren't popular because they aren't
practical. The distances involved in surbuban communities simply wouldn't
work. The hills of Pittsburgh are notoriously steep. Very few roads have
bike lanes, motorists are generally not courteous to bikers, etc.
There are some exceptions, namely downtown(which is a very small area,
relatively speaking to the metro area) and Oakland(home of University of
Pittsburgh & Carnegie Mellon University). These have high student
populations, the distances are much smaller, and these are generally
"walkable" places --- so bikes work here too. You'll often see messenger
services that do same-day delivery of documents from one office building to
the next, or to/from Oakland.
Most of the people in the suburbs that I know who have bikes either ride
them in our parks, or around the block. We also have "bike trails" in some
communities where you can safely bike. Most people here wouldn't consider
bikes a form of transportation as much as form of exercise.
Walking finds itself in generally the same boat. Whenever the nearest
"something" is miles away, not many people are willing to walk. You can say
this is a bad thing, but in today's busy world, walking would simply take
way too much time.
Just to tie this into Europe, I find that whenever I vacation there, I end
up walking 3000 times more than I normally do. I actually "prepare" by
using the treadmill etc --- otherwise I find my legs are a little sore after
a full day of sight-seeing. Although I'm being facetious here, it's no
wonder those damn europeans are all thin --- looking at how much they walk
on foot, how fast they walk, etc.
Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
out-of-breath, sweaty, etc? And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You
want to walk 35 blocks after eating a meal? Obviously, the locals in NYC do
this on a regular basis --- those of us not accustomed to that amount of
walking is a different story.
> The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
> South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
> road
I'm not picking on you citizen142, but when I was 5? years old, my parents
taught me to look BOTH ways before crossing the street. Call me immature,
but I still look both ways before I cross the street, no matter where I'm at
in the world.
I will say that I'm happy as well that London has printed the "Look Right"
on the roads. It's definitely a good reminder.
Keith
Pittsburgh
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> Don't they sell bicycles in America?
I'm speaking for Pittsburgh --- but I'm betting the majority of similar
sized cities in the US are the same....
Well they do, but outside of a relatively small special interest group,
bikes just aren't real popular. They aren't popular because they aren't
practical. The distances involved in surbuban communities simply wouldn't
work. The hills of Pittsburgh are notoriously steep. Very few roads have
bike lanes, motorists are generally not courteous to bikers, etc.
There are some exceptions, namely downtown(which is a very small area,
relatively speaking to the metro area) and Oakland(home of University of
Pittsburgh & Carnegie Mellon University). These have high student
populations, the distances are much smaller, and these are generally
"walkable" places --- so bikes work here too. You'll often see messenger
services that do same-day delivery of documents from one office building to
the next, or to/from Oakland.
Most of the people in the suburbs that I know who have bikes either ride
them in our parks, or around the block. We also have "bike trails" in some
communities where you can safely bike. Most people here wouldn't consider
bikes a form of transportation as much as form of exercise.
Walking finds itself in generally the same boat. Whenever the nearest
"something" is miles away, not many people are willing to walk. You can say
this is a bad thing, but in today's busy world, walking would simply take
way too much time.
Just to tie this into Europe, I find that whenever I vacation there, I end
up walking 3000 times more than I normally do. I actually "prepare" by
using the treadmill etc --- otherwise I find my legs are a little sore after
a full day of sight-seeing. Although I'm being facetious here, it's no
wonder those damn europeans are all thin --- looking at how much they walk
on foot, how fast they walk, etc.
Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
out-of-breath, sweaty, etc? And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You
want to walk 35 blocks after eating a meal? Obviously, the locals in NYC do
this on a regular basis --- those of us not accustomed to that amount of
walking is a different story.
> The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
> South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
> road
I'm not picking on you citizen142, but when I was 5? years old, my parents
taught me to look BOTH ways before crossing the street. Call me immature,
but I still look both ways before I cross the street, no matter where I'm at
in the world.
I will say that I'm happy as well that London has printed the "Look Right"
on the roads. It's definitely a good reminder.
Keith
Pittsburgh
Dec 24th 2004, 5:45 pm
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Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
> Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
> conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
> where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
> we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
> before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
> out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
out of breath; that's a little scary.
> And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You want to walk 35 blocks after
> eating a meal?
Absolutely! I walked home 20km after my Christmas eve dinner tonight. And it
was 85F. Nothing better for alleviating the guilt of overeating.
miguel
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> Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
> conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
> where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
> we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
> before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
> out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
out of breath; that's a little scary.
> And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You want to walk 35 blocks after
> eating a meal?
Absolutely! I walked home 20km after my Christmas eve dinner tonight. And it
was 85F. Nothing better for alleviating the guilt of overeating.
miguel
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Hit The Road! Photos from 32 countries on 5 continents: http://travel.u.nu
Dec 24th 2004, 6:23 pm
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Keith wrote:
> Just to tie this into Europe, I find that whenever I vacation there, I end
> up walking 3000 times more than I normally do. I actually "prepare" by
> using the treadmill etc --- otherwise I find my legs are a little sore after
> a full day of sight-seeing. Although I'm being facetious here, it's no
> wonder those damn europeans are all thin --- looking at how much they walk
> on foot, how fast they walk, etc.
>
> Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
> conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
> where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
> we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
> before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
> out-of-breath, sweaty, etc? And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You
> want to walk 35 blocks after eating a meal? Obviously, the locals in NYC do
> this on a regular basis --- those of us not accustomed to that amount of
> walking is a different story.
