4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet other Americans?
Jul 1st 2004, 4:59 pm
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Rumsfeld taught him
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> Runge writes:
> > he hasn't seen the film
> Where did he learn how to treat prisoners, then?
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> Runge writes:
> > he hasn't seen the film
> Where did he learn how to treat prisoners, then?
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Jul 1st 2004, 5:00 pm
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yeah just have a look at Albania
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> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Runge writes:
> >
> > > Well your local choices are irrevelant with european matters
> >
> > I dunno. Bush invited Turkey into the E.U.
> Yes, but no one cared- and it's not his invitation to give.
> > You know, the country where
> > honor killings are still a fact of life.
> They happen in the UK, too (probably France and other EU countries as
> well)- and it's often hard to prosecute. Usually among immigrant
> families, or settled families of arab/muslim descent. (There's nothing
> particularly Islamic about honour killings- it's more of a regional
> cultural thing- and some of those cultures happen to be muslim.)
> David
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"David Horne" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message
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> Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Runge writes:
> >
> > > Well your local choices are irrevelant with european matters
> >
> > I dunno. Bush invited Turkey into the E.U.
> Yes, but no one cared- and it's not his invitation to give.
> > You know, the country where
> > honor killings are still a fact of life.
> They happen in the UK, too (probably France and other EU countries as
> well)- and it's often hard to prosecute. Usually among immigrant
> families, or settled families of arab/muslim descent. (There's nothing
> particularly Islamic about honour killings- it's more of a regional
> cultural thing- and some of those cultures happen to be muslim.)
> David
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> usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jul 1st 2004, 5:01 pm
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No God doesn't exist so his willing is irrevelant
"Evelyn Gamble" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> David Horne wrote:
> > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Some of us share your uneasiness about that, but what other choice is
> >>>there?
> >>
> >>None. In the U.S., in every other Presidential election, you have only
> >>two options: keep the current President, or replace him with someone
> >>else. It scarcely even qualifies as democracy, and yet Americans like
> >>to crow about the imaginary merits of the "two-party system" (just as
> >>totalitarian governments crow about the merits of a "one-party system").
> >>
> >>At least in other democratic countries you can have a half-dozen
> >>candidates to choose from.
> >
> >
> > Yes, but most of western Europe, if you have a look at the voting
> > patterns in the last few decades, have oscillated between centre left
> > and centre right (by European standards) parties, creating if you like a
> > de facto two-party system, even in countries with a fairer system of
> > proportional representation.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't quite understand the aversion to Kerry by Evelyn. Yes,
> > he's very rich (through marriage) and yes, he's part of the Washington
> > establishment,
> Nothing so strong as "aversion" - actually, I like what he says
> (mostly). It's simply that, in these days of "spin" replacing genuine
> convictions, I regard any member of the political "establishment" with
> at least mild suspicion, regardless of his apparent "position" on any
> issue. On the other hand, FDR wasn't exactly destitute, and for all
> that he was the scion of a political dynasty, I liked JFK. Time will
> tell. If (God willing) Kerry is elected, he will be inheriting an
> unalloyed mess - we'll see if he can do better than his predecessor.
> (Although he could scarcely do worse!)
"Evelyn Gamble" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> David Horne wrote:
> > Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Some of us share your uneasiness about that, but what other choice is
> >>>there?
> >>
> >>None. In the U.S., in every other Presidential election, you have only
> >>two options: keep the current President, or replace him with someone
> >>else. It scarcely even qualifies as democracy, and yet Americans like
> >>to crow about the imaginary merits of the "two-party system" (just as
> >>totalitarian governments crow about the merits of a "one-party system").
> >>
> >>At least in other democratic countries you can have a half-dozen
> >>candidates to choose from.
> >
> >
> > Yes, but most of western Europe, if you have a look at the voting
> > patterns in the last few decades, have oscillated between centre left
> > and centre right (by European standards) parties, creating if you like a
> > de facto two-party system, even in countries with a fairer system of
> > proportional representation.
> >
> > Anyway, I don't quite understand the aversion to Kerry by Evelyn. Yes,
> > he's very rich (through marriage) and yes, he's part of the Washington
> > establishment,
> Nothing so strong as "aversion" - actually, I like what he says
> (mostly). It's simply that, in these days of "spin" replacing genuine
> convictions, I regard any member of the political "establishment" with
> at least mild suspicion, regardless of his apparent "position" on any
> issue. On the other hand, FDR wasn't exactly destitute, and for all
> that he was the scion of a political dynasty, I liked JFK. Time will
> tell. If (God willing) Kerry is elected, he will be inheriting an
> unalloyed mess - we'll see if he can do better than his predecessor.
> (Although he could scarcely do worse!)
Jul 1st 2004, 6:13 pm
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 07:34:43 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:
> Jeremy Henderson writes:
>
>> However, I can't believe that your luggage wouldn't accomodate a change of
>> clothes - how much room does a pair of shorts and a fly-fishing vest take
>> up?
>
> If I have time and reason to change, I have time and reason to return
> home.
But if the reason you wish to return home is that you don't wan to spend
the weekend in a business suit, then your reply doesn't make sense.
