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scrubbedexpat142 May 23rd 2017 8:27 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by GeniB (Post 12259331)
My sister-in law is Finnish.. Well Swedish/German actually from her ancestry. Wasn't there a program on the Finns being unconnected with any other race on earth.? ditto their language?. They are also the most incestuous nation on earth.:eek:

My understanding is that the Finns & Magyars both came out of the east together then split, 1 group going north the other west, to the Carpathians. Neither group is ethnically or linguistically related to any other European race. As for incestuous, I couldn't possibly comment!

007Steve May 24th 2017 4:36 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
In my 25 years experience of Brits Abroad, this is becoming a genuine problem - starting at the airports, onto the flights, & at the car rental staff on arrival.
Watch the scenes at Luton / Stansted as typical. So, they wanted out of European Human Rights protection????? - They've got it!!
How about.....
1. All Brits to sit an IQ (or GCSE level) behavioural test when booking online, or exiting the UK (after check-in but before security). Scores under 50 = no travel.

2. Every individual adult Brit to lodge a cash deposit of €2,500 on arrival at the area local police station - refundable ONLY on return to the UK via an HMRC application with all travel data. That'll stop a few people who live in the cash economy.

2. Packs of Brits not to exceed 3 in any public venue - golf resorts included.

3. Brits to lose all signals to their mobiles, tablets, etc. on arrival, plus no access to Brit media during their stay.

4. In cases of unacceptable behaviour, the Brit/s are immediately deported or made them wear a Donald Trump mask for the rest of their stay. (Shame is the best weapon)

I wanted to be Home Secretary - but they wouldn't let me.... :wink_smile:[

carvoeiro May 24th 2017 5:50 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by 007Steve (Post 12259718)
In my 25 years experience of Brits Abroad, this is becoming a genuine problem - starting at the airports, onto the flights, & at the car rental staff on arrival.
Watch the scenes at Luton / Stansted as typical. So, they wanted out of European Human Rights protection????? - They've got it!!
How about.....
1. All Brits to sit an IQ (or GCSE level) behavioural test when booking online, or exiting the UK (after check-in but before security). Scores under 50 = no travel.

2. Every individual adult Brit to lodge a cash deposit of €2,500 on arrival at the area local police station - refundable ONLY on return to the UK via an HMRC application with all travel data. That'll stop a few people who live in the cash economy.

2. Packs of Brits not to exceed 3 in any public venue - golf resorts included.

3. Brits to lose all signals to their mobiles, tablets, etc. on arrival, plus no access to Brit media during their stay.

4. In cases of unacceptable behaviour, the Brit/s are immediately deported or made them wear a Donald Trump mask for the rest of their stay. (Shame is the best weapon)

I wanted to be Home Secretary - but they wouldn't let me.... :wink_smile:[

pansy liberal

Sunseeker1st May 26th 2017 9:04 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
We have been coming here since 1984, bought our first place in 1988 and moved here permanently in 2001. During this period I can remember two outstanding incidents.

The first was in Carvoeiro where a couple ordered fish and chips and when the waiter brought them fresh grilled fish and chips I have never heard such in my life as the man ranted that he ordered fish and chips and could the waiter not understand English whilst the poor waiter was positively confused and was telling the man it was fish and chips ... but to no avail as the couple upped and left without paying.

The second incident was in Albufeira where at 12.45pm we encountered 10 to 12 loud, obnoxious, drunk, tattooed all over men (guesstimate age 25-30). At about 1.30 a few decided to go to bed to sober up for the next round whilst the others continued to order more drink and disrupt other patrons lunch whilst one of them vomited all over the place,

In both incidents they were sadly British.

scrubbedexpat142 May 26th 2017 9:14 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
One of my funniest was in a very nice restaurant in Malta when a party of six Brits asked the waitress to explain the menu. She had barely started when one of them said "OK, that's enough of that, we'll have 6 prawn cocktails & 6 rump steaks, well done".

EMR May 26th 2017 9:16 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by Sunseeker1st (Post 12261286)
We have been coming here since 1984, bought our first place in 1988 and moved here permanently in 2001. During this period I can remember two outstanding incidents.

The first was in Carvoeiro where a couple ordered fish and chips and when the waiter brought them fresh grilled fish and chips I have never heard such in my life as the man ranted that he ordered fish and chips and could the waiter not understand English whilst the poor waiter was positively confused and was telling the man it was fish and chips ... but to no avail as the couple upped and left without paying.

The second incident was in Albufeira where at 12.45pm we encountered 10 to 12 loud, obnoxious, drunk, tattooed all over men (guesstimate age 25-30). At about 1.30 a few decided to go to bed to sober up for the next round whilst the others continued to order more drink and disrupt other patrons lunch whilst one of them vomited all over the place,

In both incidents they were sadly British.

