New rules which can deny UK entry to UK citizens. Dual citizen Brits could be refused entry to the UK in major passport rule change

Absolute rubbish article. Nobody can deny UK national entry to UK !!!
Entry can be delayed due to extra checks, but not denied.

What article fails to point, is that this will apply to boarding a plane to UK. Without valid ETA or IE/UK passport or exemption cert, one will be denied plane boarding.
At moment, other documents are accepted by airlines as proof of UK citizenship.
One thing article is correct, IE/UK nationals cant apply for ETA, even with non-UK passport.

Read the uk. gov briefing - https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ngs/cbp-10344/

So here is a typical or not so typical scenario.

Person is born in the UK and has a birth certificate, NI number and served in the British Army and has been issued with a UK passport. Person moves to Canada and acquires Canadian citizenship without the need to relinquish UK citizen.

Person never bothered to renew their UK passport once it had expired and travelled on their Canadian passport and where required applied for visas or other document when visiting other countries. They last flew back to the UK 3 years ago on their Canadian passport.

Now with the new rules they either have to apply for a new UK passport or certificate of entitlement if they wish to VISIT and not remain in the UK.

Now of course they could apply for an ETA but would have to lie on the application to the question of if they hold any other citizenship.

Now think of the costs for a family of 5 who are now dual citizens of both Canada and the UK and the children were born in Canada but eligible for UK citizenship by being born to UK born parents and the UK parents UK passports have now expired?

Does it seem fair that they will now need UK passports so need to shell out the money or is there a consensus that these are the new rules so suck it up and get UK passports even though they just want to VISIT, own property, currently employed in Canada and have no intention of remaining in the UK.

I feel sorry for the airline staff who will no doubt get abuse once they start denying boarding to dual citizens without a UK passport.

Now of course if they did manage to get their feet on UK soil and had in their possession an expired UK passport, NI number and birth certificate then they would be OK apart from being asked how did you get here bearing in mind all British citizens have the right of abode in the UK according to that House of Commons link provided by GrahamF.

Reading the post above, I wonder if children born abroad to a British citizen parent would automatically become British citizens or, just entitled to be if they applied for it?

Life used to be so simple. In 1970 when my Portuguese wife arrived with me at Heathrow, we produced South African marriage certificate and border control officer stamped her passport and noted something along the lines of "married to British citizen". Getting her citizenship just entailed 30 minute visit to local commissioner of oaths to swear Oath of Allgiance and that was it, job done.

Edit, found an answer to my question about children -
Children born abroad to a UK citizen parent do not automatically become British citizens. Instead, they may be eligible to register as British citizens under certain conditions. This registration process is outlined in the British Nationality Act 1981, which provides specific criteria for children born outside the UK to their British parent. These criteria include the child's good character and the parents' residency in the UK at the time of the child's birth. It is essential for parents to understand their child's immigration status and the legal framework governing British citizenship to avoid any issues with unlawful status and to plan for future applications.

www.gov.uk

What baffles me about this whole issue is - people who have emigrated and become citizens of countries such as Australia, Canada and the USA, who already have this rule regarding passports for entry/exit, aren't complaining about their adopted countries taking this approach as part of their immigration policy.
Yet when the UK, constantly vilified for having "uncontrolled migration", introduces the policy, everyone is up in arms!

Because I'm a nobody and if I wrote a strongly worded letter to the UK Govt as I have no UK MP representing me and my local Canadian MP would do the usual I will forward this on to Ottawa NOTHING would change and my emails, letters would end up in the trash can.

My Canadian passport shows place of birth as Chorley GBR, I have a birth certificate, NI, and an expired passport and I only want to visit but No you need a new UK passport or certificate of entitlement. Although I don't receive a UK State pension Canadians have payments frozen yet those living in the US aren't and many have lobbied over the years to have this changed. Why can't this be done? Is the UK trying to save money by not doing this? Payments received have to be included on Canadian tax returns so if not taxed at source in the UK then it is taxed in Canada.

Still deciding if to apply for mine as I only had about 12 years of NI contributions and never kept up voluntarily payments after arriving in Canada.

Bit off topic, but you'd better hurry up and decide, Class 2 is going away very soon for expats. It would pay for itself in no time, so a bit of a no brainer to me in terms of investment.

As for why Canada is frozen in terms of pension uplifts, it's because there's no reciprocal agreement in place (unlike between the US and UK).

Usually automatic, and they'd be British from birth, but it does depend on circumstances including where the British parent was born. Not sure where the bit you've quoted is from, as it doesn't seem to be from the link given, is it AI?

And that's the problem why no reciprocal agreement? They have them with other countries and to be honest it's not like I am in desperate need of the UK state pension to survive (no I'm not rich ) Anyway back on topic I guess if I want to go back for another visit then better start thinking of applying for a UK passport even though I disagree with this implementation. I do realize if you take up citizenship of certain countries you have to renounce usually not enforceable your previous citizenship and I also wonder how many Brits voluntarily renounce their UK citizenship for other reasons?

It came from a Google search, supposedly a quote from UK gov but, maybe AI doctored which is an ever increasing risk. Searching UK Gov, it's contradicted by this publication which says children usually are automatically citizens but, their children aren't. Apply for citizenship if you have a British parent: Who can apply - GOV.UK

Anecdotally I believe its quite rare, most people aren't even aware that you can renounce, it just wouldn't occur to them.
Its not a requirement to renounce when taking Aus citizenship, but I had a colleague in Aus who renounced years ago in order to make it easier to get a top security govt job. He came into contact with hundreds of Brits over the years, and never met anyone else who had renounced, and nor did I. Not even friends of friends through the grapevine.

Ehh? Read what? What is there different from what I said?
Did YOU read it?

On the practical side, airlines are going to need to update their websites to cope with the ETA, ESTA, ETIAS stuff. Because now, I will need to travel to the UK with my UK passport, and travel back with my Portuguese one. So we need to add two passports to a return booking now.

Also, airlines are funny about the name exactly matching the passport. My original name is on my British passport, but my Portuguese is slightly different as I adopted my wife's family name along with mine when we married in Brazil in the early 2000s (so we both match). So I would need to be able to add two slightly different names to booking. Either that, or update my UK passport again for 130 quid, and lose the 8 remaining years on it.

Both my kids have UK passports (as well as Brazil and Portugal). Couple of years ago when we went to UK, my daughter's UK one had expired, so she flew on her Brazil one and we took the expired UK one with us to show on entry, just in case she had any issues at immigration (she didn't, the guy said he'd take the UK one and as he was satisfied she was Briish, he didn't stamp any limit on her Brazil passport). We could not do this now and will need to make sure they maintain British passports in case they need to enter UK at short notice. Or maybe go in via Ireland (since the issue is not the legality of entering the UK, merely the difficulty of getting an airline to take us).