But you knew that already, of course.
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> Jeremy Henderson writes:
>
>> However, I can't believe that your luggage wouldn't accomodate a change of
>> clothes - how much room does a pair of shorts and a fly-fishing vest take
>> up?
>
> If I have time and reason to change, I have time and reason to return
> home.
But if the reason you wish to return home is that you don't wan to spend
the weekend in a business suit, then your reply doesn't make sense.
But you knew that already, of course.
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Jul 1st 2004, 8:16 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> David Horne writes:
>
> > They happen in the UK, too (probably France and other EU countries as
> > well)- and it's often hard to prosecute.
>
> What makes murder hard to prosecute?
It's not the murder per se- it's establishing the facts. With so-called
honour killing, it's not unusual for several family members to be
complicit in the act, hiding relevant facts from the police, and making
it harder to prosecute. Also, the women in many cases are taken out of
the country before being murdered, often in countries where it's almost
impossible to get a successful prosecution.
The UK police have several hundred cases at the moment which they
suspect are probably honour killings, but can't prove it.
David
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> David Horne writes:
>
> > They happen in the UK, too (probably France and other EU countries as
> > well)- and it's often hard to prosecute.
>
> What makes murder hard to prosecute?
It's not the murder per se- it's establishing the facts. With so-called
honour killing, it's not unusual for several family members to be
complicit in the act, hiding relevant facts from the police, and making
it harder to prosecute. Also, the women in many cases are taken out of
the country before being murdered, often in countries where it's almost
impossible to get a successful prosecution.
The UK police have several hundred cases at the moment which they
suspect are probably honour killings, but can't prove it.
David
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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Jul 2nd 2004, 4:00 am
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Re: 4th of July in Paris alone, any suggestions on where to meet other America
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
> Runge writes:
>
> > You've never set foot at l'arabe du quartier
>
> I've patronized several small family-run groceries in my neighborhood
I'm glad to hear it's not just us.
[email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
> Runge writes:
>
> > You've never set foot at l'arabe du quartier
>
> I've patronized several small family-run groceries in my neighborhood
I'm glad to hear it's not just us.
Jul 2nd 2004, 4:57 am
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Jeremy Henderson writes:
> But if the reason you wish to return home is that you don't wan to spend
> the weekend in a business suit, then your reply doesn't make sense.
The reason why I want to return home is that I like to decide for myself
where to live and spend my time.
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> But if the reason you wish to return home is that you don't wan to spend
> the weekend in a business suit, then your reply doesn't make sense.
The reason why I want to return home is that I like to decide for myself
where to live and spend my time.
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Jul 2nd 2004, 10:58 am
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Give me homer any time, not god !!
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> Runge wrote:
> > Yeah well Homer Simpson is one of my favorites...
> Figures!
"Evelyn Gamble" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> Runge wrote:
> > Yeah well Homer Simpson is one of my favorites...
> Figures!
Jul 2nd 2004, 6:41 pm
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Evelyn Gamble <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the interesting bits of news footage in "Fahrenheit 9/11" shows
> the protests during his inaugural parade! I wonder how many people who
> were not there were as surprised at the egg-throwing incident as I was?
> I had no idea there had been THAT much protest!
As someone who was actually there, I'd say there was a pretty substantial
corps of protestors. However, they were all individuals or in small groups.
There was an organized protest march which the police did not allow to reach
the inaugural parade route. They were not stopping individuals, though (even
those carrying signs, etc. - despite a security check to enter the parade
route area).
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> One of the interesting bits of news footage in "Fahrenheit 9/11" shows
> the protests during his inaugural parade! I wonder how many people who
> were not there were as surprised at the egg-throwing incident as I was?
> I had no idea there had been THAT much protest!
As someone who was actually there, I'd say there was a pretty substantial
corps of protestors. However, they were all individuals or in small groups.
There was an organized protest march which the police did not allow to reach
the inaugural parade route. They were not stopping individuals, though (even
those carrying signs, etc. - despite a security check to enter the parade
route area).
miguel
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Jul 2nd 2004, 6:56 pm
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Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:16:26 +0000, Miguel Cruz wrote:
>>>> Barney <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> [email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
>>>>>>> And no, theres no rootbeer in France.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there is. I can find it pretty easily.
>>>>> Where, AAMOI? I find it difficult to locate in the UK. Maybe I should
>>>>> stock up in Calais sometime!
>>>>
>>>> There are (or at least were a couple years ago) several little shops in
>>>> the Earls Court and South Kensington area that stocked it.
>>> The question is, "why?" Root beer is utterly vile. I can (vaguely)
>>> understand that someone who has been brought up on it may not be able to
>>> appreciate that, but for someone whose tastebuds are still intact I can't
>>> see how you can choke it down.
>>
>> Now here, in contrast to so many others recently, is a topic on which I'm
>> sure we can debate our way into objective consensus.
>>
>> The reason why, my dear man, is because it's the modern-day Ambrosia.
> Well, in the spirit of reasoned debate and intellectual discussion, may I
> respond in the only way appropriate:
> bleuurrgghh!!!