What made me cringe were events when the Overseas British store opened near Albufeira.
For months there was a lot of hype and anticipation on the various forums.
There were queues of Brits on opening day, one woman was heard to shout out in delight " they have got Chicken Kiev ".
When a few months later it fell foul of the Portuguese regulations and was closed down the forums were full of posts from indignant Brits, how dare they, it's our store not theirs etc etc.
We are a strange breed with an unhealthy addiction to alcohol when on holiday and who have never really understood that we have left the UK.

Sunseeker1st May 26th 2017 9:34 pm

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:lightbulb: Ooh, thanks for reminding me EMR, must pop in Overseas/Iceland for some Bovril and Branston Pickle and real Worcestershire Sauce for hubby who is American ... there are a few Brit things that are near necessities! ;) I understand a second one is about to open in Portimão.

Ingles May 29th 2017 1:49 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by GeniB (Post 12257015)
I'm talking about being a Brit in Portugal when other Brits behave in an appalling manner

Went to one of our favourite little restaurants last night. It overlooks a now very famous beach. (made even more famous now by that 'blasted' TA site:eek:)

Our lovely waiter was a bit 'off' with us at the beginning of the evening,but eventually told us why. He had been subjected to abuse from a group of English men who had eaten there the night before. They had simple drunk themselves into the by now familiar loud 'stupor' our countrymen are sadly known for.. but not usually in our town.
He was embarrassed as he had had to ask them to 'take it outside' as they were upsetting other diners,some of whom had children with them.He didn't say what they had called him...but we could guess

We felt we had to apologise to him on behalf of our countrymen..but it made me seeth with anger that it should be necessary. I found I was grinding my teeth and wishing I had been there to give them a piece of my mind...
I know I would have done... but would it have been wise? Would you have intervened if you had been there?
All this publicity for our lovely Portugal is wonderful,but not if it brings 'yobs' like this to our beautiful shores. I am still upset by it

Please do not despair , help is on it's way :p

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ad-look-better

scrubbedexpat142 May 29th 2017 1:56 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
The most embarrassing thing is being taken for a British tourist!

GeniB May 29th 2017 8:31 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12261288)
One of my funniest was in a very nice restaurant in Malta when a party of six Brits asked the waitress to explain the menu. She had barely started when one of them said "OK, that's enough of that, we'll have 6 prawn cocktails & 6 rump steaks, well done".

I bet that was my brother. he lives there. married to a Finn he won't learn a word of either language..

GeniB May 29th 2017 8:46 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by Ingles (Post 12262230)
Please do not despair , help is on it's way :p

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ad-look-better

Oh I enjoyed that Ingles..and it is so true.

I have found to date that when we meet up with any Americans. we all end up laughing, because we are dodging Brexit, and they are hiding out from Trump:eek:

carvoeiro May 29th 2017 9:36 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by article
Unless you happen to go somewhere brimming with expats, all British holidaymakers this summer can be expected to be treated with outright pity. We’ll be met with sad glances and bewilderment in lobbies and cafes, seen as the morons who willingly flung themselves into a threshing machine thanks to a displaced sense of global importance. We’ve become the village idiots of the world, seen as doltish and shortsighted and proud, and nobody can quite understand why the hell we’ve done this to ourselves.


From this article


great article - and one of the most meaningful Brexit lines of the year

think i'll get it as a tattoo -next time i visit Benidorm

carvoeiro May 29th 2017 9:48 am

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talking of embarassing Brits did anyone see that spineless idiot may on tonights interview with paxman
Her answer to every challenge about every piece of unsubstantiated drivel in their manifesto was - we intend discussing it later - not a single fact or figure of any kind to support a single thing they claim now - apalling
She actually laughed out loud when she agreed as home secretary she had missed every immigration target - but still said they'd leave it in the manifesto - seventh time lucky i don't think so
That aside she avoided every other question put to her - slime personified
The only positive statement was the old 'no deal is better than a bad deal' waffle -


< nopes nope and nope >

scrubbedexpat142 May 29th 2017 10:06 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
What - Benidorm?

macliam May 29th 2017 10:14 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12262658)
What - Benidorm?

No - Brits! :wink_smile:

007Steve Jul 21st 2018 6:26 pm

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Brit 'tourists' are off for the 2018 season ......
https://www.algarvedailynews.com/new...itish-tourists
This is one aspect of UK secession that can be welcomed. I'd hang signs saying NO BRITS

barlaventoexpert Jul 21st 2018 8:07 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by AliceCaroline (Post 12257073)
I'm not defending the Brits when I say this but my Portuguese language teacher says that the French are by far the rudest tourists. Just her opinion of course :o

I have heard this as well from several local Portuguese sources.

In fact, I had to intervene in a very a very fractious situation in the NOS shop in Lagos last year.

I walked in and a very aggressive Frenchman / wife were giving what-for to the poor assistant (who spoke English but no Portuguese) who was trying to say to him "let me get a colleague in Lisbon who speaks French, on the phone now to help you."

