Keith

"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I really hope that walking 35 of those little NYC blocks wouldn't leave
you
    > out of breath; that's a little scary.

Whatever that translates to, let's say 1.5 miles, is too far to walk for
lunch. I'm not going to walk 3 miles roundtrip for a lunch, whenever I'm
sure there are sufficient places closer. If I was going to go jogging, for
exercise, that is probably appropriate. In the middle of the day, with
conferences you have to attend in the afternoon, it seems ridiculous.

Perhaps if you grew up in an area like NYC, then you are probably used to
this type of daily exercise. The majority of the suburbanites I know would
laugh out loud if someone suggested we walk to a restaurant 1.5 miles away.
Although we were talking about NYC, walking 1.5 miles in the suburbs isn't
even possible(read:safe) due to lack of sidewalks, etc. Before you render
judgement, you have to consider the environments in which people grow up.

I've marched 20 miles with 60-100lbs of gear on my back, and so I know what
it's like to walk.

    > Absolutely! I walked home 20km after my Christmas eve dinner tonight. And
it
    > was 85F. Nothing better for alleviating the guilt of overeating.

You walked 12.5 miles ? I'm glad you are in such good shape. Can I see a
show of hands of how many others here walked more than 10 miles home from
dinner this evening?

    > miguel
    > --
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Merry Christmas.

Keith

Keith

"JohnT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly
typical), a
    > lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare
in
    > distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile
in a
    > US City?).

And that's exactly the point I'm making. If you walk 4 miles everyday, and
4 miles is typical, then 4 miles is not far. The culture and environment
defines what's considered normal, acceptable, etc.

Take a group of professional athletes practicing for the marathons, and 15
miles is a walk in the park. Would you consider 15 miles easy? At the pace
at which they will be keeping? You can argue differences in age if you
want, but the point here is that 15 miles three times farther than you
normally walk.

That's all I'm saying.

    > JohnT

Merry Christmas.

Keith

Szozu

"citizen142" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > The greatest danger on the streets of Europe for the British, Japanese,
    > South Africans etc. is that we instinctively look right when crossing the
    > road and on the continent and most of the world that is very, very
    > dangerous, as they drive on the right hand side of the road. I know I
    > escaped death by a fraction of a second in Spain this year for that very
    > reason - didn't stop shaking for 5 minutes - it was that close.
While living in Spain I learned to ALWAYS look both ways because of motor
scooters that respected no traffic laws and would often be found hurtling
the wrong way down one-way streets, as well as mounting the pavement when it
suited them--and certainly pedestrian-only streets were never a deterrent.

Lana

Szozu

"Keith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

    > Whatever that translates to, let's say 1.5 miles, is too far to walk for
    > lunch. I'm not going to walk 3 miles roundtrip for a lunch, whenever I'm
    > sure there are sufficient places closer. If I was going to go jogging,
for
    > exercise, that is probably appropriate. In the middle of the day, with
    > conferences you have to attend in the afternoon, it seems ridiculous.

Walking is often faster than taking public transport or waiting to flag down
a taxi and then getting stuck in traffic.

    > Perhaps if you grew up in an area like NYC, then you are probably used to
    > this type of daily exercise. The majority of the suburbanites I know
would
    > laugh out loud if someone suggested we walk to a restaurant 1.5 miles
away.

The majority of American suburbanites confine their walking to strolling
around the shopping mall. And there's the fact that most suburban landscapes
are mind-numbingly boring, making one mile seem like ten. In New York and in
European cities, walking is an interesting activity.

Lana

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citizen142 wrote:
    > we instinctively look right when crossing the
    > road and on the continent and most of the world that is very, very
    > dangerous, as they drive on the right hand side of the road. I know I
    > escaped death by a fraction of a second in Spain this year for that very
    > reason - didn't stop shaking for 5 minutes - it was that close.

Last time I was in London, I learned to not even try to cross a
street unless someone was right next to me. As you, I'm lucky to be
alive.

I'll never forget some kid in a passing car screaming "Mind the
road!" at me because he saw a close call.

I will never again drive on "the other" side of the road, even with a
local passenger.
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JohnT wrote:
    > OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly
    > typical), a lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How
    > does that compare in distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how
    > many blocks are there to a mile in a US City?).

In the Sunset and Richmond districts of San Francisco, there're about
twelve blocks to a mile. Golden Gate Park (about four miles long
excluding the Panhandle) starts about four blocks before Second
Avenue and ends a short block after Forty-Eighth Avenue.

The Up- Down-town blocks in Manhattan are very short. Many is the
time I've walked more than thirty of 'em.
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EvelynVogtGamble

szozu wrote:

    >
    > The majority of American suburbanites confine their walking to strolling
    > around the shopping mall. And there's the fact that most suburban landscapes
    > are mind-numbingly boring, making one mile seem like ten. In New York and in
    > European cities, walking is an interesting activity.

