how do I become a resident
Jan 24th 2020, 8:22 pm
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Theydon't need to accept changes made between the versions of the Bills presented to the UK Parliament as those items deleted or otherwise amended don't touch on either the Withdrawal Agreement legal document or the accompanying political statement and were merely a vehicle for persuading waverers in a hung UK parliament to vote for the first version.
Their removal from the UK's Withdrawal Agreement Bill in the new Conservative overall majority parliament doesn't constitute an amendment to the Withdrawal Agreement itself.
Their removal from the UK's Withdrawal Agreement Bill in the new Conservative overall majority parliament doesn't constitute an amendment to the Withdrawal Agreement itself.
Jan 25th 2020, 6:39 am
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All the wheeling and dealing's already done. There'll be some in the EU Parliament who'll vote against but not in anywhere near enough numbers to quash it.
Jan 25th 2020, 8:08 am
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but who cares as long as the French and Germans agree........lol
Jan 25th 2020, 8:53 am
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Put your cup down & read this latest info mfeshaky hands! ;-)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...box=1579896422
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...box=1579896422
As I said, many a slip .twixt cup & lip.......................... & personally, I'll believe it only when it's actually done & I place absolutely no faith in any politician ever.
Jan 25th 2020, 1:10 pm
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Jan 25th 2020, 1:14 pm
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They do?
Both the President of the Commission and the President of the Council have signed - the latter represents all 27 of the heads of government or state in that institution in this case, does he not? I'd be surprised if they need a (or another) vote.
The EU Parliament still does, though.
Both the President of the Commission and the President of the Council have signed - the latter represents all 27 of the heads of government or state in that institution in this case, does he not? I'd be surprised if they need a (or another) vote.
The EU Parliament still does, though.
Jan 25th 2020, 1:44 pm
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They do?
Both the President of the Commission and the President of the Council have signed - the latter represents all 27 of the heads of government or state in that institution in this case, does he not? I'd be surprised if they need a (or another) vote.
The EU Parliament still does, though.
Both the President of the Commission and the President of the Council have signed - the latter represents all 27 of the heads of government or state in that institution in this case, does he not? I'd be surprised if they need a (or another) vote.
The EU Parliament still does, though.
The only variation I've seen is some sources claim all 27 members have to agree, some say more than half & some say at least a 2 thirds majority but bearing in mind the Telegraph getting it as wrong as they did yesterday I guess we have to take apll of it with a pinch of salt.
Jan 25th 2020, 1:56 pm
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I can only go by the media reports I see but all of the ones I've seen are saying that the 27 member states still have to vote on it.
The only variation I've seen is some sources claim all 27 members have to agree, some say more than half & some say at least a 2 thirds majority but bearing in mind the Telegraph getting it as wrong as they did yesterday I guess we have to take apll of it with a pinch of salt.
The only variation I've seen is some sources claim all 27 members have to agree, some say more than half & some say at least a 2 thirds majority but bearing in mind the Telegraph getting it as wrong as they did yesterday I guess we have to take apll of it with a pinch of salt.
Jan 25th 2020, 2:15 pm
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Jan 25th 2020, 3:55 pm
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There was a time the Telegraph was one of the better & more informed sources but those days appear to be long gone....................... How on earth could they have got such an important subject so very wrong FFS?
Seems to me that both the author & editor didn't even take a few minutes to do their research & check facts & to me, that's an appallingly bad level of professionalism.
Jan 25th 2020, 4:34 pm
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EDIT - OK, I've found one. I reckon the Commons Library is an authoritative enough source.
How will the EU ratify the WA?
The process for EU ratification of the WA is set out in Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union. This is a two-step process. The European Parliament must give its consent to the agreement. The Council of EU will then need to give its final approval to the agreement by a ‘qualified majority’. The Council of the EU is made up of ministerial representatives of each Member State.
The process for EU ratification of the WA is set out in Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union. This is a two-step process. The European Parliament must give its consent to the agreement. The Council of EU will then need to give its final approval to the agreement by a ‘qualified majority’. The Council of the EU is made up of ministerial representatives of each Member State.
Resolves the question of unanimity as well, which makes it falling in the EU Council a complete non-starter even if it wasn't already.
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Jan 25th 2020, 5:12 pm
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That's exactly what I always thought as well but some media are claiming otherwise.
If it does have to be unanimous & bearing in mind there are several othe member states that are becoming ever increasingly anti EU the apple cart becomes significantly more unstable so an ever increasing number of possible slips 'twixt cup & lip.
As I said previously, I don't trust any politician & will believe it when it actually happens.
If it does have to be unanimous & bearing in mind there are several othe member states that are becoming ever increasingly anti EU the apple cart becomes significantly more unstable so an ever increasing number of possible slips 'twixt cup & lip.
As I said previously, I don't trust any politician & will believe it when it actually happens.
Jan 25th 2020, 5:35 pm
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It doesn't have to be unanimous. Also, it's merely a formality at this late stage :
The Council vote to give final approval to the WA will take place after the European Parliament vote. No Council meeting is scheduled between 29 and 31 January. It is expected that the Council will take the vote by a written procedure, whereby Council members agree to provide their votes in writing.
The vote will be by ‘reinforced qualified majority’. Standard ‘qualified majority’ requires approval by 55% of Member States representing at least 65% of the total EU population. A ‘reinforced qualified majority’ requires 72% of Member States representing at least 65% of the population. This effectively means that representatives of at least 20 of the 27 remaining Member States will be required to approve the WA.
Under Article 50, the withdrawing Member State does not take part in votes on its withdrawal. As such, the UK will not take part in the Council vote on the WA.
The WA has already been approved by Member States’ leaders in the European Council. The Council vote is regarded as a formality.
The Council has already approved a draft decision on the conclusion of the WA Withdrawal Agreement.
The vote will be by ‘reinforced qualified majority’. Standard ‘qualified majority’ requires approval by 55% of Member States representing at least 65% of the total EU population. A ‘reinforced qualified majority’ requires 72% of Member States representing at least 65% of the population. This effectively means that representatives of at least 20 of the 27 remaining Member States will be required to approve the WA.
Under Article 50, the withdrawing Member State does not take part in votes on its withdrawal. As such, the UK will not take part in the Council vote on the WA.
The WA has already been approved by Member States’ leaders in the European Council. The Council vote is regarded as a formality.
The Council has already approved a draft decision on the conclusion of the WA Withdrawal Agreement.
Jan 25th 2020, 5:37 pm
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You know what?
This enormous thread has got to the point where I have no idea of what I, or anybody else, is talking about.
This enormous thread has got to the point where I have no idea of what I, or anybody else, is talking about.
Jan 25th 2020, 5:43 pm
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Re: how do I become a resident
If you have a Residencia and login, then you should apply online for NHR, if no login, then get one immediately and apply for NHR.
The reason is that NHR status continues for 10 years. But if, during that 10 year period, you are non resident, it is not cancelled. You just don’t get the benefit of it during that time.
The reason is that NHR status continues for 10 years. But if, during that 10 year period, you are non resident, it is not cancelled. You just don’t get the benefit of it during that time.
I heard yesterday, by the by, that the Portuguese are actually considering getting rid of NHR. Do you know if that is true?