As it got close to explosion time, I turned to the couple in question and asked them, in French, what the problem was.

Suddenly, everything in the shop stopped.

An Inglês who speaks Portuguese AND French!

Turned out they had ordered a Satellite package for their apartment in a closed condominium.

As they vented, I spoke to the NOS guy and got his side of the story.

Turned out that, When the installation technician turned up, the security guard had refused to let him in because the couple did not have authorisation from their condominium to mount an external satellite dish.

As I transmitted this info, the wife looked like she wanted to disappear into the ground.

The gentleman, in question, continued to be a bit aggressive saying that it was NOS responsibility to get approval from the condominium.

I put him right in short order about his duties & rights as an owner in a condominium and then sent them on their way.

Big sigh of relief from all in shop!

Not very pleasant but I have heard similiar stories about French folk from estate agents up here north of Lisbon where we now live.

Nonetheless, us Brits continue to dominate the headlines across Europe & elsewhere about aggressive boozy & uncivil behavour.

toots sweet Jul 21st 2018 8:54 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
Last New Years Eve myself and my OH had booked what we hoped would be a lovely meal surrounded by locals enjoying the evening in a local restaurant.(Silver coast).
We arrived at 8pm to find it full to the brim with Brits and a Dutch couple who we were seated by on the next table.
As the evening wore on the level of noise increased to such an extent that it was impossible to hold a conversation and we both felt very uncomfortable as were the Dutch couple nearby who were shaking their heads in disbelief.
Our countrymen I'm afraid to say yet again made me feel embarrassed to be British .They were walking around taking photos of everyone(not even on their table),bellowing at the top of their voices at tables in another part of the restaurant.
It also ..... me off when they are so smug when speaking to the serving staff regarding wines etc which they probably know nothing about.
These were not teenagers letting off steam,but middle aged men and women.
In the end we left early,before midnight, along with the Dutch couple, and spent midnight outside with the Portuguese who were having a great time without the need to get themselves boozed up for the occasion.
Their behaviour spoilt the evening so much that we have decided never to spend new years eve out again.
The food though was excellent, and the restaurant owners had the patience of saints.:sad_smile:

chislenko Jul 26th 2018 11:21 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
To be fair you can't pigeon hole an entire race based on a proportion of the population. Recently in Cabanas several ex pats and uk holiday makers have been subjected to personal attacks and muggings by locals. Should we therefore all be under the impression that all Portuguese people are muggers?

EMR Jul 27th 2018 5:23 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by chislenko (Post 12539184)
To be fair you can't pigeon hole an entire race based on a proportion of the population. Recently in Cabanas several ex pats and uk holiday makers have been subjected to personal attacks and muggings by locals. Should we therefore all be under the impression that all Portuguese people are muggers?

Several , just how many, , facts not rumours please..

chislenko Jul 27th 2018 10:39 am

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 12539568)
Several , just how many, , facts not rumours please..

Seven confirmed and reported to authorities. One lady hospitalised. You can read her letter in the Portugal Newspaper.

sidgold Jul 27th 2018 8:25 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 
Bad behaviour is bad behaviour regardless of what nationality is involved. Lets face it there are rude inconsiderate people in every country but there are also "thank god" wonderful individuals that you meet on your travels every day. Let's give a mention to the good guys!

Ingles Aug 2nd 2018 9:53 pm

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Hell's teeth !
Briton ‘identified by police for beating wife in front of toddler son’ while on holiday in Albufeira - The Portugal News

EMR Aug 2nd 2018 11:40 pm

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Sadly Nothing unusual about that at all, would the Portugal News, Resident report the abuse that goes on across the country within the Portuguese society.., is it only Brits who get drunk and into arguments with their wives...
Still it helps fill the paper.

GeniB Aug 5th 2018 7:40 pm

Re: The embarrassment factor
 

Originally Posted by sidgold (Post 12539800)
Bad behaviour is bad behaviour regardless of what nationality is involved. Lets face it there are rude inconsiderate people in every country but there are also "thank god" wonderful individuals that you meet on your travels every day. Let's give a mention to the good guys!


It was a post about bad behaviour from British citizens ,and what we would personally do about it ,if we were confronted with it.Or how we might suggest tackling it in the future.

However ,you are right. I am proud of the way so many of my fellow British ex-pats have behaved in regard to helping the worse off Portuguese people. Whether it be in giving to the charity shops, the dogs homes. or to the Bombeiros. This latter group has been helped enormously over the yrs, mainly by the British contributions. Some of our 'British paid for' Fire engines ,ambulances, and defibrillators are up there on the Monchique mountain as I type. Lets all be thankful then to those of us who give ,rather than take . Those of us who help rather than hinder. Lets also think about those 'Good Men' up there fighting to save lives and homes for us.

Sunseeker1st Aug 5th 2018 8:41 pm

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:goodpost:


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