They also provide "sidewalks" for the use of pedestrians!
Many suburban areas in the U.S. provide only streets for
vehicular traffic. Pedestrians either take their chances on
the highway, or trespass across a series of front lawns.

EvelynVogtGamble

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drunk driver, or the innocent victim of a drive-by shooting...

2 cups finely chopped very young human flesh
1 cup shredded cabbage
1 cup bean sprouts
5 sprigs green onion, finely chopped
5 cloves minced garlic
4-6 ounces bamboo shoots
Sherry
chicken broth
oil for deep frying (1 gallon)
Salt
pepper
soy & teriyaki
minced ginger, etc.
1 tablespoon cornstarch dissolved in a little cold water
1 egg beaten

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then stir fry in hot oil for till brown - about 1 minute, remove.
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Put the meat back into the wok and adjust the seasoning.
De-glaze with sherry, cooking off the alcohol.
Add broth (optional) cook a few more minutes.
Add the cornstarch, cook a few minutes till thick,
then place the stuffing into a colander and cool;
2 hours
Wrap the rolls:
Place 3 tablespoons of stuffing in the wrap, roll tightly -
corner nearest you first, fold 2 side corners in,
wrap till remaining corner is left.
Brush with egg, seal, and allow to sit on the seal for
a few minut

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and garlic perhaps)
1 inch cubes of tender meat, preferably from the nursery
Onions
bell peppers
Wooden or metal skewers

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Don?t be afraid to use a variety of meats.
Grill to medium rare,
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1 newborn - cocaine addicted, freshly expired, cleaned and butchered
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onions
leeks
celery
bell pepper
potatoes
Salt
pepper
garlic, etc
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ice
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The Reids

Following up to S Viemeister

    >> OK. I am 67 years old and I walked 4 miles today (which is fairly typical), a
    >> lot of it uphill, in temperatures around freezing. How does that compare in
    >> distance with 35 New York Blocks? (And how many blocks are there to a mile in a
    >> US City?).
    >>
    >NYC blocks going North-South are about 20 to the mile, going East-West,
    >about 10 to the mile.

so we are talking 3.5 miles? That's a stroll, not a walk.
--
Mike Reid
UK Red Cross earthquake appeal is at
"http://www.redcross.org.uk"

The Reids

Following up to Miguel Cruz

    >> And of course, round trip is 70 blocks. You want to walk 35 blocks after
    >> eating a meal?
    >Absolutely! I walked home 20km after my Christmas eve dinner tonight. And it
    >was 85F. Nothing better for alleviating the guilt of overeating.

nothing better than a good walk after a meal, especially in the
cold, How far is 35 blocks?
--
Mike Reid
UK Red Cross earthquake appeal is at
"http://www.redcross.org.uk"

The Reids

Following up to Keith

    >And that's exactly the point I'm making. If you walk 4 miles everyday, and
    >4 miles is typical, then 4 miles is not far. The culture and environment
    >defines what's considered normal, acceptable, etc.

I'll stick my neck out and say most of the worlds population now,
and all of the worlds population 50 years ago, regarded 4 miles
as a short walk. I used to walk farther to school every day in
the 50s. The human body, to be healthy, requires that level of
"fitness" in all but the old or infirm.
--
Mike Reid
UK Red Cross earthquake appeal is at
"http://www.redcross.org.uk"

The Reids

Following up to Keith

    >Whatever that translates to, let's say 1.5 miles, is too far to walk for
    >lunch. I'm not going to walk 3 miles roundtrip for a lunch, whenever I'm
    >sure there are sufficient places closer. If I was going to go jogging, for
    >exercise, that is probably appropriate. In the middle of the day, with
    >conferences you have to attend in the afternoon, it seems ridiculous.

I find it ridiculous anybody would think 1.5 mile walk
ridiculous!
--
Mike Reid
UK Red Cross earthquake appeal is at
"http://www.redcross.org.uk"

Nitram

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:28:33 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to Keith
    >>And that's exactly the point I'm making. If you walk 4 miles everyday, and
    >>4 miles is typical, then 4 miles is not far. The culture and environment
    >>defines what's considered normal, acceptable, etc.
    >I'll stick my neck out and say most of the worlds population now,
    >and all of the worlds population 50 years ago, regarded 4 miles
    >as a short walk. I used to walk farther to school every day in
    >the 50s.

Walk? The rest of us got up late and ran :-)
--
Martin

Nitram

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:29:56 +0000, The Reids
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >Following up to Keith
    >>Whatever that translates to, let's say 1.5 miles, is too far to walk for
    >>lunch. I'm not going to walk 3 miles roundtrip for a lunch, whenever I'm
    >>sure there are sufficient places closer. If I was going to go jogging, for
    >>exercise, that is probably appropriate. In the middle of the day, with
    >>conferences you have to attend in the afternoon, it seems ridiculous.
    >I find it ridiculous anybody would think 1.5 mile walk
    >ridiculous!

A 3 mile walk is a bit much if you only have 40 minutes for lunch.
--
Martin