Ok, well you got me there. But watch your back. I'm going to be trawling the
finest research libraries, crunching numbers, hiring graduate student
assistants, never resting for a moment, and one day when you least expect it
I will refute your argument like no argument has ever been refuted before.
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> Miguel Cruz wrote:
>> Jeremy Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:16:26 +0000, Miguel Cruz wrote:
>>>> Barney <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> [email protected] (Mxsmanic) wrote:
>>>>>>> And no, theres no rootbeer in France.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there is. I can find it pretty easily.
>>>>> Where, AAMOI? I find it difficult to locate in the UK. Maybe I should
>>>>> stock up in Calais sometime!
>>>>
>>>> There are (or at least were a couple years ago) several little shops in
>>>> the Earls Court and South Kensington area that stocked it.
>>> The question is, "why?" Root beer is utterly vile. I can (vaguely)
>>> understand that someone who has been brought up on it may not be able to
>>> appreciate that, but for someone whose tastebuds are still intact I can't
>>> see how you can choke it down.
>>
>> Now here, in contrast to so many others recently, is a topic on which I'm
>> sure we can debate our way into objective consensus.
>>
>> The reason why, my dear man, is because it's the modern-day Ambrosia.
> Well, in the spirit of reasoned debate and intellectual discussion, may I
> respond in the only way appropriate:
> bleuurrgghh!!!
Ok, well you got me there. But watch your back. I'm going to be trawling the
finest research libraries, crunching numbers, hiring graduate student
assistants, never resting for a moment, and one day when you least expect it
I will refute your argument like no argument has ever been refuted before.
miguel
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Jul 2nd 2004, 7:05 pm
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Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> The reason why I want to return home is that I like to decide for myself
> where to live
The reason that you want to return home is that you like to decide for
yourself where to live? What does that mean?
miguel
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> The reason why I want to return home is that I like to decide for myself
> where to live
The reason that you want to return home is that you like to decide for
yourself where to live? What does that mean?
miguel
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Jul 2nd 2004, 7:43 pm
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"Runge" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> Why?
> Because that kind of conduct gets on my nerves.
C'est ton droit le plus absolu de trouver idiot de vouloir fêter le 4
juillet au lieu d'essayer de découvrir la France,
(je suis assez d'accord avec toi) mais tu n'as besoin de généraliser à tous
les Américains.
La plupart des Américains qui postent sur ce groupe régulièrement sont assez
europhiles. Je crois que ton attitude
injuste leur porte pas mal sur les nerfs aussi.
Si ce qui t'amuse c'est de faire de l'« American bashing » il y a des
groupes plus appropriés pour ça sur usenet,
du genre « alt.nuke.usa » ou « alt.nuke.france ».
En ce moment tu es en train de te mettre tout le monde à dos, ce qui est
dommage parce tu pourrais participer de façon
plus constructive. Il y a beaucoup de questions sur la France, et pas
seulement, heureusement, pour demander le chemin
du Mc Do.
news:[email protected]...
> Why?
> Because that kind of conduct gets on my nerves.
C'est ton droit le plus absolu de trouver idiot de vouloir fêter le 4
juillet au lieu d'essayer de découvrir la France,
(je suis assez d'accord avec toi) mais tu n'as besoin de généraliser à tous
les Américains.
La plupart des Américains qui postent sur ce groupe régulièrement sont assez
europhiles. Je crois que ton attitude
injuste leur porte pas mal sur les nerfs aussi.
Si ce qui t'amuse c'est de faire de l'« American bashing » il y a des
groupes plus appropriés pour ça sur usenet,
du genre « alt.nuke.usa » ou « alt.nuke.france ».
En ce moment tu es en train de te mettre tout le monde à dos, ce qui est
dommage parce tu pourrais participer de façon
plus constructive. Il y a beaucoup de questions sur la France, et pas
seulement, heureusement, pour demander le chemin
du Mc Do.
Jul 2nd 2004, 8:35 pm
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Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The reason why I want to return home is that I like to decide for myself
>> where to live
>The reason that you want to return home is that you like to decide for
>yourself where to live? What does that mean?
That's easy: he wants to live at home. Unlike the rest of us.
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>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The reason why I want to return home is that I like to decide for myself
>> where to live
>The reason that you want to return home is that you like to decide for
>yourself where to live? What does that mean?
That's easy: he wants to live at home. Unlike the rest of us.
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Jul 2nd 2004, 9:02 pm
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Miguel Cruz writes:
> The reason that you want to return home is that you like to decide for
> yourself where to live? What does that mean?
It means I don't like being told by an employer that I must live in some
randomly-selected foreign country 24 hours a day for a week.
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> The reason that you want to return home is that you like to decide for
> yourself where to live? What does that mean?
It means I don't like being told by an employer that I must live in some
randomly-selected foreign country 24 hours a day for a week.
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Jul 2nd 2004, 9:07 pm
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So get out of it...quick !!
"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> Runge writes:
> > Well I cant help you with that one, after all your country is the land
of
> > plenty and open possibilities
> France has never been that way.
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"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> Runge writes:
> > Well I cant help you with that one, after all your country is the land
of
> > plenty and open possibilities
> France has never been that way.
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