When my favorite (Belgian) opera singer was last in New
York, we had drinks with him at his hotel. Even to my New
Yorker companion, it was not exactly "walking distance" from
Lincoln Center, but he told us he made the daily round trip
on foot (and apparently thought nothing of the distance).
> Just to tie this into Europe, I find that whenever I vacation there, I end
> up walking 3000 times more than I normally do. I actually "prepare" by
> using the treadmill etc --- otherwise I find my legs are a little sore after
> a full day of sight-seeing. Although I'm being facetious here, it's no
> wonder those damn europeans are all thin --- looking at how much they walk
> on foot, how fast they walk, etc.
>
> Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
> conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
> where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
> we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
> before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
> out-of-breath, sweaty, etc? And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You
> want to walk 35 blocks after eating a meal? Obviously, the locals in NYC do
> this on a regular basis --- those of us not accustomed to that amount of
> walking is a different story.
When my favorite (Belgian) opera singer was last in New
York, we had drinks with him at his hotel. Even to my New
Yorker companion, it was not exactly "walking distance" from
Lincoln Center, but he told us he made the daily round trip
on foot (and apparently thought nothing of the distance).
Dec 24th 2004, 6:28 pm
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Miguel Cruz wrote:
> Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
>>conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
>>where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
>>we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
>>before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
>>out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
>
>
> I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
> out of breath; that's a little scary.
"Little" depends somewhat upon location - true, some NYC
"blocks" are short, but others..... (Of course, I prefer to
walk at a comfortable pace, so I seldom arrive
"out-of-breath".) Fortunately, I prefer to arrive early
when I have tickets to an event, so even if I've allowed
myself less time than I'd like, I still arrive well in
advance of curtain time.
> Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
>>conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
>>where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
>>we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
>>before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
>>out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
>
>
> I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
> out of breath; that's a little scary.
"Little" depends somewhat upon location - true, some NYC
"blocks" are short, but others..... (Of course, I prefer to
walk at a comfortable pace, so I seldom arrive
"out-of-breath".) Fortunately, I prefer to arrive early
when I have tickets to an event, so even if I've allowed
myself less time than I'd like, I still arrive well in
advance of curtain time.
Dec 24th 2004, 7:10 pm
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
>>>conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
>>>where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
>>>we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
>>>before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
>>>out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
>> I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
>> out of breath; that's a little scary.
> "Little" depends somewhat upon location - true, some NYC "blocks" are short,
> but others..... (Of course, I prefer to walk at a comfortable pace, so I
> seldom arrive "out-of-breath".) Fortunately, I prefer to arrive early when I
> have tickets to an event, so even if I've allowed myself less time than I'd
> like, I still arrive well in advance of curtain time.
OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in a
US City?).
JohnT
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> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
>>>conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
>>>where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
>>>we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
>>>before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
>>>out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
>> I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
>> out of breath; that's a little scary.
> "Little" depends somewhat upon location - true, some NYC "blocks" are short,
> but others..... (Of course, I prefer to walk at a comfortable pace, so I
> seldom arrive "out-of-breath".) Fortunately, I prefer to arrive early when I
> have tickets to an event, so even if I've allowed myself less time than I'd
> like, I still arrive well in advance of curtain time.
OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in a
US City?).
JohnT
Dec 24th 2004, 8:00 pm
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JohnT wrote:
>
> OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
> lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
> distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in a
> US City?).
>
NYC blocks going North-South are about 20 to the mile, going East-West,
about 10 to the mile.
Sheila
>
> OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
> lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
> distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in a
> US City?).
>
NYC blocks going North-South are about 20 to the mile, going East-West,
about 10 to the mile.
Sheila
Dec 24th 2004, 8:20 pm
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
>>> conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
>>> where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
>>> we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
>>> before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
>>> out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
>>
>> I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
>> out of breath; that's a little scary.
> "Little" depends somewhat upon location - true, some NYC
> "blocks" are short, but others....
But if someone talks about "35 blocks" in New York, they're almost certainly
talking about north-south blocks. 35 of those isn't even 2 miles.
miguel
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>Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Keith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Certainly NYC has its fair share of power-walkers. I went to NYC for a
>>> conference one year, and there was a local guy who was making suggestions on
>>> where to eat. He suggested a restaurant 35 city blocks away, and suggested
>>> we walk there. We didn't end up going there, but I would have taken a taxi
>>> before I walked 35 blocks. Lazy? Maybe. Who wants to arrive at lunch tired,
>>> out-of-breath, sweaty, etc?
>>
>> I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave you
>> out of breath; that's a little scary.
> "Little" depends somewhat upon location - true, some NYC
> "blocks" are short, but others....
But if someone talks about "35 blocks" in New York, they're almost certainly
talking about north-south blocks. 35 of those isn't even 2 miles.
miguel
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Dec 24th 2004, 9:42 pm
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Re: _:Re: Mean streets in Europe?
"S Viemeister" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> JohnT wrote:
>> OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
>> lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
>> distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in
>> a
>> US City?).
> NYC blocks going North-South are about 20 to the mile, going East-West,
> about 10 to the mile.
> Sheila
Thank you. I now realise why I regarded 42nd Street to Columbus Circle (?) at
Central Park South as a gentle stroll on my last visit to the Big Apple. Happy
Christmas.
JohnT
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> JohnT wrote:
>> OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
>> lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
>> distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in
>> a
>> US City?).
> NYC blocks going North-South are about 20 to the mile, going East-West,
> about 10 to the mile.
> Sheila
Thank you. I now realise why I regarded 42nd Street to Columbus Circle (?) at
Central Park South as a gentle stroll on my last visit to the Big Apple. Happy
Christmas.
JohnT